VN Ren'Py Cosy Cafe [v0.11] [Cosy Creator]

[MWPA78]

So in other words, a threesome should really only be two simultaneous twosomes according to your standards. That's, eh, an "interesting" take on it, I suppose... I mean, you do you...

-Mal

That would be correct, yes.

Think it was said a while ago: Threesomes overrated. Only one dick. Better have each of them individually. Too many holes already as is.

 

[MalLiz]

That would be correct, yes.

Think it was said a while ago: Threesomes overrated. Only one dick. Better have each of them individually. Too many holes already as is.

...So then the prospect of simply pleasing one's partner has no appeal to you, I take it?

And yes, okay, I get that we are after all talking about a bunch of pixels on a screen here, but still... That is a truly depressing point of view, I have to say. Maybe I am just a bit more immersed in the characters and story of the game than you are, and you just want a quick fap or the like. Which, you know, is totally fine in and of itself.

But I for one like to see the girls enjoying themselves (and each other) during their intimate moments with the MC. By all means, make the scenes focus largely on him, but if the girls want to have some fun with touching or kissing one another... Well, why would that really be such a "horrible" thing? They definitely aren't cheating after all, since it all involves the MC and therefore it simply can't count as cheating. And they certainly aren't being dishonest, sneaky or even just plain mean spirited about it, either.

So the perception that two girls focussing entirely on the MC is perfectly fine, but them so much as teasingly kissing one another, even if done only to arouse the MC further, somehow makes them "basic bitches..." I don't think I can really understand the reasoning there, to be honest.

-Mal

 

[Konrad Simon]

I love how different we all are! I can't conceive of not liking threesomes. Only thing better than two girls is two slave girls. Only managed a scene like that twice in my life, and I'm almost 70, but oh the happy memories!

As for if and to what degree there is sensual or sexual contact between members of the harem, well, ideally, there is exactly as much the dominant permits and no more. For me, the idea of hearing, "Master, may I play with your other slave when you aren't around?" is just hot, and I'm one of those who doesn't get off on girl-girl scenes. But the implied control in being asked for permission is sexy as hell.

But in this, too, I trust the dev.

 

[wiseold6996]

...So then the prospect of simply pleasing one's partner has no appeal to you, I take it?

And yes, okay, I get that we are after all talking about a bunch of pixels on a screen here, but still... That is a truly depressing point of view, I have to say. Maybe I am just a bit more immersed in the characters and story of the game than you are, and you just want a quick fap or the like. Which, you know, is totally fine in and of itself.

But I for one like to see the girls enjoying themselves (and each other) during their intimate moments with the MC. By all means, make the scenes focus largely on him, but if the girls want to have some fun with touching or kissing one another... Well, why would that really be such a "horrible" thing? They definitely aren't cheating after all, since it all involves the MC and therefore it simply can't count as cheating. And they certainly aren't being dishonest, sneaky or even just plain mean spirited about it, either.

So the perception that two girls focussing entirely on the MC is perfectly fine, but them so much as teasingly kissing one another, even if done only to arouse the MC further, somehow makes them "basic bitches..." I don't think I can really understand the reasoning there, to be honest.

-Mal

It would works if mc asks them to do it or the girls asks for his permission. Like we can order one of the girls to cum and spit swapping with another girl.
Or couple of girls can ask for permission to engage in some light foreplay to entertain the mc.

I love how different we all are! I can't conceive of not liking threesomes. Only thing better than two girls is two slave girls. Only managed a scene like that twice in my life, and I'm almost 70, but oh the happy memories!

As for if and to what degree there is sensual or sexual contact between members of the harem, well, ideally, there is exactly as much the dominant permits and no more. For me, the idea of hearing, "Master, may I play with your other slave when you aren't around?" is just hot, and I'm one of those who doesn't get off on girl-girl scenes. But the implied control in being asked for permission is sexy as hell.

But in this, too, I trust the dev.

70? Fucking hell...

 

[wiseold6996]

Yes. Optional, as in it won't even happen if you choose no. And at the moment I only have a single scene planned that would actually involve it anyway, so it's not gonna be a big thing.


This, with the exception of maledom and bdsm stuff (which won't get super hardcore) - they're core themes so won't be optional.

I wonder what non- vanilla fetish will added more which are going to optional. I think so far only footjob and lesbian scenes are added. Maybe hardcore maledom and bdsm?

 

[torpedogoat]

A harem is imo when a man has multiple "monogamous" relationships at the same time while being honest about it. If one of the girls gets the hots for one of the other girls - thats cheating!

A harem in the original sense is the section of a Muslim house that is reserved for the exclusive use by females and young boys. Typically the wife, daughters, young sons and potentially some unmarried aunts or similar. Since in some countries rich or high status men could and still can have several wives, this special case is what we tend to think of as a harem in the West. (Also historically there could be slave wives in addition to regular wives, and these were also in the harem.)

Under a strict etymological interpretation, "harem" doesn't imply polygamy, and implies that intimacies are supposed to occur only between the husband and one wife at a time, but never between wives and never in the presence of more than one wife.

