Do you have any advice for a beginner NSFW creator?

[NeedMyMommy]

Hello. I'd like to briefly share my story. I make tools and animations. I used Blender and SFM before - Now I've switched to AI - I make models, LoRAs, and other tools. Additionally, I wanted to do photos and animations. For a few months, I've been trying to start a career as an NSFW creator, but everything that can go wrong does. At the beginning, shortly after I started, that idiotic law from England came in. I lost 80% of my reach overnight. Then Patreon changed their rules. Even though I had only SFW content, I got banned because I had one link to a LoRA on Civitai on the whole Patreon - that was enough to ban me without the possibility of appeal.

Now I tried DeviantArt - I posted my old animations, about 400 pieces - I tried not to violate their rules. 10 of those works were flagged and the system removed them automatically. I didn't post them a second time - I had a few hundred thousand views and people really liked those works, today I log in and I cried.

Account randomly deleted for alleged child abuse even though all characters were 2D/cartoon and my works have rather curvy characters. This is sick. No warning from support, nothing. Some automatic system probably pressed delete on my account. I wrote an appeal but knowing the experiences from Patreon. The last platform I'm on is Subscribestar.adult, the problem with it is that no one knows it. No one goes there. I don't know where to advertise or how to develop. Wherever I go, shadowbans, bans, or some new fu#ked-up regulations.

I have no idea what do or where to go. I feel like evry place simply hates NSFW - The strangest thing is that regular pornography where real people suffer is doing great. A girl who has sex for money at 18 is no problem. But 2D/cartoon tits where only my graphics card or time suffered is absolute evil. I don't understand it.

 

[eaudecologne]

Oh fuck that sounds like a terrible experience. I don't really have any experience as a nsfw creator but I suppose you could try making new account on patreon and be more sneaky about it? You know maybe make your characters a bit older idk. That's just the way the wind is blowing right now bro you can post your stuff on this site theres quite a lot of users here and twitter, reddit they all allow porn right? ive never used deviantart so idk what's their deal

 

[HotwifeEnjoyer]

Honestly best bet will be X ive seen the most success on that. I would just like your substar as a link so everyone can see it. ik it will be work but that may save what u can do.

 

[NeedMyMommy]

Honestly best bet will be X ive seen the most success on that. I would just like your substar as a link so everyone can see it. ik it will be work but that may save what u can do.

I had an amazing grow on X - Before UK. I started 2/3 weeks before UK trashlaw and i had no idea what's coming. I was growing very fast. Then that Uk law Hit. I lost 80% of views.

Then Patreon banned me for posting tools for free on civitai - i had full SFW patreon but single civitai link allowed them to insta ban me. It was't even NSFW tool. They said that bcs i help others with making AI based tools i may contribute to child abuse or porn making and bcs of that i'am banned. They did't even looked once that my entire civitai profile was only 2d/cartoon based for 2 years almost. Instant ban for a single link that just said i used a AI tool i made for making background.

Now i got banned on deviant art. I put disclaymer i would remove anything if somone think it looks wierd or loli like, i also tried my best to follow their rules. I got insane 200/300k views over few days, finally somone liked something i did and i was banned aut of blue.

Here is part of my profile on deviant art:

What else could i done ? post my face and record a video how i hand myself on a cross to show how sorry i am for liking 2d porn?

here are my last surving profiles.

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that's where you can see my profiles that still survived. I know i use AI and i am a joke not an artsit.I readed alredy 1000 of these comments.

But all i wanted is to make 2d/cartoon porn, learn to animated it and make nice stuff and share it. I know i would't make much money, i hoped for 50/100 bucks a month and just requests for free and some fun with chatting with others. I would be amazed if after 2 years my 5090 pc would pay half it's price for itself, eve 1/4 PRE-TAX would be awesome. I made only 2d porn, i put disclaymers evrywhere and i tried my best to follow these rules but lately i feel like some kind of terrorist. If Police wants to come over and take my PC they are welcome to do soo. Why entire internet lately went crazy. I wanted to make porn - for others to wank to it or hate, i did't want to be called "great artist" or have my works in cathedral. Why it's soo hard to post stiupid 2d/cartoon tits in internet?


