VN - Ren'Py - Debtors [Build 6.3] [Leo Nois]

review from ver 6.3
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alright a few years ago when this game was early access and first released there was a charm to it coz first it had a solid story like there was this sister and brother whos were broke and had to pay their debt and the incest was there i would give that 5 stars although it just had like two scenes but still it made some sense but now u see some sloppy work done here it is reworked with more content of course but less context and well my personal reference was faded as well wanted to give 2 but coz furry baddies and gay stuffi give 3

The game is still a little rough around the edges but the scenarios and the art are so hot I don't mind at all. Only wish there was a way to play as both characters. Wouldn't recommend to everyone obviously but does it for me haha.

[Build 6.2]

• More than half of UI elements trigger the following warnings: "work in progress", "not in the game yet" and "available in future updates".
• Over 80% of existing sexual content is gay (unless you play as a female MC). I guess it was to be expected out of a furry game, I don't know what I was thinking.
• There is no "skip text" button so have fun clicking through the same lines that you've already read dozens of times (that is if you decide to load previous saves to check out all the options), oh and rollback doesn't work outside of some dialogue either.
• Some of the dialogue is literally just "Placeholder". Who does this? It doesn't take much effort to write several lines of generic prose to fill the gaps. Unbelievable levels of negligence.
• Sex scenes happen instantly with a click of a button: there is no build-up, no corruption, not even a sliver of dialogue or foreplay. You come to the gym for the first time ever and can already have sex with either instructor there. Didn't pay your rent? Can sell your wife to the landlord and she won't even say a thing. Male MC sucks dicks and takes it in the butt so effortlessly as if he was gay his entire life.
• Narration in repeatable events doesn't seem to acknowledge your previous deeds and accomplishments and roll as if everything was happening for the first time. Also most events seem to be happening in a vacuum and have no further consequences.
• There are several endings and game overs that happen out of the blue with no prerequisites whatsoever. You can confront Vito right after the story opening scene and get a gameover or an ending depending on how lucky your RNG is. As soon as the Blaire moves in and you offer her a couple of gifts, you can then already initiate "a harem ending", which doesn't make any sense, because they hate each other. Suffice to say, none of these "endings" feel rewarding or justified.
• Set pregnancy timer to 7 days, yet Blair is perpetually pregnant anyways, don't think you can impregnate anyone else so this setting is only for female MC?? It's weird because male MC has "amount of kids" stat, yet none of the female characters give birth.
• Why does "Hyena Brotherhood minigame" exist? It's an extremely short pointless clicker, which is not fun in the slightest. Why not just use those images and animations in the main game instead of wasting them here?
• Sooo many bugs. I somehow triggered the boss scene without working a single day. Dialogue in condom/no condom sex scenes with Claire is mixed. If you decide to trigger the cult event it does so ... twice? You choose your wish, go to sleep, then get the letter again and go through the same routine. You can hand over the "safe passcode" quest and get rewarded infinitely as long as it's monday and hyena with bunny are at the sauna. Game saves some of your stats to persistent file instead of your save files. Particularly the amount of partners and relations. So you can infinitely reload and max out your relations with a character, or .... you can permanently damage them, to start over. Example: there is a scene that will trigger at a certain day where Blaire makes an advance on MC, at first I accepted, which made both her and MC's wife hate him, then I reloaded, chose to refuse, but they both still hate him. Loaded an even earlier save and they already hate him over there too. Cue the "Guess I'll die" meme and fuck this stupid game.

This is pure exercise in frustration, the only saving grace here is good art and animations, everything else is just terrible. The 3 years development time is cap, there is no way the dev actually used all that time on planning, project management, coding and visual assets, instead of smoking pot or doing literally anything else. Reading other reviews, it seems that every further update is mostly cutting down on content and mechanics instead of adding new ones. The bozo in the dev's chair is either incredibly incompetent or doesn't give a fuck, probably the latter.

It is an early build with already good content, and yeah there are shortcomings but it is so fresh, give it time. I love how great the gay path is right now, and would love to have more recklessness. Excited to see how it turns out.

Rev @ Debtors [Build 5.9 Fix]

I like the potential, but I feel that the dev approach may spell doom for the project.

Art's better than expected; I'm not a furry fan at all and generally don't go for the Crapsack World aesthetic, but the visuals maintain enough fappability to keep my attention.