However, the idea of a harem in the Western world always involves numerous wives, and typically also slave wives and eunuchs, and it often involves lesbian relations between wives. (In fact, while these may never have been the standard case, it would be very surprising if they never occurred under such conditions, regardless of their legality in Islam.)

 

[Konrad Simon]

Polygamy is okay, but polyamory is just WRONG.

It is evil to make a word that is half Greek and half Latin. It should polyphelia or multiamory.

I saw that on Television.

:-Fe

 

[PaxHadrian17]

Don't think anyone would see anything lesbian in that scene tbh. They were both solely desiring the MC.

A harem is imo when a man has multiple "monogamous" relationships at the same time while being honest about it. If one of the girls gets the hots for one of the other girls - thats cheating!

If in the scene you showed above Akatsuki and Victoria would have started to get intimate with each other, my perception of them would have changed from incredibly loyal desirable girls to bog-standard basic bitches on an EDM festival. The more I think about it, the less I like it. Its just such a big difference in a girl. It says so much about her nature.

So, you have a different opinion and a different sense of what a harem is than I do.

That is fine, as I said:

We each have different tastes and no one person's tastes are better/worse than another's.

I see the harem as a safe place for the women to learn about the MC, sex and what they like/dislike.

I don't have a problem with some of the women, encouraged by the MC or lost in the passion of the moment with the MC, kissing or stroking the other woman in the threesome, for example.

I disagree with Victoria and Akatsuki becoming 'bog standard basic bitches' if they start to kiss each other while the MC fingerbangs both of them, teasing them and driving them crazy before he finally allows them to have their orgasms.

A one size fits all definition does not, IMO, fit all AVNs nor does it fit all stories.

I see you as having a fairly narrow world-view/perspective on this but, that is your choice, OC.

You can also view my perspective as overly broad - that is fine with me.

I'm looking forward to more of this great story as well as watching how the women grow closer to each other and better support/protect not just the MC but each other.

They are building a larger family, more traditional in the world of the Founding Families in this story than something in modern day RL, and I like how this group of people are coming together and growing as a family.

I am especially interested in seeing how Alison, Misaki and Elizabeth are going to grow into and become integral parts of this family.

Cheers!!

 

[MWPA78]

...So then the prospect of simply pleasing one's partner has no appeal to you, I take it?

And yes, okay, I get that we are after all talking about a bunch of pixels on a screen here, but still... That is a truly depressing point of view, I have to say. Maybe I am just a bit more immersed in the characters and story of the game than you are, and you just want a quick fap or the like. Which, you know, is totally fine in and of itself.

But I for one like to see the girls enjoying themselves (and each other) during their intimate moments with the MC. By all means, make the scenes focus largely on him, but if the girls want to have some fun with touching or kissing one another... Well, why would that really be such a "horrible" thing? They definitely aren't cheating after all, since it all involves the MC and therefore it simply can't count as cheating. And they certainly aren't being dishonest, sneaky or even just plain mean spirited about it, either.

So the perception that two girls focussing entirely on the MC is perfectly fine, but them so much as teasingly kissing one another, even if done only to arouse the MC further, somehow makes them "basic bitches..." I don't think I can really understand the reasoning there, to be honest.

-Mal

Fair enough. In my 20s I probably would have said the same. But now I've a different view.

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Thanks for the polite conversation.

 

[MWPA78]

So, you have a different opinion and a different sense of what a harem is than I do.

That is fine, as I said:

We each have different tastes and no one person's tastes are better/worse than another's.

I see the harem as a safe place for the women to learn about the MC, sex and what they like/dislike.

I don't have a problem with some of the women, encouraged by the MC or lost in the passion of the moment with the MC, kissing or stroking the other woman in the threesome, for example.

I disagree with Victoria and Akatsuki becoming 'bog standard basic bitches' if they start to kiss each other while the MC fingerbangs both of them, teasing them and driving them crazy before he finally allows them to have their orgasms.

A one size fits all definition does not, IMO, fit all AVNs nor does it fit all stories.

I see you as having a fairly narrow world-view/perspective on this but, that is your choice, OC.

You can also view my perspective as overly broad - that is fine with me.

I'm looking forward to more of this great story as well as watching how the women grow closer to each other and better support/protect not just the MC but each other.

They are building a larger family, more traditional in the world of the Founding Families in this story than something in modern day RL, and I like how this group of people are coming together and growing as a family.

I am especially interested in seeing how Alison, Misaki and Elizabeth are going to grow into and become integral parts of this family.

Cheers!!

I don't hate you for having a different opinion.

Under a strict etymological interpretation, "harem" doesn't imply polygamy, and implies that intimacies are supposed to occur only between the husband and one wife at a time, but never between wives and never in the presence of more than one wife.

Would polygamy mean that the husband has sex at the same time with more than one wife?

I involuntarily read your text with the internal voice of a pleasant documentary narrator lol.

Edit: also, slightly disappointed you dont have a fitting profile pic to your username