I just feel like shit, i don't care abaut money here - it's just wasted efort. I tried to do requests for free, i shared evrything for free, i tried to chat and help with others just to have fun. Problem with subscribestar is that no one knows it, i have 0 traffic there, for example on deviant art i had 100 times more views per day than in few weeks on subscribe star BY FAR. I tried posting subscribe star links on r34 or other places but that's like 3 visits per day. For example on reddit where some very high reddits allowed me to post - when i post watermark with subscribestar logo i feel like no one know what it is. And you are not realy welcome to post links, they just agreed to let me post my work watermarked. It's alot already considering it's 2 of top1% reddits.

I don;t understand it. I am able to be active on CivitAi - they are going crazy over child/loli porn and posted like 5000 photos there, i had like 2 reports and i was able to talk with them and nothing happend. Same on X - No trouble, no problems. But On evry other site like Patreon on Deviantart i feel i am some kind of terrorist. I understand that some works i did could look worse than others, but that's why i only use 2d/cartoon, i also make my own tools to make my style more curvy, mature as times goes on. I would remove evrything, i would do evrything any support would ask me to do, but they just insta ban me evrywhere and when i try to ask them to give me example or talk to me in anyway they just tell me to get lost. I feel like i made mistake by trying it, it's just feels awfull. I never hurt anyone, i never once touched teen porn or any wierd stuff, i never hurt any woman or girl in my entire life but in last 2/3 months i feel like i should be in jail.

 

[HotwifeEnjoyer]

Sorry brother its been a tough time trying to just have fun. the effort isn't in bane since you still have all the skills you did develop. I would also say you will need to go on site like these that accept porn art this is how you will grow. I say this as I plan on doing the same. I also want to be a porn artist tho beside looking for sites like this I also plan on making my own website that may be your best way since you own it and no one can really take you down. ik thats not the most viable thing so if its too much its too much. other than that you could go the extra mile get a virtual machine set up have it set to be VPN'd to the states or somewhere else where it isn't BS rn. I'm very sorry its been hard for you brother. I would love to request something as well so just lmk what the best way to do that is.

 

[NeedMyMommy]

Honestly best bet will be X ive seen the most success on that. I would just like your substar as a link so everyone can see it. ik it will be work but that may save what u can do.

I don't mean to hurt anyone else but just look at this random deviant art page - ton's of character looking way less mature than these that i post, also they post sex scenes wich is not allowed, from what i understand they should be behind paywall - but they thrive and nothing happens. I did't post single sex scene like that and i got banned. I can't understand it.

Problem with your own sites and things like subscribestar or dfans ( these ones will not ban you over anything almost) is that no one knows them yet, no one goes there, i can't make any traffic there. I have no idea what to do.

And if you want me to do something you can just ask me dm, evry single request i did in 2 years i did for free, i just wanted to have some fun and chat with ppls, but now feel like shit. Banned evrywhere. I feel like child predator for liking 2dporn.

I have no idea how i could make traffic or connect with others. I tried evrything already. Who cares if you would have your own sites if no one would know abaut it ? you can;t realy connect to anyone today.


Most insane part for me is that 18 year old girls get's abused and used in porn industry and no one cares. They start way before 18 years old, many of them kill themselfs and evryone is fine with that - but you post 2d/cartoon porn and evryone get's crazy - wtf is wrong with modern internet

 

[MissCougar]

I have a feeling things are going to get a lot worse before they may get better. And it may take years to get back to a point we were at year ago, if it ever does again.

I feel horrible that you are impacted financially with no good way to recover.

I guess you can do SFW only, or try to team up with some movement making sales or shift to another not impacted art style. I also think AI in general is going to come under attack sooner or later too even worse than it is now.


I think the problem is the people making these rules may be participating with these platforms and making financial investments. So you want to target the opposition and virtue signal to the world. It makes no sense to us common rabble. I'd rather they go after real people than artists not hurting anyone. I'm fine with the real porn industry shutting down, but I don't think artists or people who enjoy and buy that art should be targeted. It's like not even the same level of hurting real people potentially.

 

[NeedMyMommy]

I have a feeling things are going to get a lot worse before they may get better. And it may take years to get back to a point we were at year ago, if it ever does again.

