vrtrtr

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am i retarded or have a lot of things stopped giving intelligence (like telling the robot paradoxes or recognizing jesus)?
 

IncineratedMulan

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Stop any confusion by stopping "pictures" in changelogs. "Events" is the word, I highly doubt anyone is impressed by "116 pics" when it's, essencially, one picture overlayered a bunch of times. Just say "added two major and three minor events, all of them fully support my bod-mod system". This way it's clear what we are talking about.
The second one is right there - events. More of them. We all know you suck at time management, but it still doesn't absolve the abyssmal amout of event/development_time ratio.
Also, for a bod-mod corruption game, it very much lacks a decent stat-state-tracking interface.
How's this for a solution?
But there are 116 new pictures.
And while some of them are easier to produce - they all are equal in the eyes of the code.

You want constructive feedback`? ait, heres 3 gripes i have.


- you never seem to finish anything. The new U storyline, what about that? hadnt had any updates to that in ages, i cannot slut it up / bimbo it up there. Theres two rooms with event triggers left and right to it that really get me curious everytime. And thats just an example . Heres a few more: The hacker storyline,the movie/filmstudio storyline . And now you have this big super mega pregnant update in a town. im not gonna sit here "ouhhhhhh thats not mainstory" like some people did.because it clearly is and you can tell if you read. its just not very well thought out. You can go full bimbo with - 100 int and +21652312093 slutyness and i still cannot go to the pillar/stocks on my own accord, i cant choose to randomly fuck someone, i cannot choose to whore myself out like other npcs clearly are, its always a single point thats missing, and none of the storys conclude. Why isnt the analrapist sending me to porntown or making me his own doll slave hes ALMSOT there, why can i not do the new u treatment on my own accord, why if i break in and getcaught on porpuse and get bondaged up in that suit with the dildos and the helmet, do i have to break out instead of taking it for a stat decrease, why do you make a game that tells me i have choices to make, but then dont give me any choices to make, even tho my version of my kira at that point , would do it instantly.

- youre inconsequent. Instead of adding 10000 different body mod's and portrait to e very content youve already made, you add 1000 new expressions exclusively in new content. its so weird having a bimbo mc go to jail and ltierally just not have any scenes change. Less is more,i love the detail but maaaaan you can totally get away with making default face expressions and streamlined work, not everything must be 1000% unique, trustme, this isnt like video editing where youd notice, most hentai games do that for good reasons, mainly cost and time. Make what is already there work, expand on that, add new sections after that. Finish one thing first, then go to the next.

-You force your entire playerbase to play the game every single time it updates. Claires quest has a npc in the gallary that updates your save so you can carry it over, some games have skip functions that are way faster then yours, a new dawn has cheats and accelerated gameplay if you so choose, meanwhile i literally cannot load my 0.49.0 save, if i put it into the folder it just doesnt show up in the game, so i need to replay the entire thign again? ive been doing th at since 0.42. Whats even worse is that without this trial and error i still wouldnt know when to put saves so i have a semi functioning gallery for the good shit. And even worse: at that point i am almost certainly going to be disappointed by the fact that m y current kira looks different from the scenes. That reminds me, do you know what another problem is? You have very hard statchecks in the game that do NOT have alternative ways around it, so you cant even play this game as a sandbox. you are required to do certain content in a row because theres no way to consistenly upgrade stats or decrease stats. i cannot do the gym first to see if the gym content is sick because i need a perversion level at -8. Dont you think that for yourself too, it would just be easier ot make those stats more feasibly grindable atleast now where the game isnt quite complete, till all the content is in place so people actually can choose what they wanna do instead of having to replay the entire thing in the same order? dont you think streamlining those stat checks or putting in ways (like the dum bitch juice, again you can remove this later, when the content thats clearly missing now, is there) that increase stats *fast* (as well as money, since money is always an issue) or atleast controlled (compared to now which locks them behind progression and specific events rather then random ones or just working or actually just taking the grind like going out in the night is pointless. the guy in the park that changes location is pointless etc because even if i do that content it doesnt change anything so might as well not do it) is a easy way for you to find bugs faster as well as us reporting them faster?

