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GS21

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Yeah, writers disappearing was a major issue, especially earlier in development. And leaving unfinished business NEVER ends well.

I plan on sticking around (even if I’ve been effectively shamed into taking a self-imposed sabbatical from the Discord) for the foreseeable future, assuming my kids don’t get me too busy. But because there’s that risk, I make sure to button up all my shit just in case, because I will NOT be the next Bubblelord.
You're always welcome here. We've still got 2-5 more years of beating the dead proverbial horse so we're not going anywhere either.
There's this bit that could easily be exploited about Gweyr, that her isolation is about self inflicted punishment, in a way, you must reconcile, and this is the part I'm not sure anyone on that team would be willing to explore because they made her too powerful while at the same time, not strong enough to end Tollus and the other guy, that Gweyr actually feels guilty about what she did, despite understanding that her actions were, in context, necessary

The idea to exploit then both her isolation and this element of self hatred would be apt to add a third element in order to push her fall, at the moment, she's been purging her murders through the hunt of any cultist she can find, despite understanding that her actions are not really stalling Tollus

Think about it, the one thing she didn't give up was her relationship with Garth, now, feeling after so long that someone wants her, desires her, sees her as a woman and worthy companion, imagine the second she gives in, all her suppressed passion finally free and then, she wakes up at the next day and all that guilt is there, the one thing that was still pure forever tainted

The thing is that writing something like that takes a lot, unlike "hehe the gyaru blonde guy and the hobo tag teamed the childhood friend and now cuck-kun is crying while fapping". At the end of the day a lot of ntr authors are doing a Savin and pushing short, fast paced stuff that they know will sell, or they TOBS their way around a long ass ntr light novel that goes nowhere because they got tired midway, and let's not talk about the lifetime movie approach nor the horrors of the female goonerspace
Never ceases to amaze me how easily you can swap between eloquent character breakdowns and outright schizo ramblings. Never change (y)
But yeah, it would take quite the writing chops to tackle this idea. You know, actually making a character interesting. I really hope I'm wrong but I cannot recall a single character in this game with actual substance behind them. Not even one. They're all flat and one-dimensional, the few with actual depth having their potential squandered halfway through. Whether it's Cait being reduced to comedic relief for some reason or Brint being too "cool" to have any well... character.
Even Brienne's introduction. For as much as I like her I will never understand why the whole thing was handled the way it was. At the climax the plot just plummets to the floor and you end up with a new girlfriend that instantly loves your character unconditionally with 0 buildup or reason.
The same could very well be said to any character in the game, the whole "relationship" mechanic is sticking it in them one time or spamming through their talk dialogue.
You no longer have to actually work up to the relationship and thus don't feel any connection or much satisfaction from the result. I said it a million times already probably but even the first game, as imperfect as it was, didn't suffer from this issue.
 
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I like the Xianxia one for the opposite reason. Getting ludicrously powerful is hilarious in how it just folds the vanilla game in two.
Yeah, /hgg/ makes you work a bit to get busted power. If you want to cast quake into eruption and hit people with 5 bleed+stun rolls, you'll be at it a while. It's not harder than the base game on Normal difficulty though.
Unless you pick to play as younger than default. That makes you a bit squishy.
 

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Anyway boys I've been meaning to ask for no reason in particular what lightweight changes you'd make to improve the game if you could. Small stuff you wish was implemented or QoL changes that for some reason have not been implemented yet. The small stuff that could make a difference, if you will.
 
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I've been meaning to ask for no reason in particular what lightweight changes you'd make to improve the game if you could. Small stuff you wish was implemented or QoL changes that for some reason have not been implemented yet. The small stuff that could make a difference, if you will.
I'm not sure how small this is but perhaps a rebalance to combat so it takes less time to fight.

More realistically, more storage space. Lots more storage space. More inventory space would be nice, having to stop and manage stuff because my hoarding ass automatically picked up a suspiciously colored leaf is annoying. More items stacking and higher stack limits as well. Last I recall some drops like the cultist charms don't stack and so any area with the cultists just overloads any inventory space. Realism be damned, it's an RPG not a survival horror.
 

