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harem.king

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...Kinu is not Savin's NPC. The Observer made Kiyoko and Kinu.

Kinu is like those Princess Maker games, in that the player's choices determine how she turns out.

And there's no parent/child incest content because of Patreon rules. Don't complain to the devs for folowing the guidelines of the site they use to finance themselves with.

Complain to Patreon.
Much of what you said is wrong. (tobs did write her though)

Savin wrote a father/daughter incest NPC in CoC1. The daughter of Helia, which he gave the punny codename "Helspawn".
People asked him to finish that character. As most of it was WIP. This infuriated him because he hates being told to finish what he started.
Which is where Kinu comes into play.

Kinu was explicitly designed as "a spite project and a salt mine" (dev words, not mine). Designed to troll helspawn fans.
In addition to explicit dev quotes. we also have the design document which again explicitly says the character exists to troll helspawn fans. And written fully with this singular purpose 2 years before the first release of coc2 according to her writer.
It has absolutely nothing to do with Patreon rules.

And aside from trolling helspawn fans, it also pissed off many people who didn't want incest, too.
There was plenty of splash damage there.

You are lured into caring about a character as your virtual child. Then it forces a timeskip on you. During the timeskip her mom abuses her, they both turn racist against you, your daughter hates you and looks down on you, and they even give her an arranged marriage, which she is all for and is angry at you for interfering in.
and then your MC becomes emasculated as they put words in his mouth too.

I mean, sure, the Helspawn incest fans would have been upset at being cucked.
Everyone else also didn't like it either.
Which means they succeeded too well, since their goal is explicitly trolling. They just trolled way more people then they initially intended.

tobs kinu was a spite project and a salt mine.png


Here you see tobs stating that 2 years before the game's first release she was already planned as a spite project and salt mine.
 
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Mav3rick88

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Fucking pathetic lmao this guy wasted hours of his life to get a minute or two of annoyance at most. Which damn player would care enough to be pissed enough for him to 'mine salt' :ROFLMAO: Just play another game lol clown devs
I mean these are the same devs who wrote the Cat Haram with some stand in minotaur to represent a forum poster they didn’t like to cuck him, even though this is pointless because he gets a Cat Haram still for his actual character; not really the sharpest tools in the shed.
 

ChubbyFatBoy

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Fucking pathetic lmao this guy wasted hours of his life to get a minute or two of annoyance at most. Which damn player would care enough to be pissed enough for him to 'mine salt' :ROFLMAO: Just play another game lol clown devs
Well.... to be honest. Despite my salt laced contributions to the overall shit fest that is this glorious thread. Without a lick of regret as I found it fun. With all the faults you can find with the guy and his writing. And as weird as it is for him to be mad that long. To then write a whole ass story with the intention that he had. Which might I add, requires a personal level of salt that nobody here can rival..... he did get what he set out to get.

That shit was a premium salt mine. I personally never did the quest. So it really wasn't my shit to fling. But having gone through a fair bit of this thread. I can't lie and say that he didn't get some mileage out of it.
 
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Yeppers34

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Well.... to be honest. Despite my salt laced contributions to the overall shit fest that is this glorious thread. Without a lick of regret as I found it fun. With all the faults you can find with the guy and his writing. And as weird as it is for him to be mad that long. To then write a whole ass story with the intention that he had. Which might I add, requires a personal level of salt that nobody here can rival..... he did get what he set out to get.

That shit was a premium salt mine. I personally never did the quest. So it really wasn't my shit to fling. But having gone through a fair bit of this thread. I can't lie and say that he didn't get some mileage out of it.
Oh yeah dude definitely got his daily sodium intake for the next 30 years it's just shame that everything else he wrote was dog water
 

Titan king

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I find it funny because I couldn't care less just skipped that shit and tried some other content, what he got is just people taking a few minutes out of their day to hate on the shit he worked hard to create lol real loser
 

Tsubuhaza

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Can you give me the latest update link, i don't know which one
Sorry, I was a bit busy. Just get the latest release and a standalone flash player, you'll be good to go.

Well.... to be honest. Despite my salt laced contributions to the overall shit fest that is this glorious thread. Without a lick of regret as I found it fun. With all the faults you can find with the guy and his writing. And as weird as it is for him to be mad that long. To then write a whole ass story with the intention that he had. Which might I add, requires a personal level of salt that nobody here can rival..... he did get what he set out to get.