I feel horrible that you are impacted financially with no good way to recover.

I guess you can do SFW only, or try to team up with some movement making sales or shift to another not impacted art style. I also think AI in general is going to come under attack sooner or later too even worse than it is now.


I think the problem is the people making these rules may be participating with these platforms and making financial investments. So you want to target the opposition and virtue signal to the world. It makes no sense to us common rabble. I'd rather they go after real people than artists not hurting anyone. I'm fine with the real porn industry shutting down, but I don't think artists or people who enjoy and buy that art should be targeted. It's like not even the same level of hurting real people potentially.

I just don't understand this. For various reasons, I've never been able to form any relationships with women.
I treated it as a hobby - Everywhere possible, I gave information that if someone doesn't like something, they just need to message me and I'll remove it. The only thing I did and helped people with was 2D/cartoon - When I watch regular porn or photorealistic works, I feel guilty and bad afterwards. I don't understand why using teenagers and young people in the porn industry is legal, but I can't post an animation like Frieren or another imagined character who was never even alive shaking their buttocks - that's sick. In my opinion, the porn industry and all these companies are attacking AI and slowly even regular artists because regular porn is a form of control, the people who work there, all those contracts, lawyers, it all generates tons of money.

And such AI or hand-made animations? No one suffers, they're made in silence, at home, and they don't have to earn anything - it seems to me that's the main reason for the hatred.

I've never gone anywhere and demanded to be called an artist, I didn't do things that could be used for bad - everywhere possible, just a word would be enough for me to remove whatever they wanted. And still, everywhere they treat me like a dog. I don't understand it. I'm furious at these sites. Why at 30 years old can't I find sites where I can post simple, cheap porn with non-existent characters for other people like me, without hurting anyone. I understand I'm not a pillar of society - but for the last month, I've felt like some pedophile, rapist, pervert, and threat to society because I wanted to try to make some cartoon porn. Apparently, we can't even have that from life today.


I'll add that all the works I posted, I marked as AI, I posted them where they supposedly wanted AI, I tried to make animations and simply played with a new toy—the only place where I don't feel like a monster is CivitAI—and even there they blocked their payments and the site will soon fall because everyone around is set against them as if they were an international front for human trafficking and drugs—this is sick. Orwell would laugh that all the censorship and totalitarianism came from the UK.


I think they'll soon go after regular artists and animators—AI is already almost everywhere, soon 3D animations will be "AI" because eventually AI will be in Blender or SFM. The only thing we'll be left with is porn with 19-year-old Natasha who stares into the camera in a way that makes me want to leave the room from guilt while watching. The best part is that all—ALL—my troubles on these sites started only when my views there significantly increased and the quality of my animations/photos shot up. Everywhere I put in a lot of work and had a big popularity spike—then I was punished for it. On Patreon, I spent half a year gathering people and posting SFW works. When suddenly 7 or soemthing like that people subscribed and things finally started moving, then I suddenly learned I'm a monster. Same on DeviantArt—people started writing they liked it, asked for requests. I had a few hundred thousand views and BAM—right after a spike in queries, views, and profile visits. Like punishment. I don't understand it. Most of all, I don't understand that these sites have no second chances. I did everything I could not to anger them and I get instant bans everywhere—appeals look like I write a 5-page appeal and they reply "cool—we won't restore the account, have a nice day." I have no idea what to do. I feel like selling my PC and quitting this. The worst is that I have a 5090 and a space-age computer while playing SC2.

 

[MissCougar]

I just don't understand this. For various reasons, I've never been able to form any relationships with women.
I treated it as a hobby - Everywhere possible, I gave information that if someone doesn't like something, they just need to message me and I'll remove it. The only thing I did and helped people with was 2D/cartoon - When I watch regular porn or photorealistic works, I feel guilty and bad afterwards. I don't understand why using teenagers and young people in the porn industry is legal, but I can't post an animation like Frieren or another imagined character who was never even alive shaking their buttocks - that's sick. In my opinion, the porn industry and all these companies are attacking AI and slowly even regular artists because regular porn is a form of control, the people who work there, all those contracts, lawyers, it all generates tons of money.