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Wow the new update is so bad I don't even want to download it. Who asked for this? I wish there was a way to prevent this change through the code haven't been this annoyed by an update since changing Berwyn to a non-companion. The very few corruption choices we have now got one less. I also think Savin is lying never seen anyone pick corrupting the hive just to remove Liaden. Been on multiple forums for years related to CoC 2 and I know a lot of people don't like her but never heard of anyone just corrupting the hive to get rid of her.

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What a complete waste of time this update was who was complaining that ' Azzy’s recruitment is so obtuse' never heard that complaint before. I am sorry but every reason given for this update seems like a complete lie. Is Savin shitting bricks over Patreon threatening his revenue stream or something? Why do such a troublesome change that nobody asked for?
 

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Anyway boys I've been meaning to ask for no reason in particular what lightweight changes you'd make to improve the game if you could. Small stuff you wish was implemented or QoL changes that for some reason have not been implemented yet. The small stuff that could make a difference, if you will.
It's a small thing in theory, but might as well be Mission Impossible. What I want implemented is a universal word count cap. Folks should be forced to have to use their limited words wisely. With extras given when absolutely necessary. My biggest complaint for this game has remained the same. It ain't the futa stuff, it ain't cuck shit, and it ain't the lack of power fantasy. Now those would probably be higher on the list. If I wasn't already selective with the content I go for, just to limit the issue. Which is the fact that reading became a chore too often.

Even bad or boring content can be fine. When it ain't a extra couple pages too long. There's just too much unnecessary bloat in this game. So that is my QoL change.

When they reaching for the keyboard to type more.
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I need some intervention.
 

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What I want implemented is a universal word count cap. Folks should be forced to have to use their limited words wisely.
To me, it's a game. The player should have input as often as possible. Sex scenes would get a bit rote by that system, though, so they get an extended breadth.
If there's no decision to be made, it can't be expected someone's going to read something so long they have to scroll. God save us all. America literally gave up on literacy as a notion and created an alternative called "critical literacy" that is as uncritical on the thinking and comprehension side as can be. This is the end times. We're barreling into the abyss.
But the fact remains
It's a game, not a book. Your agency and ability to be a part of what's going on is crucial.
Yet, I've no idea what you actually mean. Everyone has a different idea of how many words is too many.
 

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Savin probably: "Ok guys we need corruption content any takers? Great! Love the enthusiasm but we need it to be all futa and cuckold stuff. Wait what do you mean you're not into that? Where are you all going?"
Savin's default excuse is always to claim a bunch of nebulous totally real and not made up people agree with him. Granted I can believe he lost a lot of writers who expressed a desire to write corruption, I just have to wonder why they left. Probably for the reason you said.
Didn't he say somewhat recently that he expects that most of the people doing the romance Kassyra thing are doing it to redeem her and turn her good rather than doing it for an actual corruption route?
Considering that dumping Azzy and Liaden into the Bimbo honey and leaving the Hive corrupt is the only really corrupt or evil thing that the Champ can do it wouldn't surprise me if writers wanting to do Corruption stuff were just being slapped down for going "too far" or it being a "power fantasy" for the Champ to actually corrupt people.
 
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Posted in the wrong thread, it's fucking insane that the fans of the game are like this. The game is called CORRUPTION OF CHAMPIONS II it's the sequel tot he hit game CORRUPTION OF CHAMPIONS where you could do things like CORRUPT people.
I get the spirit of what they're saying, but that isn't everyone's complaint. Also at the risk of getting too close to topics I'd rather not, Liaden's sexability is tied to selected pronouns instead of player appearance or femineity/masculinity score which implies she's more pansexual than lesbian.

Read the death defying princess build a harem manga, there's like ten chapters out and the mc cucks and then seduces her own little sister at some point, and yet she wonders why some people might hate her.
wut

This, I've been saying since forever that it makes no sense to have a fortress with an army of wives and not store your things there, why I'm still asking Garth for space?, I have space, what I don't have is a dev willing to let me hoard stuff
As baroness I reserve the right to deforest the area and assimilate the hive's land to build more vaults and storage rooms. My wayfort should looks like a hoarder's asshole prolapsed. And don't worry purple druid elf lady, I can repopulate the forest by getting railed by the deer futa. And as an added bonus create deer babes to inherit the earth. Everyone wins. But mostly me and Orlaith.