Writing is like taking a wide choke shotgun to a jigsaw puzzle at a distance. Pieces here and there, with currently less connective tissue than placeholders and promises.

Porn's aight. I'd prefer to see more of a corruption gradient and less insta-whore. I would prefer the m/m and f/f content not be under the same toggle, and that pregnancy have some effect other than gating off scenes.

My main concern is the scattershot approach from the writing section: it's easy to lose sight of The Plan and entirely possible to decide a scene or line that a ton of time and effort went into isn't needed at all (thus retroactively making the expenditure a waste). So many promising projects fail with a cohesive roadmap that I can't imagine a "lets chuck random stuff in a bag and shake until Game" is gonna work better.

TLDR: Godspeed. Will update in future, if there is one.

I like the premise of the game, but trying to see the content that the game already has it's a pain. Searching along all the options u can get and display that this content is not implemented in almost everything takes the fun out. If it was a guide or "task" menu it will make the game less boring.

I played the game first in 0.3, and every update took something away
and now the dev is saying in devlog the game is story complete? like in 0.4 I could talk to my wife, now its WIP? really? you had the dialog ready, and you took it away
the UI changed for the worse and it became cladded, the overworld menu is taken and put to the right bottom corner into a small box, before you could get out and it was intuitive, now you must use what is supposed to be sub menu not the only potion
Before I would give it 3 or 4, because these kinds of games are few in-between but the regress in content and regress in quality of UI put it down

love the story, I will keep very close eyes on this one. Passive and dominant route can be quite entertaining and there is both. So much potential with many more characters. I can't wait for all mechanics to be implemented. Also the scenes are very nice to look at. This game really nudge me to provide my very first rating of any game here. Good luck in future!

It was a 4 but since the idea of turning into a alpha has gone and you cant get your own gf/wife pregnant its down to a 2 if that comes back and you can knock other girls up it would deffo increase. Art work and style has gotten a little worse in my opinon but is overal meh.

Pros:
- Fun Sim game
- Multiple characters choices
- Good flow of story and feature potential
- Nice Characters
-Multiple fetishes

Cons:
Bugs
Dev is trying to please everyone per update and makes the update look short for other people who play just one path
The debt mechanic is easy if you prostitute

My 2 cents and ideas;
The game is good and I give it 5 stars because it has huge potential..
But I recommend the developer concentrate on one path and give it lots of love. "Alfa" path is the best to start because most of the audience is heterosexual and can provide some good money to help him develop the game easier or maybe the gay path because the gay homies got that big cash.
The pregnancy system is cool but I do hope that you can impregnate other characters with the decided MC.
Another good money idea is to make a mod that introduces incest for the incest lovers ) "The main cast looks like brother and sister." You can easily put the mode or a switch to make it happen; just the dialogue needs to be changed

Good luck whit the game

There's no barrier to entry with any of the events, you quite literally fuck repeatedly until you either willingly succeed or don't. There's no cross character interactions, there's no conversations if you bring a character somewhere, etc. There's a few scripted events but there's only a handful of sex scenes and some of them don't even have decent climax endings to them either. It's 'oh they came' 'time to boot you to the apartment again'. The lack of anything to do combined with the nature of this being what a demo feels like, it'll be years before this is ever finished. Play book of lust if you want your fix.

Version 4.0 is simply inexcusably buggy.

Its a fun premise, but is simply not executed in a competent way to any degree.

Updates seem to make it less stable rather than more. I'd love the play a game like this, but at present it simply non-functional and what's there can be a little silly.

I follow this game since it's initial release and that is because I loved the art and the undertones of breeding. I don't necessarily hate/love a furry game but breeding and management? My bread and butter.

So when I get the update 3, I kinda let down. It have some improvements in UI and art but story have some changes while not anything new added to the game expect for bugs. God so many bugs...

Let's talk about bugs. First of all, vitamin system (which there is no explaination or anything) does not work properly. In my male character playthrough I was thinking it was not implanted until I see that it was working when I was nailing the Blair/Twin Sister. Other characters? Not a single one of them give you vitamins. It's broken.

You can not improve your relations with your spouse. There is a option but it's also broken in both male/female characters.

In the version 3.5 there was a mention of fighting Vito with and dealing with him via joining the brotherhood and fight for dominance. I was a little bit of hype about this because I don't like NTR or Omega playthrough but that was scraped. Instead you became a bitch for them and end of story.

You can not breed your wife not anyone else with male character.

