Finsit

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Hi All,
Two things the link to walk-through is 404.
The DDGame .sh will not run in Linux Mint.
I include the trace back text:
--snip--
Please at least update to the v0.40.7 if you don't want to get the game and get the v0.40.8.
 

raulmp

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Jun 6, 2017
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there is an error with the second outfit in the sexshop, and the money system i don't buy anything but i'm always at 2 amounts of money so i don't know how really works, it don't need the typical "grind to the infinity" system but maybe some tips on how you actually earn money could be nice.
on the other hand the progression is really good, a good amount of scenes and slow but not boring progression. i think this is gonna be a really good game ^^
 

Finsit

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Jun 2, 2017
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there is an error with the second outfit in the sexshop, and the money system i don't buy anything but i'm always at 2 amounts of money so i don't know how really works, it don't need the typical "grind to the infinity" system but maybe some tips on how you actually earn money could be nice.
on the other hand the progression is really good, a good amount of scenes and slow but not boring progression. i think this is gonna be a really good game ^^
2 is the maximum income from the MC's regular job.

To earn more you can either train Frankie or make a girl work at the stripclub.


What do you mean by "error with the second outfit" ?
 

raulmp

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Jun 6, 2017
15
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2 is the maximum income from the MC's regular job.

To earn more you can either train Frankie or make a girl work at the stripclub.


What do you mean by "error with the second outfit" ?
oh, ok, the error is when you talk with francesca "ask her about other outfits she likes" she put the green one on, when the scene end and i appear again in the mc house with the text "Now would be a good time to choose a student" i have a never ending error that loops if i click ignore and if i click on rollback it loops on the message again leading again to the same error.

edit: if you need more details about what did i do before i get that error just ask me but pretty much only the francesca path.
 

raulmp

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Jun 6, 2017
15
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2 is the maximum income from the MC's regular job.

To earn more you can either train Frankie or make a girl work at the stripclub.


What do you mean by "error with the second outfit" ?
i delete the entire folder and copy the version again and now it works so maybe there was some older file messing around.
 

Pizzapockets

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Jan 13, 2019
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And don't you think those amounts are unrealistic ?

The income system is there to address issues with the gameplay. It allows us to not put you inn front of a wall you need to grind nor is so small that you already stacked too much money.

I explained it in this post.


The fact every other game doesn't put as much care in the system they implement is not our fault.
If they want to use systems that doesn't add anything to their game and become either meaningless the very instant they are introduced to the player or, on the contrary, a weight on their gameplay, they can.

But that doesn't mean we have to do things the same way.



I put a heavy emphasis on making systems that add something to either the story or the gameplay, and doing so intradiegetically.
That is why we never displayed numbered stats for the girls for example.

From the get go I was not satisfied with the old money stacking system.
So when we reworked the sexshop I sat down thought about the needs and goals and designed a system to cater them.


The reason I didn't explained it much is because I wanted to have feedback from the player first and not giving them information would highlight the point I need either to work on or explain.
I think you mean people where getting to the content to quickly because the money they made didn't disappear on them so you reworked it to make it more time consuming and asinine.
 
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Finsit

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I think you mean people where getting to the content to quickly because the money they made didn't disappear on them so you reworked it to make it more time consuming and asinine.
Frankly no.

We really had no idea how much people had.

But there is still a kernel of truth though. There would be no point to have a money if there is absolutely no shortage of it, we might as well remove it.

That would also remove most of the point of making girl work at the stripclub.


More importantly for me, it changes the story of the game.

With the current system you don't need to get much income, if you teach during the days and train a girl during the night, the cost of most of the toys is a minor hindrance. But the cost of the serums and expensive toys will still need some planning.

That work with the theme of the brilliant chemist fell from grace, with the mean of changing human kind and society to a much deeper extent than writing or penicillin.
The dude has basically discovered a clarktech and the only reward he was to get his work project shut down.

There needs to a small scale operation feeling doing on. He burnt all of his remaining ressources on getting a lab up and running. And since he is still a single 51 years old man, he is equipped with everything to live comfortably.

The only stuff he needs to fund now is his newly found interest in a very active sexual life and biochemistry adventures.

Hence why the income system is perfectly tailored to his situation.


Let's think about it. Currently the MC is something like a visiting professor while he would obviously have a tenure and certainly an endowed chair by now.
So at the start of the game the difficulty to get and maintain the income from teaching needs to reflect that, and I think it does.