I would let all in the capable hands of TOBs, thus clogging the internet forever and making people go outside, including me
That is diabolical. You are truly evil.

Didn't he say somewhat recently that he expects that most of the people doing the romance Kassyra thing are doing it to redeem her and turn her good rather than doing it for an actual corruption route?
Savin, once again, severely underestimates the amount of people who see a demonic waifu and decide to become her Dark PogChampion. Savin could've just made his own IP but that apparently didn't work before which is telling.

To quote my favorite passage: " 'I can fix her.' Yeah? Well I can accept her as she is. You don't like the murder? Grow up. The atrocities are a part of her, and I've decided they're funny."
 

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Savin, once again, severely underestimates the amount of people who see a demonic waifu and decide to become her Dark PogChampion. Savin could've just made his own IP but that apparently didn't work before which is telling.

To quote my favorite passage: " 'I can fix her.' Yeah? Well I can accept her as she is. You don't like the murder? Grow up. The atrocities are a part of her, and I've decided they're funny."
Is it truly love if you're not willing to burn down a few orphanages for her? :KEK:
 

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There are categories in Ntr, I remember someone posting the various permutations of Ntr. But goddammit if they never explore the story or characters going through it. I don't read or watch Ntr. Rocket Monkey is just has great milf designs but fuck I can't tolerate tht shit. Can never understand it.
I think the worst part is that ntr is usually made by super talented people. Ankoman is not terrible but his his art is just kinda dehumanizing. Not to mention his piss poor story, people are there to just fap and leave. But me personally I can't engage with that type of stuff, I know it's abit hypocritcal for me to say this, but I don't like ntr all that much. Atleast not reading it, for the champ and corruption It should be empowering while showing that you are kinda an amoral/moral-less monster that is potentially worst than the enemies you fight. Don't get me wrong though. It's not like I want all my porn to make sense, but if you craft a ntr sceario where people are happily married and some tan/shota/ugly bastard is able to ruin that then it has to make sense. It should pretty much NEVER end with the woman falling for the dude unless she is drugged out of her mind. It has to be something she is against and hates and the reveal that she has been unfaithful could be the straw that breaks the camel's back. Or the dude can figure out what the cucker did and beat the crap out of him/kill him. No normal guy is going to take that type of shit sitting down, even if he has a gang supporting him. I've seen more than enough guys murder the guy his wife was cheating on and murder her too. It's a nasty slippery slope.

Gweyr could work well in the scenario because of how long she's been away from her husband and children. That doesn't mean she's stupid so the champ would have to provide evidence that she has been forgotten and he's the only one she should be fighting for, the only one who accepts her for who she is and wouldn't abandon her. This could be done by using Solvieg I think her name is. Garth's orc daughter.
/hgg/ and Xianxia are both build off of that one, and that was abandoned a very long time ago. You should check out the modern state of CoC1 mods.
I haven't played it for a long, long time. I know it was discontinued but I didn't know people were working off the base of it. That's nice.
Savin probably: "Ok guys we need corruption content any takers? Great! Love the enthusiasm but we need it to be all futa and cuckold stuff. Wait what do you mean you're not into that? Where are you all going?"
Savin's default excuse is always to claim a bunch of nebulous totally real and not made up people agree with him. Granted I can believe he lost a lot of writers who expressed a desire to write corruption, I just have to wonder why they left. Probably for the reason you said.
I honestly felt there were corruption writers but they eiether left or didn't write because they weren't going to be paid for their effort. Still it's absolutely retarded that he just wouldn't pay people to put in that content. I'm going to jump off the horse that it was due to bullying or some shit, but if it was he is hopelessly retarded. The game is gravely lacking in what it promised and if people who came to the game for what the original offered were the big payers you know for damn sure it would be done or coc2 would lose too much money to keep going.
There's this bit that could easily be exploited about Gweyr, that her isolation is about self inflicted punishment, in a way, you must reconcile, and this is the part I'm not sure anyone on that team would be willing to explore because they made her too powerful while at the same time, not strong enough to end Tollus and the other guy, that Gweyr actually feels guilty about what she did, despite understanding that her actions were, in context, necessary

The idea to exploit then both her isolation and this element of self hatred would be apt to add a third element in order to push her fall, at the moment, she's been purging her murders through the hunt of any cultist she can find, despite understanding that her actions are not really stalling Tollus

