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So this part of the changelog confuses me: ' Added text references to Kira’s appearance in a Modest Proposal quest (cum, pregnancy, some fetishes, whether or not her breasts are out and body writings); ' so is pregnancy in the game or still just a debug?
No it is coded into the game, but not accessible. This is something a lot of people don't really pay attention to that Mulan does. There is a shit ton of inaccessible art and choices coded into the game in every new small update we have received over the past year or so. All of it is related to systems that are not accessible in the game yet (pregnancy, makeup, breast sizes above 5). You can literally go into the files and see it, but it will not yet appear in game without cheats. Theoretically, what this means is that when those systems become accessible in the game, he will not have to return to reimplement changes to all the prior events. This is good. Will it turn out perfect? We can only guess at this point. I worry greatly about the art debt the team has accumulated at this point. So many fucking breast sizes and ass sizes and lip sizes and now branching choices has to be resulting in a shit-ton of lift on the art side. I am genuinely unsurprised that he is now having to split updates in half, one half implementation of events, the other half implementation of art.

Also, for all the people that are complaining about him not finishing the farm update, what the fuck do y'all want at this point? A year ago people were crying on here for him not releasing Main Story quests, so he pivots from the Farm to do that, and now we back to crying about no farm? Y'all just about as indecisive as Mulan is.
 

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Show me one changelog whos content wasn't implemented.
The scrapped update's changelog. Like I repeatedly said.

And again no one is getting scammed here. They can stop giving him money at any time. No one's forcing them and they can end their support for any reason they want.
You're saying it's not a scam because they can stop at any time and they're not being forced. Scams, by their very foundation, are predicated on the victims being deceived into not thinking they're victims and willingly going along with it.

Also there is no auto flag. It was only marked as abandoned for like five minutes because a bunch of crybabies like you weren't happy with the content of the updates.
There literally is an auto-flag. That's just an objective fact, it's directly confirmed to exist by the moderators themselves. Also the flag on this game was explicitly stated to have been placed by inactivity, not reports.

In order for a game to be abandoned or on halt the creator has to actively declare that. He never did and he posted regular updates on the state of the game regardless.
That's objectively not true. Firstly, he had a period of radio silence, so that disqualifies the claim of "regular updates", secondly go look at the rules for the flag itself. How could there be a qualifier for dev inactivity on this site if you need dev activity to place the flag?

Also like what are you tryna do here? Calling the game a scam has literally never worked. It's also kinda stupid to say there's no new content five days after a content update.
I didn't say there's no new content, I said 14 months ago he stole 15 months of crowdfunding under the false pretense of making a completely fictional update that he never worked on to begin with, and that he's drip-feeding micro-updates to game the Abandoned flag rules. These are both true statements.

And I'll call a scam a scam if I please, I truly don't care how hard you try to defend a dude who's repeatedly been caught lying and trying to gaslight people. If even one person changes their mind about wasting their money on vaporware then that's good enough for me, as I said.
 
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Is it possible to play the game with zero to minimum body modifications?
Yes, you start at minimum breast, butt, and lip size when you start the game. There is a mandatory breast enlargement right away, but proceeding down the main quest will allow you to get a reduction. However, if you repeatedly degrade Kira there are some points that will increase her breast size. You are always able to return to the reduction place though, so you shouldn't really worry about it. Butt size only goes up if you do squats at the gym. Lip size is through an event, but is a permanent change as of currently, so be on the lookout for that one if you don't like DSLs.
 
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The scrapped update's changelog. Like I repeatedly said.



You're saying it's not a scam because they can stop at any time and they're not being forced. Scams, by their very foundation, are predicated on the victims being deceived into not thinking they're victims and willingly going along with it.


There literally is an auto-flag. That's just an objective fact, it's directly confirmed to exist by the moderators themselves. Also the flag on this game was explicitly stated to have been placed by inactivity, not reports.