That shit was a premium salt mine. I personally never did the quest. So it really wasn't my shit to fling. But having gone through a fair bit of this thread. I can't lie and say that he didn't get some mileage out of it.
You found it kinda funny, I found it kinda sad.
The dreams in which she's dying are the best I've ever had.

I'd say it feels more of a wasted chance blown on ego. Like the people who wanted incest on the first game are likely not even interested the game anymore, let alone the sequel. I don't think it would've been great writing without the spite either (it's Tobs after all, weeborethesaurus rex) but I generally feel a glass of hot water is better than a glass of hot water with salt.

But I think I've already given my two cents on that.
 
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Yeppers34

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The kinu situation has been talked to death but to throw my two cents in tobs could have just taken the high road and wrote an actual good story for Kinu without the incest and be done with it, and when the people start crying for incest they could just say "sorry guys patreon said no we aren't allowed to do that here" and while sure there still might be people whining about it, i feel if they did this it would have mitigated alot of the outrage.
 

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The kinu situation has been talked to death but to throw my two cents in tobs could have just taken the high road and wrote an actual good story for Kinu without the incest and be done with it, and when the people start crying for incest they could just say "sorry guys patreon said no we aren't allowed to do that here" and while sure there still might be people whining about it, i feel if they did this it would have mitigated alot of the outrage.
It's not even the first time he's done this. Cassidy was a NPC in the dead Fall of Eden who was another project built off pure spite from the Helspawn debacle. Her whole backstory is being the grand-daughter of Helspawn who ran away from home because the PC wanted to fuck her, and her whole character revolves around not wanting to get into a relationship with you. The obsession Tobs have with this thing that didn't even involve him is pretty fucking insane.
 

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It's not even the first time he's done this. Cassidy was a NPC in the dead Fall of Eden who was another project built off pure spite from the Helspawn debacle. Her whole backstory is being the grand-daughter of Helspawn who ran away from home because the PC wanted to fuck her, and her whole character revolves around not wanting to get into a relationship with you. The obsession Tobs have with this thing that didn't even involve him is pretty fucking insane.
Well shit didn't know that.. guess the dude is just a lost cause
 
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YouShallNotLol

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Y'all think we'll ever get the chance to tell Kas to lose the cock if we romance her?
We already kinda have her dickless, in her Calise form.

It's not even the first time he's done this. Cassidy was a NPC in the dead Fall of Eden who was another project built off pure spite from the Helspawn debacle. Her whole backstory is being the grand-daughter of Helspawn who ran away from home because the PC wanted to fuck her, and her whole character revolves around not wanting to get into a relationship with you. The obsession Tobs have with this thing that didn't even involve him is pretty fucking insane.
Oh Wow. I am glad that I never played past FoE's prologue. :HideThePain:
 

Farhan124

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really happy they removed the stats softlock from the game.
was just trying to speedrun coc1 again but statlock is hindering the performance.(they stop at 100)
granted coc1 was flash, but it is still nice to edit the shit out of stats and abilities in coc2.
the problem I ever had with editing was when you fight yourself in the mirror battle ( Doppelganger wouldn't die)
and when I level up I have to relearn powers, but other than that it's great.
 
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I'll admit the cow princess is...kinda meh for me, IDK maybe this update will make me care for her, haven't played it yet, anyway wanted to ask:

The supossed bug-fix to make AttackPower deal more damage now is game-changing? any Warrior/Thief among us who can share how this changed your battle prowress...if at all?
 

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It's not even the first time he's done this. Cassidy was a NPC in the dead Fall of Eden who was another project built off pure spite from the Helspawn debacle. Her whole backstory is being the grand-daughter of Helspawn who ran away from home because the PC wanted to fuck her, and her whole character revolves around not wanting to get into a relationship with you. The obsession Tobs have with this thing that didn't even involve him is pretty fucking insane.
Wow.. yikes
 

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Python Script to apply the Expanded Companion Limit to (hopefully) any version of the game
View attachment 4339219

To run place in the games App directory (under resources) and execute with python.
time to carve this up into some kind of mod framework ... if my autistic desires and time allow it.

really happy they removed the stats softlock from the game.
was just trying to speedrun coc1 again but statlock is hindering the performance.(they stop at 100)
granted coc1 was flash, but it is still nice to edit the shit out of stats and abilities in coc2.
the problem I ever had with editing was when you fight yourself in the mirror battle ( Doppelganger wouldn't die)
and when I level up I have to relearn powers, but other than that it's great.
the mirror battle is the one time they will be like oh you like to cheat? heres all your cheats used agenst you.
 
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