Game still breaks quite frequently, can i even take a bath in the gym? what about the incel meetup in the night? theres no follow up to any of it, why tease it if we literally dont even interact with it?how hard is it really to have a switch ( i know how rpgm works) that allows you to repeat scenes when talking to npcs again, you can go everywhere again and again so its not like this is a logistical impossibility. Work on your core gameplay first, work on your systems first, then polish them, dont polish them now just so you have to start again and extend them by 6000% later down, thats an exponential workload increase that WILL kill this project. TRUST me.

I am honestly just sick and tired of having to replay the entire thing because even in my speedruns it takes me a solid hour,the lack of gallery feature or replay feature literally makes it so that i cant explore other paths without feeling like i waste my time.Workflow and streamlining is soooooooooooo important, yo uwanna know how important streamlining is? germany lost world war 2 because they didnt do it. (okaybad joke, but its actually true, germany handcrafted every tank, every cog, everything by hand, while the russians and americans were shitting out shermans and t26 on an assembly line, it was actually atrocious. IN this scenario, you are the tiger tank, take some shortcuts/general faces/now,the level of detail you strife for is great, but also unnessessary right now,because thats part of polish (e.g. version0.99) and not part of the current dev cicle youre in. Do NOT go for low hanging fruits like yandere dev, get the systems in place first, every single time you patch a new anything in you have to go back and change everything, no, put it all in first, then change it, nobody, and i repeat , nobody, is gonna tell you that youre shit for doing a bit of samefacing because everyone is doing it, because if they were not doing it they would never finish, andm ost people change it later as previously stated.)

i dont wanna insult you by assuming things but i have a sincere question

do you have a design document with a flowchart, is it outlined completely at all, because, with every patch i think its not, and if you have one, have you considered revisiting it or streamlining it? if you want i can help with that, fuck it ido it for free, pro bono and i have no fucking job atm since covid happened.
I do not finish anything because I do not want to. You don’t seem to understand what I’m doing. I’m creating a “life-sim” narrative with jobs, partners and shit. The story you’ve seen so far is a compromise - My mango is to build a system that supports whatever I might want to add later on.

Just imagine, after the “New You” some voice in Kira’s head tells her that she has to suck 10 dicks and walk all day with a vibrator - currently, this command will work with any quest at any time and that’s the goal for everything - absolute freedom.
how bout a little split up and do more events for olga and katya in hospital? There's way to make them naked, and events with them wouldnt require to draw extra layers... Also they dont have any body mods so not so stressful to draw. And that's a good story route, dont waste it
Exactly my thoughts. It’s “free real estate”, I’ll get back to it after dealing with the rest of our burning issues.
 
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Well mulan, but then dont compromise on your vision? the story isnt really necessary then is it. You created this grand tale of deception and internal strife and ....to put it blunt, you dont wanna do it. its not even a filler story,its a grand arc, and you dont wanna do it? imagine how mzuch you gotta go back on this once youre actually gonna finish up the lose ties. And also life smis without events are kinda boring ,still, your scale is all off, and so are your priotiys, if you all dismiss this i wrote because i "missunderstood you"(No, i didnt, you just didnt communicate it at all that you want it to be like this) then i dont know what to tell you. Was i super nice to you? prolly not, but i wasnt flaming you either.
 

betatest001

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Does anyone have a recent save? I went through thegame like 8 times now with long break update periods, I don't wanna be going through everything every single update even though it takes ages.
 

IncineratedMulan

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Well mulan, but then dont compromise on your vision? the story isnt really necessary then is it. You created this grand tale of deception and internal strife and ....to put it blunt, you dont wanna do it. its not even a filler story,its a grand arc, and you dont wanna do it? imagine how mzuch you gotta go back on this once youre actually gonna finish up the lose ties. And also life smis without events are kinda boring ,still, your scale is all off, and so are your priotiys, if you all dismiss this i wrote because i "missunderstood you"(No, i didnt, you just didnt communicate it at all that you want it to be like this) then i dont know what to tell you. Was i super nice to you? prolly not, but i wasnt flaming you either.
What? No.
I have a clear script that I follow. I just pick what parts of it to reveal and when - this fact should be clear in a couple of month.
 