That's objectively not true. Firstly, he had a period of radio silence, so that disqualifies the claim of "regular updates", secondly go look at the rules for the flag itself. How could there be a qualifier for dev inactivity on this site if you need dev activity to place the flag?



I didn't say there's no new content, I said 14 months ago he stole 15 months of crowdfunding under the false pretense of making a completely fictional update that he never worked on to begin with, and that he's drip-feeding micro-updates to game the Abandoned flag rules. These are both true statements.

And I'll call a scam a scam if I please, I truly don't care how hard you try to defend a dude who's repeatedly been caught lying and trying to gaslight people. If even one person changes their mind about wasting their money on vaporware then that's good enough for me, as I said.
-I don’t know whether or not there is an auto-flag on F95, but when this thread was tagged as “abandoned”, I made a ticket and the mods removed it. It is enough for a dev to say that the game is still in development, there’s no need to post an update (it’s in the rules btw)

I don’t post an update every three months - I post it whenever I feel that I’ve got something to show. For example - 0.5a was in September and 0.4.9.9a was in May (that’s 4 months).

-What 15 months?
There’s never been a period where I was silent for that long, and there’s never been a break between updates that long either.

You’re making stuff up for dramatic effect which damages your argument. Stop doing that, there’s plenty of stuff that I actually did wrong - focus on that.


-What’s this mysterious scrapped update you’re talking about? The last one? The one where I had to split all announced content into separate updates because I underestimated the workload?

The only thing I “lied” about is time and I didn’t do it on purpose - I just can’t predict it. Which is why we no longer have release dates and I just speak about planned content in general.

Look, I’ve handled things poorly in the past, but I’m doing my best to rectify my mistakes. Right now I’m trying to work faster, being more active online and releasing updates with some consistency.

I don’t know what else you expect me to do - this is just the amount of time it takes to make a game in this artstyle, with this amount of bodymods.
I am slowly becoming faster (this layering update was finished 2 weeks faster than the previous layering one), but that is a problem - bodymods, they eat the majority of my time and I’m not fast enough (yet).

I think I’ve handled things better this year, there weren't any periods of time when I was silent and there’s been relatively consistent updates, so I really don’t understand why are you whining right now, when things are good (or at least becoming better).
 
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The scrapped update's changelog. Like I repeatedly said.



You're saying it's not a scam because they can stop at any time and they're not being forced. Scams, by their very foundation, are predicated on the victims being deceived into not thinking they're victims and willingly going along with it.


There literally is an auto-flag. That's just an objective fact, it's directly confirmed to exist by the moderators themselves. Also the flag on this game was explicitly stated to have been placed by inactivity, not reports.


That's objectively not true. Firstly, he had a period of radio silence, so that disqualifies the claim of "regular updates", secondly go look at the rules for the flag itself. How could there be a qualifier for dev inactivity on this site if you need dev activity to place the flag?



I didn't say there's no new content, I said 14 months ago he stole 15 months of crowdfunding under the false pretense of making a completely fictional update that he never worked on to begin with, and that he's drip-feeding micro-updates to game the Abandoned flag rules. These are both true statements.

And I'll call a scam a scam if I please, I truly don't care how hard you try to defend a dude who's repeatedly been caught lying and trying to gaslight people. If even one person changes their mind about wasting their money on vaporware then that's good enough for me, as I said.
Again, show me a changelog coward.
Second, you might have some mild amnesia. People literally decided to message the mods to get an abandoned tag. And when it happened Mulan quickly came and had it taken off. Again, because HE WAS STILL FUCKING ACTIVE. Also regular progress reports were posted about each month or so even at that time. I think the longest we went without a developement update was two months. Y'all just cried because there were no major content updates and when there was an update, you just felt that it wasn't enough. And that's why everyone started to shit themselves and wanted an abandoned tag. Also the game is free, so who tf cares.
And lastly, let the people on patreon do what they want. Calling them stupid isn't making a point. No one's getting decived here. They get exactly what they're paying for. The ability to influence developement and insite into the developement.
 