And such AI or hand-made animations? No one suffers, they're made in silence, at home, and they don't have to earn anything - it seems to me that's the main reason for the hatred.

I've never gone anywhere and demanded to be called an artist, I didn't do things that could be used for bad - everywhere possible, just a word would be enough for me to remove whatever they wanted. And still, everywhere they treat me like a dog. I don't understand it. I'm furious at these sites. Why at 30 years old can't I find sites where I can post simple, cheap porn with non-existent characters for other people like me, without hurting anyone. I understand I'm not a pillar of society - but for the last month, I've felt like some pedophile, rapist, pervert, and threat to society because I wanted to try to make some cartoon porn. Apparently, we can't even have that from life today.


I'll add that all the works I posted, I marked as AI, I posted them where they supposedly wanted AI, I tried to make animations and simply played with a new toy—the only place where I don't feel like a monster is CivitAI—and even there they blocked their payments and the site will soon fall because everyone around is set against them as if they were an international front for human trafficking and drugs—this is sick. Orwell would laugh that all the censorship and totalitarianism came from the UK.


I think they'll soon go after regular artists and animators—AI is already almost everywhere, soon 3D animations will be "AI" because eventually AI will be in Blender or SFM. The only thing we'll be left with is porn with 19-year-old Natasha who stares into the camera in a way that makes me want to leave the room from guilt while watching. The best part is that all—ALL—my troubles on these sites started only when my views there significantly increased and the quality of my animations/photos shot up. Everywhere I put in a lot of work and had a big popularity spike—then I was punished for it. On Patreon, I spent half a year gathering people and posting SFW works. When suddenly 7 or soemthing like that people subscribed and things finally started moving, then I suddenly learned I'm a monster. Same on DeviantArt—people started writing they liked it, asked for requests. I had a few hundred thousand views and BAM—right after a spike in queries, views, and profile visits. Like punishment. I don't understand it. Most of all, I don't understand that these sites have no second chances. I did everything I could not to anger them and I get instant bans everywhere—appeals look like I write a 5-page appeal and they reply "cool—we won't restore the account, have a nice day." I have no idea what to do. I feel like selling my PC and quitting this. The worst is that I have a 5090 and a space-age computer while playing SC2.

I utterly feel your pain and it is very sad.

I wish the people doing these things understood what they are doing and who they are hurting and nobody is being "saved" anywhere. No real people are not being sexually assaulted or exploited any less than they were yesterday.

My fear is that by removing this avenue for people is going to result in more sexual crimes because I think men have a need for sexual satisfaction and if you remove some major outlet for relief they're going to start hurting people.

Maybe that's what they want out of all this?

I still think it will lead to control of the internet and what we are allowed to see and say, and I wouldn't bat an eye if tomorrow "violent video games and depictions of cartoon violence" get on the chopping block.

Using sex is just a doorway that forces politicians to pretend it doesn't exist or push it, but none will defend it.

No politician is going to face the heat of "oh so you support people seeing anime girls fucking angry white men?"

It's the perfect Trojan horse to waltz into major censorship. Porn artists will be the first to go, and porn games.

Will it ever come for real porn where real women are actually exploited? Probably fucking not because that would mean doing good for society and standing up for something that isn't just about mostly "hurt men", which I feel like a lot of these campaigns are out to do.

 

[Jean Moon]

hey, don't let it affect u too much, it's just how the things are, not much else we can do besides being ourselves, that's what "they"(deep state, authoritarian goverments/corpos and hypocrite prudes all over, u name it) are trying to censor, our hobbies and someone's career, u just need to wait and see for better options. Bluesky is one, never hurts to have an extra reach, even if myself hates that site, u can also post some animations on

You must be registered to see the links

, not a lot of people, but one of the few places dedicated to ai animations. cheer up, we fight against the opposition by being ourselves.

 

[NeedMyMommy]

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Oh fuck that sounds like a terrible experience. I don't really have any experience as a nsfw creator but I suppose you could try making new account on patreon and be more sneaky about it? You know maybe make your characters a bit older idk. That's just the way the wind is blowing right now bro you can post your stuff on this site theres quite a lot of users here and twitter, reddit they all allow porn right? ive never used deviantart so idk what's their deal

Nah - I don't want to cheat or bypass rules. I want to do it in a fair open way, If i would act like an criminal i would be one. I wanted to find honest, open way to post 2d/cartoon NSFW - If i can't do it, then ill stop.

wors't part is ppls liked that - i am not some artist or gifted person, but i think i was able to learn how to make a decent porn -
I easly get 50k views in 10h on animated posts on reddits where they allow me to post, but i can't make single $ bcs i am banned evrywhere i try. It's just wierd.