And the additional income coming from first training Frankie to making the girl work at the stripclub follow his evolution.

The game is as much as a story about how he gets "corrupted" as he "corrupts" the girls.



And that part of the story would not work much with a cash pile system.
 

Finsit

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The distribution manner in Lab Rats is to spike their drink but I'm not even sure what the criteria is to use anything but the green serum.
Well currently there is no "unscripted" way to dose the girls.

I'm working on adding a system I called microdosing, from the eponymous technique, be it recreational or clinical, it fits both in that case.
It would just be a flavor type of game mechanic, to give the player a little more control over the pace of the training.
It will also probably allow for some occasional (and optional) "messing around with the serum" kind of event. I know Jan has been thinking about adding temporary fun events like momentary expansion, or things that wouldn't fare well with the somewhat believable with a touch of porn logic setting we have.
However it is still in design phase, so don't expect it on the next updates or something.

But yeah, currently the delivery mean is the only using the needle-less pistol injector. And given how good the MC is at concealing it, you wouldn't want to mess with him, he could probably conceal carry a submachine gun with ease.
 

youpla

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Instead of "game mechanics" that doesn't really change that all the approach we have in Deviant Discoveries, I prefer to have more new contents : new scenes with the girls, development for Alice, new transformations for Lola, and why not new characters to bimbofy.
Generally, when a developer tries to modify too much the core of a game, what follows is months of updates without anything new to spice the game. I don't want to see that happen witth Deviant Discoveries.
 

BlackBirb

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Jul 15, 2018
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This shows up everytime I wanna bus some toys to progress with the girls, do I just need to grind more?
Code:
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While processing text tag {/alpha} in u'\u25fe\u25fe{/alpha}{color=#44e3e188}\u25fe{/color}{alpha=0.5}\u25fd\u25fd{/alpha}'.:
  File "renpy/common/000window.rpy", line 98, in _window_auto_callback
    _window_show()
  File "renpy/common/000window.rpy", line 60, in _window_show
    renpy.with_statement(trans)
Exception: u'/alpha' closes a text tag that isn't open.