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Yeah I'm not wasting my time with you again. We've had this exact dance multiple times, and every single time you've been shown to be attempting to lie or were flat out wrong.

And you even have posts replying to me where you yourself corroborate what I've said here. If you have such a bad memory use the search function instead.

No one's getting decived here. They get exactly what they're paying for.
You should really look up how scams work because every time you try to argue against that you just lean harder into "This is literally a scam and I'm supporting the argument".

As for the rest, read above and use the search function, I'm tired of derailing for a brick wall to feel better about their sunken cost fallacy.

I don't need to repeat myself to prove a point, it's all already posted in this thread.
 
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Yeah I'm not wasting my time with you again. We've had this exact dance multiple times, and every single time you've been shown to be attempting to lie or were flat out wrong.

And you even have posts replying to me where you yourself corroborate what I've said here. If you have such a bad memory use the search function instead.


You should really look up how scams work because every time you try to argue against that you just lean harder into "This is literally a scam and I'm supporting the argument".

As for the rest, read above and use the search function, I'm tired of derailing for a brick wall to feel better about their sunken cost fallacy.

I don't need to repeat myself to prove a point, it's all already posted in this thread.
Great counterpiont mate. Just saying "no you" and "do your own reaserch" has always worked lol. Just go cry somewhere else. Stop bothering us, no one cares about you or your opinion.
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IncineratedMulan

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Okay? I guess the abandoned tag was warranted for 5 minutes back then? What’s the point of this?

I like that instead of just searching Mulan's own posts on this site you just assume I'm lying, which has the hilarious side-effect of you directly inferring that Mulan's own words are a lie. The search function is really easy to use, you don't need to do this to yourself.


Please stop embarrassing yourself by trying to blindly defend things you don't have any context for.
The burden of proof lies on the accuser. Show us the changelog, show us those supposed 15 months of inactivity, back up your words.

also - you’re right, my memory might not be that great because I don’t remember talking to you. To me, you’re the newest iteration of another random displeased player. There were plenty of “you” over the years, and all of them eventually grew up and moved on with their lives.

Please stop embarrassing yourself by trying to blindly defend things you don't have any context for.
 
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I like that instead of just searching Mulan's own posts on this site you just assume I'm lying, which has the hilarious side-effect of you directly inferring that Mulan's own words are a lie. You should really stop while you're ahead, you're crossing your wires so hard right now in scrambling to discredit me.


I wonder how the thread was flagged if manual flagging wasn't eligible, it's almost as if we have an automated system with different rules that flagged it instead and this Abandoned report spam narrative is completely fabricated and even the posts at the time of this even happening can corroborate this if you knew how the search function worked (You'd even see me there, directly telling Mulan about the system and how it works, which he acknowledged and is now vehemently denying because it's a bad optic for his fake narrative).

To throw you a bone, the auto-flag is 3 months of inactivity and/or 6 months of no update uploads on this site, which Mulan failed to uphold on both ends.

Now please stop embarrassing yourself and wasting my time by trying to blindly defend things you don't have any context for.
Again, show me the goddamn changelog that wasn't implemented.
And do you seriously think F95 checks every goddamn patreon and other sites and the creators socials to "automatically" set a game as abandoned if they don't post for 3 months? There is no automated flag.
Also we still recieved updates from mulan throuout the gap. And you can't blame someone for not putting together a nice progress report when he's in a fucking warzone.
 
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So moving from an area to another has a loading screen every time now.
I guess its a starfield meme or something, still not great for ux.
 
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Decided to give this game a shot b/c art style looked interesting. After the intro scene I wandered around the city a bit, ended up in a gym, then got sucked into a painfully unfunny conversation between a bunch of lockers that would not fucking end. After a full minute of that I closed and deleted the game out of spite.

Reminded me too much of trying to play Four Elements and the cringy "joke" dialogs that went on way too long in that game. Some of y'all really need an editor.
That's what the "Space Out" Option is for ;)
 
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