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the times when you didn't think about money, sex, drugs? The times when you didn't know hatred, malice, envy? Can you return to that state again, at least for a short time?
Do you remember innocence?
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..lol no.....childhood was wild......
..also nope......always beeen a hater....
Envy and violence started early, because some other kid could take my toy and I had to fight for it.
Its hard to remember anything before 3 y/o
Its hard to remember anything before 3 y/o
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life advice from an old guy to young people in pain.
hatred and envy are problems you can slowly correct through working on yourself. they're most likely destructive behavior patterns someone else instilled into you, deliberately or even accidentally. they're usually wrapped around low self-esteem which you instinctively try to balance out through those destructive patterns. but it never works or makes you feel better because you can't fix an internal problem by targeting others.
the point is, there's no need to live like that, you can be happy and 'innocent'. you can train yourself out of the shit, but it requires self-reflection and understanding the problem is within, not outside. but not your fault. usually people get up to 40-50yo before they'te fed up being miserable (and oh yeah it gets much worse the longer you torture yourself), so it's not a bad idea to start understanding these mechanics early.
money, sex, drugs. while the first one is important for decent living, especially in countries with poor social programs, it doesn't work for fulfilling your life. try not to fall for that trap. get money, but don't expect it to fulfill your life. it'll always leavy you empty.
feeling bad about sex is one of those self-esteem things. stop thinking of yourself as a perv for wanting to be fucked by dickgirls or whatever it is. there's nothing wrong with you, liking weird things in sex is fine and completely normal.
drugs... while it's fine for recreation, try to catch when you're using them to stop feeling bad. usually there's some problem or trauma weighing you down, then you try to get rid of the shit feeling by using something that makes you beel better or even just numb for a couple of hours. it's an escape from pain. food, sex, drugs, booze, obsessive exercise all belong to this group. but like before, they don't fix your internal wound so things never get better.
when you fix that internal wound, the need for the addiction often evaporates. fixing it can be very hard and slow, but recognizing you have a wound is a good place to begin. most people don't figure that out until 40s-50s or never.
bottom line: you can fix all of it and be just as happy as when you were a kid.
hatred and envy are problems you can slowly correct through working on yourself. they're most likely destructive behavior patterns someone else instilled into you, deliberately or even accidentally. they're usually wrapped around low self-esteem which you instinctively try to balance out through those destructive patterns. but it never works or makes you feel better because you can't fix an internal problem by targeting others.
the point is, there's no need to live like that, you can be happy and 'innocent'. you can train yourself out of the shit, but it requires self-reflection and understanding the problem is within, not outside. but not your fault. usually people get up to 40-50yo before they'te fed up being miserable (and oh yeah it gets much worse the longer you torture yourself), so it's not a bad idea to start understanding these mechanics early.
money, sex, drugs. while the first one is important for decent living, especially in countries with poor social programs, it doesn't work for fulfilling your life. try not to fall for that trap. get money, but don't expect it to fulfill your life. it'll always leavy you empty.
feeling bad about sex is one of those self-esteem things. stop thinking of yourself as a perv for wanting to be fucked by dickgirls or whatever it is. there's nothing wrong with you, liking weird things in sex is fine and completely normal.
drugs... while it's fine for recreation, try to catch when you're using them to stop feeling bad. usually there's some problem or trauma weighing you down, then you try to get rid of the shit feeling by using something that makes you beel better or even just numb for a couple of hours. it's an escape from pain. food, sex, drugs, booze, obsessive exercise all belong to this group. but like before, they don't fix your internal wound so things never get better.
when you fix that internal wound, the need for the addiction often evaporates. fixing it can be very hard and slow, but recognizing you have a wound is a good place to begin. most people don't figure that out until 40s-50s or never.
bottom line: you can fix all of it and be just as happy as when you were a kid.
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There is no point in advice from old people to young people at all. Because knowing the path and going through it is not the same thing, so no matter how much advice you give, no one will listen to you.
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The advice of old people is poisoned by the fact that they spat on their own elders and threw away the old ways in favor of "progress." Wisdom is dead and we have killed it.
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And also, I think that advice and teaching someone about life should also die. Let everyone make their own way. Without anyone else's help.
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Even children are born evil, however I still feel kind of innocent and honest to this very day, I don't think that I've strayed too far off my garden path since I've been born. I think I'm consistent.