Think about it, the one thing she didn't give up was her relationship with Garth, now, feeling after so long that someone wants her, desires her, sees her as a woman and worthy companion, imagine the second she gives in, all her suppressed passion finally free and then, she wakes up at the next day and all that guilt is there, the one thing that was still pure forever tainted

The thing is that writing something like that takes a lot, unlike "hehe the gyaru blonde guy and the hobo tag teamed the childhood friend and now cuck-kun is crying while fapping". At the end of the day a lot of ntr authors are doing a Savin and pushing short, fast paced stuff that they know will sell, or they TOBS their way around a long ass ntr light novel that goes nowhere because they got tired midway, and let's not talk about the lifetime movie approach nor the horrors of the female goonerspace
I felt that Gweyr was powerful but not crazy strong. She did just slaughter her way through some defenseless kids to get to Tollus and His goon(er). Like I said in my earlier response is that her relationship with garth is the only thing keeping her for cheating and such. But corruption works in a twisted way, preying on your weakness and bring hidden desires to light. You just need to break her faith in garth and the idea that there is a world waiting for her outside of this. Even though she is exiled, she still keeps the faith that her actions are protecting her children and garth. What we need to do is twist her peception and makie her realize the only person who is truly beating back the cult and truly needs her companionship is the champion. Garth doesn't give a damn about her and only talks about her with some somber tale like his embarassed of her. But the champion knows she did what was needed, the town will never understand or appreciate what she sacrificed for them. But He would, the only man willing to give company to her anyway. A man who looks at her like a woman and not like a heartless murderer. Of course, she feels bad about Garth, even if he had a good reason; it still feels like shit that he abandoned her. He never once even tried to find her or send someone to find her. Now she's heard he slept with some orc bitch and is watching over the child, too?

Type shit when it comes to the first staged of corruption. Though admittedly in coc 1 it was alot more forceful and rapey but when confronted with someone, you can't just break and overpower like Whitney, then you change tactics to make them see your point of view. Corruption is fucking god-tier when it is done right because of how personal it is. I think the story would be interesting for how much the champion changes through the corruption, that they can break alliances and lose party members. Who may or may not stand against them later on in the story. But in exchange, they can gain corrupt/people companions who agree with their views or both are using one another to their own ends. Reminds me how Baldur's Gate 3 crapped the bed and punished you for siding with goblins, making you lose two party members permanently with no exculsive evil companions to replace them. So you are out of two people for the rest of the game. Too many rp games try to sell the "Evil doesn't pay" shit when it ABSOLUTELY does. Not that I want to be a politician or anything, I just want to feel the empowerment of playing a evil character and having a evil playthrough. Not some murderhobo bs that is the Durge.



Didn't he say somewhat recently that he expects that most of the people doing the romance Kassyra thing are doing it to redeem her and turn her good rather than doing it for an actual corruption route?
Considering that dumping Azzy and Liaden into the Bimbo honey and leaving the Hive corrupt is the only really corrupt or evil thing that the Champ can do, it wouldn't surprise me if writers wanting to do Corruption stuff were just being slapped down for going "too far" or it being a "power fantasy" for the Champ to actually corrupt people.
Bruh, just because the majority may or may not like something more doesn't mean you should use that as an excuse to remove shit. I don't want to change Kassyra for the better. I want to become stronger than her and truly make her my woman. Someone to rule by my side, not the other way around. Not to mention that power-fantasy shit is a stupid excuse to not give the player agency and real choices to affect the story or their little snowflakes. Of course, the corruption is empowering, but power fantasy would imply that you are an unstoppable force of nature, which you aren't. It's like tapping into the dark side of the force, it gives you power but takes in equal measure. It's just that corruption choices would alter the story too much(Which is a good thing for a game to have two paths you can take that changes how the plot goes).
 