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What? No.
I have a clear script that I follow. I just pick what parts of it to reveal and when - this fact should be clear in a couple of month.
Im getting confused, why do you say that it doesnt matter and you dont wanna finish stuff when the actuallity is that youre having a plan and its not up next? wouldnt that have saved you alot of trouble? anyway.

it doesnt matter now, the other parts that you did not answer to are almost bigger issues anyway, this is just a factor of annoyance many people share, and yo uwanted the feedback, i dont want you to agree with me that would be selfish , but just communicate clearer then, because after your last response i thought its half assed , and can you really blame me for that?
 

IncineratedMulan

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Im getting confused, why do you say that it doesnt matter and you dont wanna finish stuff when the actuallity is that youre having a plan and its not up next? wouldnt that have saved you alot of trouble? anyway.

it doesnt matter now, the other parts that you did not answer to are almost bigger issues anyway, this is just a factor of annoyance many people share, and yo uwanted the feedback, i dont want you to agree with me that would be selfish , but just communicate clearer then, because after your last response i thought its half assed , and can you really blame me for that?
people want content - something playable, something visible.
Backend doesn't matter.

Other issues?
 

shadow415

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I’m creating a “life-sim” narrative with jobs, partners and shit. The story you’ve seen so far is a compromise
Lol its a life sim now. Well that explains why the development is so slow and why a lot of the people are disappointed with the content of the updates. There is a big disconnect from life sim and what people's view are of what the game is.
 

jonbox

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Other issues?
I have an issue with misunderstanding.
When Snowball brings a nose ring, he calls it permanent. But it can be removed at Katya's shop (that's fine for me).
Due to the fact that it is called "permanent", I want to be sure that in the future updates it will not suddenly appear permanently on the character's image (that's not fine for me). I want to take it only for collection.
 
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I have an issue with misunderstanding.
When Snowball brings a nose ring, he calls it permanent. But it can be removed at Katya's shop (that's fine for me).
Due to the fact that it is called "permanent", I want to be sure that in the future updates it will not suddenly appear permanently on the character's image (that's not fine for me). I want to take it only for collection.
The thing is that the week long milking training should not allow you to leave that area so yes. At the moment the ring will be permanent as long as you will not be able to leave the Vivarium and visit someone who can make it not permanent. Same goes for tattoos. Those are fairly permanent things but given the right tools and skilled person they can be removed.
 
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I do not finish anything because I do not want to. You don’t seem to understand what I’m doing. I’m creating a “life-sim” narrative with jobs, partners and shit. The story you’ve seen so far is a compromise - My mango is to build a system that supports whatever I might want to add later on.
Hmmm... What do you think are the chances of adding some pubic area body hair to the optional modifications? Piercings, tattoos, body writing, lactation, pregnancy... I believe this should belong alongside them. Do you plan on this as well sometime in the future?
 

Idontplay

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Im getting confused, why do you say that it doesnt matter and you dont wanna finish stuff when the actuallity is that youre having a plan and its not up next? wouldnt that have saved you alot of trouble? anyway.

it doesnt matter now, the other parts that you did not answer to are almost bigger issues anyway, this is just a factor of annoyance many people share, and yo uwanted the feedback, i dont want you to agree with me that would be selfish , but just communicate clearer then, because after your last response i thought its half assed , and can you really blame me for that?
Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems to me that Mulan is building a really convolute plot, in which you can't simply solve a quest to start the following one, because every quest give to us some hints about Kira's past and her actual mission: the mysterious Lenny's quest; which is the main quest of the game. So every progress in a certain quest can put in question everything we thought to know, forcing us to reopen the past quests, putting what happened and how Kira interacts with the various characters in a totally different prospect.
Then there is the issue that a great part of the gamers prefer to have a great number of new sexual contents, rather than a great story and the developer must take this into account; but this is an issue of every porn game.
 
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