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DarkWarden

Newbie
May 2, 2020
57
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So you're telling me that after years of development all saves got nuked without a single option to help 99% of the playerbase that aren't new players but have old saves?

No automatic save migration of any kind for a simple RenPy save with simple numerical values that everyone can see with RenPy save editors online?
No prepared saves that people can use in the new version?
No quickstart option where you can select your biggest choices made previously before it continues the story with the new content?
All of the above options were done many times previously by many different devs in much more complex RenPy games.

"B-BUT THE GAME ISN'T FINISHED SO THE DEV CAN DO WHATEVER HE WANTS BECAUSE OF THAT!"
Not an argument. Not everyone is a cuckold.

Subscriptions without strict content expectations is one of the worst things that could have happened to any industry. The dev seeing that he can earn the exact same or more money over time for less work month after month is an inevitability every single time. What an embarrassment.
 

Oneaboveall

New Member
Aug 25, 2020
10
0
Can someone tell me all the changes in this update Like eveything, if possible as i just found out that my previous saves are gone. i just found out because i usually download the game after walkthrough and gallery unlock is updated. so please tell me what are the change to the story, scenes, etc.
 

RX-9/C

Active Member
Jun 22, 2017
524
938
So you're telling me that after years of development all saves got nuked without a single option to help 99% of the playerbase that aren't new players but have old saves?

No automatic save migration of any kind for a simple RenPy save with simple numerical values that everyone can see with RenPy save editors online?
No prepared saves that people can use in the new version?
No quickstart option where you can select your biggest choices made previously before it continues the story with the new content?
All of the above options were done many times previously by many different devs in much more complex RenPy games.

"B-BUT THE GAME ISN'T FINISHED SO THE DEV CAN DO WHATEVER HE WANTS BECAUSE OF THAT!"
Not an argument. Not everyone is a cuckold.

Subscriptions without strict content expectations is one of the worst things that could have happened to any industry. The dev seeing that he can earn the exact same or more money over time for less work month after month is an inevitability every single time. What an embarrassment.
You do know the game rework completely the code and migrated to a newer version of the Renpy engine right?
You welcome not to support the dev and not follow. Hence why you don't know that literally for months, they already told everyone that you going to have to make a new save going forward with the new engine. So don't go in and start shit like nobody warns you cause they did.
Every single week dev updates in the last 4 months.
 

PaxHadrian17

Engaged Member
Sep 8, 2020
2,247
10,908
I'm enjoying my restart of this great AVN.

It was obvious we were going to need new saves since there was so much rework done + a major Renpy update - and something the dev talked about in his dev logs months ago.

Improved stability and a successful Steam release = a better resourced dev who is incentivized to continue adding to hardware and software capabilities to not just continue development but to improve on the content delivered.

I have the added bonus of getting to add a few trolls to my ignore list when they complain about restarting the AVN instead of having the dev take time away from development to hold their hands on a restart of this AVN.

I'm looking forward to more MC/Shani seduction of the Queen and, with luck, we will get more of this path in the next rev.

Cheers!! :coffee:
 

RX-9/C

Active Member
Jun 22, 2017
524
938
None of that prevents any of the solutions I've outlined.
Why would they follow any of those "solutions" of yours? The game is meant to ship out in a whole completely new form. Why would they slap a save for you to skip all new the content they worked hard reworking on? 15 minutes of your life pressing the skip button is so hard bro.
 

Ummmh

Member
Apr 27, 2018
205
158
You mean this scene?

View attachment 4347280

This is the repeatable "Sleep with Ain" scene and it wasn't removed. It'll become available after you allow Ain to leave the basement after her punishment.

The problem wasn't sexual content with Ain. That's obvious because there's a LOT of sexual content with Ain. The problem was that some few renders in the game made her look underaged. Namely, a handful of renders in the "welcome home" blowjob scene at the end of day 1. That scene in particular was apparently flagged in the Patreon review, so the devs simply opted to remove those renders instead of nuking the whole scene.
I have a concern the Patreon police will drop the hammer on a lot more if they look into it.

Despite the official 18+ note, quite a few scenes have several of the younger "just reached adulthood" ladies looking more in line with traditional cultures' norms around the world, which very often (regardless of where in the world the culture was) set the acknowledged age of adulthood a half decade earlier (on average) than modern societies generally do. Young Zhara, for instance, as well as Lirah.

Again, we have the 18+ disclaimer, but young-ish looking pixel collections are apparently a capital thoughtcrime offense.

Sigh. Knew Patreon would warp the game..
 