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I felt that Gweyr was powerful but not crazy strong. She did just slaughter her way through some defenseless kids to get to Tollus and His goon(er). Like I said in my earlier response is that her relationship with garth is the only thing keeping her for cheating and such. But corruption works in a twisted way, preying on your weakness and bring hidden desires to light. You just need to break her faith in garth and the idea that there is a world waiting for her outside of this. Even though she is exiled, she still keeps the faith that her actions are protecting her children and garth. What we need to do is twist her peception and makie her realize the only person who is truly beating back the cult and truly needs her companionship is the champion. Garth doesn't give a damn about her and only talks about her with some somber tale like his embarassed of her. But the champion knows she did what was needed, the town will never understand or appreciate what she sacrificed for them. But He would, the only man willing to give company to her anyway. A man who looks at her like a woman and not like a heartless murderer. Of course, she feels bad about Garth, even if he had a good reason; it still feels like shit that he abandoned her. He never once even tried to find her or send someone to find her. Now she's heard he slept with some orc bitch and is watching over the child, too?
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TESHAY WAS ABLE TO MAKE THIS IN A FORUM. WITH A BUNCH OF TOBS!!!!!
 

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Posted in the wrong thread, it's fucking insane that the fans of the game are like this. The game is called CORRUPTION OF CHAMPIONS II it's the sequel tot he hit game CORRUPTION OF CHAMPIONS where you could do things like CORRUPT people.
There's rape, there's murder, there's literal conversion/corruption of people into demons who want to rape and murder. Women being both victim and perpetrator of actions. All types of other horrible, violent, and sexy shit going on. In a world where like 99% of the population is just sucking and fucking anything. Chicks with dicks, men with clits, just all types of stuff. But THIS! No, no, no, no. THIS is a step too far! Wanting access to a character that was forcefully inserted in an unneeded way. And with a moronic decision to only make her swing one way. That can already be bypassed in the most modern day bullshit way.

PLEASE tell me someone called them out? If there's one thing that rustles my jimmies something fierce. Is when people say dumb shit and nobody addresses it. Oh man.... when I find stuff like that, especially years later. It hurts mah soul.
 

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Anyway boys I've been meaning to ask for no reason in particular what lightweight changes you'd make to improve the game if you could. Small stuff you wish was implemented or QoL changes that for some reason have not been implemented yet. The small stuff that could make a difference, if you will.
  1. Not sure if this one is lightweight. I saw on their forum several times that implementing hand-to-hand is difficult. Is it?
  2. I yet have to touch the mod so I don't know if it's there, but maybe a chest at the wayfort linked to Garth's. Or something like that somewhere - it's not like there isn't a person who can make a bag of holding etc.
  3. I know it will be niche, but... if female Champ uses the ghostlight in first sex scene with Kiyoko, it would be great if at least it's acknowledged on this time. Something like "Hey, I don't have a real dick, does this work to share essence?" "My senses tell me it is the real deal. It might have something to do with my predicament." It's very cringe the way it was left.
  4. Option to replace the word "Corruption" in the main menu.
 

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There's rape, there's murder, there's literal conversion/corruption of people into demons who want to rape and murder. Women being both victim and perpetrator of actions. All types of other horrible, violent, and sexy shit going on. In a world where like 99% of the population is just sucking and fucking anything. Chicks with dicks, men with clits, just all types of stuff. But THIS! No, no, no, no. THIS is a step too far! Wanting access to a character that was forcefully inserted in an unneeded way. And with a moronic decision to only make her swing one way. That can already be bypassed in the most modern day bullshit way.

PLEASE tell me someone called them out? If there's one thing that rustles my jimmies something fierce. Is when people say dumb shit and nobody addresses it. Oh man.... when I find stuff like that, especially years later. It hurts mah soul.
I had fun with that comment, yeah. It's always been a symptom of what's wrong with the dev team that only select NPCs get to have sexual preferences.
 
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  1. Not sure if this one is lightweight. I saw on their forum several times that implementing hand-to-hand is difficult. Is it?
  2. I yet have to touch the mod so I don't know if it's there, but maybe a chest at the wayfort linked to Garth's. Or something like that somewhere - it's not like there isn't a person who can make a bag of holding etc.
  3. I know it will be niche, but... if female Champ uses the ghostlight in first sex scene with Kiyoko, it would be great if at least it's acknowledged on this time. Something like "Hey, I don't have a real dick, does this work to share essence?" "My senses tell me it is the real deal. It might have something to do with my predicament." It's very cringe the way it was left.
  4. Option to replace the word "Corruption" in the main menu.
Not sure what you mean by hand-to-hand. You mean like unarmed combat?
And yeah there's more chests.
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