I know that I've always been filled with the capacity for hate, I don't think that I'm a very caring and nurturing person in the way that a nurse or doctor supposedly is, the idea of slavishly self-sacrificing myself for some ideal that I vaguely agree/disagree with, for what I see as "the other's interests", or for some trinket is entirely pointless to me and provides me with absolutely zero motivation.
I think that I can embrace my destructive tendencies for a positive effect, I do have a sense of righteous justice, no fancy ideal like Communism which leads to disastrous outcomes, just something simplistic like preventing murder/corruption, which I don't think would make the World a worse place all things considered.
Many of us most probably fantasize about and have a complex for being a saviour, about doing good deeds. I like the idea of saving a child from a thug or preventing someone from being raped, especially if it means that I can utilize my capability to be violent. Yes, it's partially selfish desire on my part, if you're generous you could say that it's 50/50 with the other half simply being good.
I'm definitely the sort of person who'd sign up to go on a Crusade.
Would I come back disillusioned or wracked with nightmarish memories? Maybe, maybe not, but that's besides the point.
Even though it's impossible due to various reasons: "Live each day as if it were your last" - Marcus Aurelius
I.E. As long as you have a good time that's all that matters, have fun.
I know that I've always been filled with the capacity for hate, I don't think that I'm a very caring and nurturing person in the way that a nurse or doctor supposedly is, the idea of slavishly self-sacrificing myself for some ideal that I vaguely agree/disagree with, for what I see as "the other's interests", or for some trinket is entirely pointless to me and provides me with absolutely zero motivation.
I think that I can embrace my destructive tendencies for a positive effect, I do have a sense of righteous justice, no fancy ideal like Communism which leads to disastrous outcomes, just something simplistic like preventing murder/corruption, which I don't think would make the World a worse place all things considered.
Many of us most probably fantasize about and have a complex for being a saviour, about doing good deeds. I like the idea of saving a child from a thug or preventing someone from being raped, especially if it means that I can utilize my capability to be violent. Yes, it's partially selfish desire on my part, if you're generous you could say that it's 50/50 with the other half simply being good.
I'm definitely the sort of person who'd sign up to go on a Crusade.
Would I come back disillusioned or wracked with nightmarish memories? Maybe, maybe not, but that's besides the point.
Even though it's impossible due to various reasons: "Live each day as if it were your last" - Marcus Aurelius
I.E. As long as you have a good time that's all that matters, have fun.
Weird question. Most of ppl can remember ignorance, not innocence. Human offsprings always go trail and error ways. They taste every restrain, ever border. They break, harm, lie, let of thier emotions in a physical way. Hatred, malice, envy. Ten times daily, at least.
Yes, you can try to forget all of this, but this not make you innocent. Your later experience based on this, child`s acts. It`s always with you, even you don`t want remember it.
But a grown person can make himself innocent. Stop judging yourself. Take care of yourself and your needs so that they do not grow into manic urges. Be at peace with the world. Maybe you can`t do all of it all the time, but you can do it for yourself sometimes. Be free from the passions, happy and ... innocent.
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Who exactly are you talking about? My generation has watched all the younger generations shit on every single tradition, good or bad, that was passed on.
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First question: yes
Third question: partially (once the knowledge is there, real innocence is impossible)
second question is just extension of first.
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Well, as someone who went to juvie I'm fairly confident I am a far better person as an adult, degenerate or no.
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I remember being in junior high and shaming students for watching porn in the class lol.
I even remember the first time I jerked off, I was so shocked that I could actually control when semen came out my peen, prior to that it was only in during wet dreams.
sigh, if only that naive kid knew what kinda shit he'd be into as an adult.
Even as kids I think we all knew about hatred, malice and envy, however, we were just much quicker to forgive.
Never did drugs so I can't speak on that.
I even remember the first time I jerked off, I was so shocked that I could actually control when semen came out my peen, prior to that it was only in during wet dreams.
sigh, if only that naive kid knew what kinda shit he'd be into as an adult.
Even as kids I think we all knew about hatred, malice and envy, however, we were just much quicker to forgive.
Never did drugs so I can't speak on that.
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I only had it once, too, when I was in school. It is a pity that there is no such thing anymore