Jericho85

Well-Known Member
Apr 25, 2022
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None of that prevents any of the solutions I've outlined.
Except those aren't really solutions. A save migration button would not be appropriate in this case. If it were a situation where the VN were split into separate installs where the old version was kept as "season 1" like some devs do (Eg, Desert Stalker and Desert Stalker 2), then I'd agree but that's not the case here. In this case, the code was ENTIRELY revamped and the renpy version got updated and the old game version is deprecated. There would be no sense in writing in a save conversion calling back to a version that is no longer there. In this case, just start a new save and be done with it just this once. You won't have to expect to do this every update.

And we knew well in advance that the saves were going to break. The dev was very clear about code being reworked in this version ahead of the steam launch. There's also a big warning on the OP letting you know that old saves won't work. If you don't want to play through everything again, then just hold the skip button and skip all of the older content. You'll be caught up in probably less time than it would take you to complain about broken saves on F95.
 

Lordroedor

Member
Mar 19, 2020
207
202
So you're telling me that after years of development all saves got nuked without a single option to help 99% of the playerbase that aren't new players but have old saves?

No automatic save migration of any kind for a simple RenPy save with simple numerical values that everyone can see with RenPy save editors online?
No prepared saves that people can use in the new version?
No quickstart option where you can select your biggest choices made previously before it continues the story with the new content?
All of the above options were done many times previously by many different devs in much more complex RenPy games.

"B-BUT THE GAME ISN'T FINISHED SO THE DEV CAN DO WHATEVER HE WANTS BECAUSE OF THAT!"
Not an argument. Not everyone is a cuckold.

Subscriptions without strict content expectations is one of the worst things that could have happened to any industry. The dev seeing that he can earn the exact same or more money over time for less work month after month is an inevitability every single time. What an embarrassment.
You are crying over 10 to 20 minutes of lost gameplay, that will bring you scenes and situations that you don't even know. You can get where you were in 10 to 20 minutes.

With some of you I don't understand what game you were playing, seriously. It's like you think this was this huge game impossible to skip or something. This is a 0.17. If you skip scenes, this is a few minutes long.
 
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micmitja

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Aug 6, 2017
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i guess have reached
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Shani might described this run best
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havent seen any bugs beyond Kyra basement one, which just delay - fixed in 0.17.1.2

made sorta guides on split path choices + repeatables
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but even beyond those got potential paths with all females.
well till next update
 
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swilkes022

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Jul 4, 2024
20
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Replaying the game now to get back to where I was, and I have to say, I simply cannot go back to do the apartment scene with Shani again. I have never gotten the chills to the extent that I did playing that scene - it got to me to the point where it took nearly an hour for them to go away, I was that creeped out. The gory killings - no problem, but the apartment - forget it! A total mindfuck!
 
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Uryzell

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Except those aren't really solutions. A save migration button would not be appropriate in this case. If it were a situation where the VN were split into separate installs where the old version was kept as "season 1" like some devs do (Eg, Desert Stalker and Desert Stalker 2), then I'd agree but that's not the case here. In this case, the code was ENTIRELY revamped and the renpy version got updated and the old game version is deprecated. There would be no sense in writing in a save conversion calling back to a version that is no longer there. In this case, just start a new save and be done with it just this once. You won't have to expect to do this every update.

And we knew well in advance that the saves were going to break. The dev was very clear about code being reworked in this version ahead of the steam launch. There's also a big warning on the OP letting you know that old saves won't work. If you don't want to play through everything again, then just hold the skip button and skip all of the older content. You'll be caught up in probably less time than it would take you to complain about broken saves on F95.
Dude, stop, the guy has a family too lol
 

420691312

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Feb 27, 2020
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So you're telling me that after years of development all saves got nuked without a single option to help 99% of the playerbase that aren't new players but have old saves?

No automatic save migration of any kind for a simple RenPy save with simple numerical values that everyone can see with RenPy save editors online?
No prepared saves that people can use in the new version?
No quickstart option where you can select your biggest choices made previously before it continues the story with the new content?
All of the above options were done many times previously by many different devs in much more complex RenPy games.

"B-BUT THE GAME ISN'T FINISHED SO THE DEV CAN DO WHATEVER HE WANTS BECAUSE OF THAT!"
Not an argument. Not everyone is a cuckold.

Subscriptions without strict content expectations is one of the worst things that could have happened to any industry. The dev seeing that he can earn the exact same or more money over time for less work month after month is an inevitability every single time. What an embarrassment.

clown take
 
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