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
  File "sexshop.rpyc", line 66, in script
  File "C:\Users\Ian\Dokumente\MEGAsync Downloads\DDGame-0.40.1-pc\renpy\ast.py", line 657, in execute
    statement_name("say")
  File "C:\Users\Ian\Dokumente\MEGAsync Downloads\DDGame-0.40.1-pc\renpy\ast.py", line 45, in statement_name
    i(name)
  File "renpy/common/000window.rpy", line 98, in _window_auto_callback
    _window_show()
  File "renpy/common/000window.rpy", line 60, in _window_show
    renpy.with_statement(trans)
  File "C:\Users\Ian\Dokumente\MEGAsync Downloads\DDGame-0.40.1-pc\renpy\exports.py", line 1578, in with_statement
    return renpy.game.interface.do_with(trans, paired, clear=clear)
  File "C:\Users\Ian\Dokumente\MEGAsync Downloads\DDGame-0.40.1-pc\renpy\display\core.py", line 2240, in do_with
    clear=clear)
  File "C:\Users\Ian\Dokumente\MEGAsync Downloads\DDGame-0.40.1-pc\renpy\display\core.py", line 2690, in interact
    repeat, rv = self.interact_core(preloads=preloads, trans_pause=trans_pause, **kwargs)
  File "C:\Users\Ian\Dokumente\MEGAsync Downloads\DDGame-0.40.1-pc\renpy\display\core.py", line 3174, in interact_core
    self.draw_screen(root_widget, fullscreen_video, (not fullscreen_video) or video_frame_drawn)
  File "C:\Users\Ian\Dokumente\MEGAsync Downloads\DDGame-0.40.1-pc\renpy\display\core.py", line 2086, in draw_screen
    renpy.config.screen_height,
  File "render.pyx", line 516, in renpy.display.render.render_screen
  File "render.pyx", line 244, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "C:\Users\Ian\Dokumente\MEGAsync Downloads\DDGame-0.40.1-pc\renpy\display\layout.py", line 722, in render
    surf = render(child, width, height, cst, cat)
  File "render.pyx", line 151, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "render.pyx", line 244, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "C:\Users\Ian\Dokumente\MEGAsync Downloads\DDGame-0.40.1-pc\renpy\display\transition.py", line 361, in render
    top = render(self.new_widget, width, height, st, at)
  File "render.pyx", line 151, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "render.pyx", line 244, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "C:\Users\Ian\Dokumente\MEGAsync Downloads\DDGame-0.40.1-pc\renpy\display\layout.py", line 722, in render
    surf = render(child, width, height, cst, cat)
  File "render.pyx", line 151, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "render.pyx", line 244, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "C:\Users\Ian\Dokumente\MEGAsync Downloads\DDGame-0.40.1-pc\renpy\display\layout.py", line 722, in render
    surf = render(child, width, height, cst, cat)
  File "render.pyx", line 151, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "render.pyx", line 244, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "C:\Users\Ian\Dokumente\MEGAsync Downloads\DDGame-0.40.1-pc\renpy\display\screen.py", line 669, in render
    child = renpy.display.render.render(self.child, w, h, st, at)
  File "render.pyx", line 151, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "render.pyx", line 244, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "C:\Users\Ian\Dokumente\MEGAsync Downloads\DDGame-0.40.1-pc\renpy\display\layout.py", line 722, in render
    surf = render(child, width, height, cst, cat)
  File "render.pyx", line 151, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "render.pyx", line 244, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "accelerator.pyx", line 110, in renpy.display.accelerator.transform_render
  File "render.pyx", line 244, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "C:\Users\Ian\Dokumente\MEGAsync Downloads\DDGame-0.40.1-pc\renpy\display\behavior.py", line 740, in render
    rv = super(Button, self).render(width, height, st, at)
  File "C:\Users\Ian\Dokumente\MEGAsync Downloads\DDGame-0.40.1-pc\renpy\display\layout.py", line 1124, in render
    st, at)
  File "render.pyx", line 151, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "render.pyx", line 244, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "C:\Users\Ian\Dokumente\MEGAsync Downloads\DDGame-0.40.1-pc\renpy\display\layout.py", line 883, in render
    surf = render(d, rw, height - y, cst, cat)
  File "render.pyx", line 151, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "render.pyx", line 244, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "C:\Users\Ian\Dokumente\MEGAsync Downloads\DDGame-0.40.1-pc\renpy\display\layout.py", line 925, in render
    surf = render(d, width - x, rh, cst, cat)
  File "render.pyx", line 151, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "render.pyx", line 244, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "C:\Users\Ian\Dokumente\MEGAsync Downloads\DDGame-0.40.1-pc\renpy\text\text.py", line 1989, in render
    virtual_layout = Layout(self, width, height, renders, drawable_res=False, size_only=True)
  File "C:\Users\Ian\Dokumente\MEGAsync Downloads\DDGame-0.40.1-pc\renpy\text\text.py", line 590, in __init__
    self.paragraphs = self.segment(text.tokens, style, renders, text)
  File "C:\Users\Ian\Dokumente\MEGAsync Downloads\DDGame-0.40.1-pc\renpy\text\text.py", line 962, in segment
    raise Exception("%r closes a text tag that isn't open." % text)
Exception: u'/alpha' closes a text tag that isn't open.

Windows-8-6.2.9200
Ren'Py 7.2.2.491
Deviant Discoveries 0.40.1
Sun Aug 11 16:54:02 2019
 

Finsit

Harder Better Faster Cheater
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Instead of "game mechanics" that doesn't really change that all the approach we have in Deviant Discoveries, I prefer to have more new contents : new scenes with the girls, development for Alice, new transformations for Lola, and why not new characters to bimbofy.
Generally, when a developer tries to modify too much the core of a game, what follows is months of updates without anything new to spice the game. I don't want to see that happen witth Deviant Discoveries.
We are two working on the game.

I handle all the gameplay, UI and code, and Jan make the content.


Also, while changing the gameplay is apparent for the returning players, it is just the gameplay for new player.
This shows up everytime I wanna bus some toys to progress with the girls, do I just need to grind more?
Code:
--snip--
Why do you keep using the 0.40.1 without patching the newer versions.

The 0.40.8 is available .
 
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youpla

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We are two working on the game.

I handle all the gameplay, UI and code, and Jan make the content.

Well, it's reassuring then.

Too bad, though, that your co-worker who seems to decide about the content of future content of the game doesn't come here to give us some hints about what he plans, or discuss about the suggestions and advices given by the people on this board.
 

RedIcr

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Nov 24, 2018
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man can anyone provide me with save file pls until the last update.... i have finished the game.... but my save file isnt compatible in new version of this game
 
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