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BeholdTheWizzard

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Yes. You have a specific preference. But where the hell do you get off saying the angel transformation is "S***" because of that? How hard is it for YOU to grasp that not everything in the universe exists to cater to your specific tastes? I'm not into futa but that doesn't mean futa is "SHIT" and should be patched to appeal to me. Just stfu.
Futa is a fetish.
Virginity is game mechanic.

There's a difference. And no.
 

BeholdTheWizzard

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Virginity is also a fetish.
And those who like it - great for them. You do relaise tis only strengthens my position no?

I have an angel fetish.
But I cannot have it without being forced into virgintiy (which is another fetish).

Two fetishes shouldn't be intrinsicly combined.


Suppose you like catgirls*, but hate anal*, but the game mechanic is that you can only become and remain a catgirl by constantly engaging in anal? Would you like it?

*replace with anything you like and hate
 

ViviX12

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And those who like it - great for them. You do relaise tis only strengthens my position no?

I have an angel fetish.
But I cannot have it without being forced into virgintiy (which is another fetish).

Two fetishes shouldn't be intrinsicly combined.


Suppose you like catgirls*, but hate anal*, but the game mechanic is that you can only become and remain a catgirl by constantly engaging in anal? Would you like it?

*replace with anything you like and hate
Except there is a strong thematic link between angels, virginity and the ideas of purity.
 

BeholdTheWizzard

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Except there is a strong thematic link between angels, virginity and the ideas of purity.
Purity yes, virginity no.
And it would also depend on which religion you are talkgin about. Finally, this is a ficitonal religion that clearly departs from christianity.

Gameplay and user comfort >>>> thematic links
 

MRN64

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Gameplay and user comfort >>>> thematic links
I really kind of just hate this argument. If you try to shove every part of every piece of media into its own little walled garden you just end up sabotaging the quality overall. Without themes impacting gameplay and gameplay impacting themes you just kind of end up with a mash of uninspired gruel without context or flavor. In order for thematic bits and gameplay bits to really stand out they need to work WITH and be influenced BY other parts of the whole otherwise its just another generic story point or gameplay element that means nothing.
 

GarithosPurge

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Purity yes, virginity no.
And it would also depend on which religion you are talkgin about. Finally, this is a ficitonal religion that clearly departs from christianity.

Gameplay and user comfort >>>> thematic links
If it bothers you this much, then just lose your virginity and accept the Fallen Angel tf. That's what stage 2 is there for and your wings are even restored. However, you've also already stated how you edited your save so that having sex/losing your virginity doesn't make you fall.

So this means you've already solved your own gripes and can have as much sex as you want without losing the Angel tf, but you're still complaining about it. What's the problem? You're wording your argument as if you're advocating for other players, but you're really just advocating for yourself alone.
 

rhoghadessa

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Speaking of trolls, how would they fit into the DoL world? Swamp people version of Eden who kidnap people lost in the Bog Maze or swampy parts of the Moor? Or would they be corrupted sewer dwellers who Morgan is really trying to 'protect' the PC from?
 

Illruna

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Speaking of trolls, how would they fit into the DoL world? Swamp people version of Eden who kidnap people lost in the Bog Maze or swampy parts of the Moor? Or would they be corrupted sewer dwellers who Morgan is really trying to 'protect' the PC from?
if i remember correctly, vrelnir was going to make a fantasy game called addermarsh. i'd imagine elves and trolls would have fit well in that game.
 

sparrow_rose

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The X-Change mod has introduced my new favorite feature to DoL. Seriously, why isn't this already a thing? That's such a good idea. So, the mod made a change to innocence. While innocent you can do actions that you normally can only do with high... I forget. Anyways~ Cause you don't know no better! I love it! <3

Edit: Awareness? Promiscuity?
 
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BeholdTheWizzard

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I really kind of just hate this argument. If you try to shove every part of every piece of media into its own little walled garden you just end up sabotaging the quality overall. Without themes impacting gameplay and gameplay impacting themes you just kind of end up with a mash of uninspired gruel without context or flavor. In order for thematic bits and gameplay bits to really stand out they need to work WITH and be influenced BY other parts of the whole otherwise its just another generic story point or gameplay element that means nothing.
It's a porn game. Not some legendary cultural epic.
So gameplay and allowing players to engage in fetishes they like is and should be the main concern. "Themes" can be adjusted and tweaked, as can mechanics. Options can be added easily. A happy middle ground can exist.
 

BeholdTheWizzard

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If it bothers you this much, then just lose your virginity and accept the Fallen Angel tf. That's what stage 2 is there for and your wings are even restored. However, you've also already stated how you edited your save so that having sex/losing your virginity doesn't make you fall.

So this means you've already solved your own gripes and can have as much sex as you want without losing the Angel tf, but you're still complaining about it. What's the problem? You're wording your argument as if you're advocating for other players, but you're really just advocating for yourself alone.
Projecting much? Stop assuming what I want and think like you posess mind-reading abilities. You don't. You know jack s***.

Yes, I solved my problem with modding. But not everyone knows how to do it and I believe the option to adjust should be part of main game. After all, there's tons of option to tweak the game and have the players tailor the game to their liking. What's one more?
The better question is - why are you so admantly against it? Why are you against more player customization choices?
 
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tanukk1

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DoL is actually a critique of late-stage capitalism and toxic masculinity. The tingling sensation in MC's coochie as she services the meat rods of the upper class, the bull boys, and the rapists for spare change is actually the tingling sensation of the upcoming marxist revolution.

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Kingdom1999

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DoL is actually a critique of late-stage capitalism and toxic masculinity. The tingling sensation in MC's coochie as she services the meat rods of the upper class, the bull boys, and the rapists for spare change is actually the tingling sensation of the upcoming marxist revolution.

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>Becomes millionaire within year 1
Wtf I love late stage capitalism!
 

RenWilson

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I.... personally doesn't understand why things above is even worth arguing.

Imagine this, you got an RPG game, where you can be anything. You look at the "Mage" class on that game, and said "Oh, I like the bookish aesthetic, so I want to be one!".

But unfortunately, that "Mage" class could only be unlocked if you have enough "Intelligence" points. But instead of actually trying to get that "Intelligence" points, you instead say "Oh, that's bad game design! I just want to look nerdy without actually being smart, and the devs is at wrong for not providing the option for it!"

Do you see how stupid it is?
 

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Degrees of Lewdity 0.5.6.4 is now up on my blog. It lets you talk with Gwylan about unlocked special clothes, like antiques with Winter. It also includes consequences for one of the skyscraper outcomes, improves hypnosis, and adds more brown fox. There's secret content as well, but I'll say no more.

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