I don't get spammed by regular ppls that i do some pedo stuff or it's wierd. I got ton's of views and likes and then i got ban at aut of nowhere. I hate that.

Evry time i move forward a litle bit i got shot. After i started i got banned 2 times aut of nowehre and they passed that retarded UK law.

 

[eaudecologne]

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Nah - I don't want to cheat or bypass rules. I want to do it in a fair open way, If i would act like an criminal i would be one. I wanted to find honest, open way to post 2d/cartoon NSFW - If i can't do it, then ill stop.

Well that's your decision to make I'm just saying there are porn focused patreons still up so if you want to it is possible to operate one. I understand it sucks that you have to jump through hoops believe me I hate it too but as you said the other platforms have less publicity.

 

[Middling Emu]

Have you tried asking your mommy?

She might remark that your name could be the problem; as it suggests you may be a kid, or bent on some incestuous shenanigans!

 

[Cajun Fox]

Man that's a shame you're having such a hard time for something that was normal untill recently

I'm afriad that things will just get worse with all the Age verification laws coming into effect, which is just authoritarianism in disguise.

 

[Volta]

As a Brit i can say that a free VPN like Proton is now near mandatory, don't wait, get one before they become restricted, which they may very well become.

Also TOR is your friend, also get it while it's hot it's lovely.

Neither is perfect but if i can't browse r/okaybuddybalder

But to be real for a moment, adlut dev work has been the tallest nail for a while now, you'll get hammered every which way, by patreon, payment processors, religious governments ect. However mindgeek, the biggest porn provider in the world other than perhaps onlyfans still rakes in crazy money, as do most adult content platforms above a certain size. The trick is to create products yourself but to have a reliable outlet/publisher to release content with.

Patreon has the best reach but is vulnerable to which way the wind blows politically and are almost as capricious as youtube. Subscribstar are better but far smaller, run both and tell your patrons that subscribestar is your backup and they should be aware of it.. Steam has massive reach but are also the tallest nail and could change policy fairly fast if pressured, still worth it though.
Leverage social media, link everything with each other and try to network with other creators making content similar to yours, this has worked really well for AceX and Llamaman among others.

 

[NeedMyMommy]

Man that's a shame you're having such a hard time for something that was normal untill recently

I'm afriad that things will just get worse with all the Age verification laws coming into effect, which is just authoritarianism in disguise.

Wors't part is i waited like 2 years to start. i get better at animations, i invested into 5090 - and then that whole retarded show started. All i wanted is to do fanarts in cartoony style - i even aged them up quite a lot. Noe these fucke*s from deviant art not only ignore me but they don;t want to help me with giving me back my earnings - they are just stuck there ( few ppls baught my art in these few days ) - I feel horrible. I have no idea how cartoon porn ever hurt somone.

As a Brit i can say that a free VPN like Proton is now near mandatory, don't wait, get one before they become restricted, which they may very well become.

Also TOR is your friend, also get it while it's hot it's lovely.

Neither is perfect but if i can't browse r/okaybuddybalder

But to be real for a moment, adlut dev work has been the tallest nail for a while now, you'll get hammered every which way, by patreon, payment processors, religious governments ect. However mindgeek, the biggest porn provider in the world other than perhaps onlyfans still rakes in crazy money, as do most adult content platforms above a certain size. The trick is to create products yourself but to have a reliable outlet/publisher to release content with.

Patreon has the best reach but is vulnerable to which way the wind blows politically and are almost as capricious as youtube. Subscribstar are better but far smaller, run both and tell your patrons that subscribestar is your backup and they should be aware of it.. Steam has massive reach but are also the tallest nail and could change policy fairly fast if pressured, still worth it though.
Leverage social media, link everything with each other and try to network with other creators making content similar to yours, this has worked really well for AceX and Llamaman among others.