There is no ending and there is no special interaction when you pay your dept.

Boxing minigame is a bitch and not a random one. It is decided when you click on the bet. There is no way to train your stats anymore. In old versions you can train your strenghts and that is hinted as a way to deal with your dept situation but that is also gone.

Becareful when you skip on the game because you will see some old scenes or just go directly main menu. This is a consistent bug for like Update 3. It is never fixed.

Male mechanic of Alpha/Omega does not add anything to game and there is nothing you can do with these.

This game has arts. Thats it. No gameplay, tons of bugs and no consistency. I like to have a way with male character that does not became gay in order to pay it's dept and have something to look forward to. But I don't have any hope for this project or the dev.

TLDR: Good art but that's it. Becareful about the bugs.

I don't know why I gave this game another go.
What they added are a few scenes for street work(+new ui for it), a threesome and the arena with 4 scenes in total, +3 side endings with let's say 1 scene each.
The problem is that the code is fucked up, holding skip in the main hub sends you to the main menu/replays a scene you saw, talking with your sister as the female is buggy as hell and either gives you a blank text or replays a scene, etcetera etcetera.
They added a few lines when talking with your spouse but nothing about them caring about what you do/what's going to happen, idk what's up with that and the placeholder scene between them.
For the MC there is an omega/alpha meter that doesn't have anything more to it atm.
2 Stars for the art, maybe I should give 1 more for the setting, but there's really nothing to see as a game here.

build 4.0

ok seriously after so many patches, just the first minute i encountered a bug (they talk about Paul saving Claire from earlier versions, even tho this version the text is completely different and the villain called Paul by name to have sex with him)

and multiple "placeholder" texts, even short ones which should be like 1minute to make, this game is not worth more than 1/5. how can a dev be so lazy to give such a low quality out of his hands is beyond me.

and i want to emphasize i am talking about the FIRST MINUTE of the game is full of "placeholder" and bugs. i guess he remade the game multiple times so it's kinda understandable... but not really, because he could correct those mistakes very fast yet he didnt after so many patches.

the rest of the game has bugs/placeholders etc while claiming that the game is already finished and just needs some extra content he is a joker.

i should give 1/5 but animations are high quality, it has bisex stuff but those are simplistic too. (nearly same scenes for both m/f MC.)

i dont think this game will ever be good with the pace it's going and i certainly cant recommend this to anyone while it's so unpolished so imo the 2/5 is perfectly justified.

In it's current developmental state, not so much to it, but still decently good. It is a W.I.P.
I like this game and hope for more to come. It seems it still needs alot of work. You can head into different paths and endings. As well as play as either the male/husband or female/wife, which both have their own scenes. Does have NTR (cuckolding) if that's your thing, but you can avoid it if you wish. Something worth checking out. Keep in mind it is not complete

Wow, I gotta say, this game is a total visual treat! I mean, seriously, the characters are just chef's kiss stunning! From the get-go, I was hooked by their jaw-dropping looks and captivating charm.

Each character is like a work of art! The level of detail they put into their design is mind-blowing. I found myself getting lost in their expressive faces and the little details in their outfits. It's like they jumped right out of a high-end fashion magazine!

And talk about diversity! They've got such a cool mix of characters with their own unique style and personalities. There's someone for everyone to connect with. Whether you're into the mysterious and brooding type or the bubbly and outgoing, they've got it all covered.

The world they've built is just as incredible. I couldn't help but feel totally immersed in it, like I was right there with those gorgeous characters. The backgrounds are so lush and vibrant, it's like a living, breathing painting.

Honestly, this game has it all - looks, charm, and a world that sucks you right in. If you're a sucker for eye candy and characters you'll want to be best friends with (or maybe more, no judgment!), this game is an absolute must-play. I can't recommend it enough!

So go ahead and dive in, and get ready to fall head over heels for these beautifully designed characters. I promise you won't regret it!

Still a long way to go, but absolutely love the art and where the story could go. Some minor tweaks for phone usage that I would like to see that would imitate other games. Curious on what the Office will look like when finished. Also excited for what to do with the bastard children.

Really promising game, so far! I like the art style, animation, and the story! The premise is cool and I like all of the different choices you can make in the game (even though is it a demo, it's still nice!). I can't wait to see more future updates.

Great art and a good start to the game. Fully animated and with characters that actually look good. There are some bugs and the game remains unfinished, however. I will likely up rating when game is complete.