I have subscribestar but their age verfication it's annoying. No one realy bother to go there... Patreon is no go for me. I gaved and made free tools for graphic design, workflows or stuff like lora/checkpoints. I gaved for free almost 80 models on civitai - Patreon realised that and banned for single link to my profile. I had SFW channel back then. As somone who makes tools for others i am like ell-chapo or drug trafficker for them. They removed more than half years of my work, and when i gaved them 5 page appeal they told me to f off. They did't care. They also have that wierd rule that they look at what you do autside of patreon. If somone would be mean they could just go to civitai and report 100 creators there, all of them should be banned acording to their NEW rules. It's insane.


what kills me also, Patreon banned me after i got first 6 subscribers in a week after more than half a year posting animations and stuff, most insane part is - it was fully sfw back then. I think somone asked how i made simple background. And i responed with a link to my SFW lora for it in civitai (it was not for sell, it was't part of tiers - it was just my lora gaved away for free). That allowed them to wreck me. I never recovered after that. I sent them like 5 page appeal showing them 2 years of my work and tools were only made for cartoon works - they still said it could be use for ** and deepfakes and i participate in making dangerous tools and uncontrolled ai. I have a feeling that support stuff that banned me don't even know how data sets work.

I got single subscriber now on subcribestar (god bless him ^^) - well at least i am doing ok irl. But i realy hoped i could learn and make some stuff, some tools, and catch few hundred bucks from this ( even 100$ would be awesome, i did't even hoped for more) - but now from what i see making games, comics, evrything that's not real porn is just gambling. I feel sorry for all these civitai dudes making tools for free. Patreon will catch them all sooner or later.

Thx for good words. It helps.

 

[Goeffel]

Please don't bitch that much on subscribestar, rather be happy you got an approved account there already - with everyone else being targeted this much, they are bound to get bigger.

actually somewhat made me wonder how genuine your messages are, typically applicants for subscribestar account wait a LONG time until approved. (no firsthand experience, but from reading many messages from users worrying)

else/ generally: good luck to you personally, and I feel that specific UK law/incentive is not gonna survive that way in courts/appeals, but likely they were aiming for a somewhat lower-level "compromise" for the time being in the first place.

...

To then go for the all-out approach again after that's been established ...

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basterds!

 

[NeedMyMommy]

Please don't bitch that much on subscribestar, rather be happy you got an approved account there already - with everyone else being targeted this much, they are bound to get bigger.

actually somewhat made me wonder how genuine your messages are, typically applicants for subscribestar account wait a LONG time until approved. (no firsthand experience, but from reading many messages from users worrying)

else/ generally: good luck to you personally, and I feel that specific UK law/incentive is not gonna survive that way in courts/appeals, but likely they were aiming for a somewhat lower-level "compromise" for the time being in the first place.

...

To then go for the all-out approach again after that's been established ...

...

basterds!

"Please don't bitch that much on subscribestar, rather be happy you got an approved account there already - with everyone else being targeted this much, they are bound to get bigger."


- i am very happy with them, their support got back to me after 3/4 days. I sent them 1 msg that was something like "hey, i am profiles here and there, i like cartoon porn, i hope i could team up with you" and they replied. I was curious as well. They told me to set their link evrywhere where i am and i did that. In less than a weak i had it ready.

Their support was realy fast and helpfull at least for me.

I am just saying that few ppls i talked with said they have hard verifcation. (for exmaple you need to scan your face to enter if remmeber correctly) - i think that's what turn off many potential guys before they enter.

In my expierience it's just sad bcs in patreon i had 6/7 folks, and lot's of visits, i can't get back to that, also on deviant art lot's of folks were buying my animations. On subscribestar i have hard time starting or realy doing much. But their site and support is realy nice. I can recomend it easly.

Mby it's just my bad luck and bias. I am very small, i don't know what i am doing and i do it for hobby.


But from all platforms they were only ones that checked my civitai portfolio, or X, they cared, Realy.
I can't say anything bad abaut them. I recomend anyone trying to apply to them.


I agree with you. They would get bigger. They are very nice to creators from my expierience. And their rules looks way easier to understand.
I think they just need a ltile bit more time to get popular