HTML Dune – Breeding a Dynasty [v0.1.1] [lmno]

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Should we change the artstyle to the new version posted [here](/post-12150541)?

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SymbioticLife

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You CAN do pretty multi person scenes, but it's an absolute bitch and requires a few factors.

1. Good "anchor" characters that the AI is familiar with (if you're using pony it's familiar with a number of characters already)

2. A good understanding of how to properly seperate out the two characters, there's a guide on how to do this that works fairly well on civitai but it requires several secondary tools.

3. Brute force, at the end of the day you're still going to need to pump out many hundreds (in some cases potentially thousands, depending on how many images you actually want for the scene) of images to complete a single multi person scene that has consistency and quality to any degree, that's just the reality even with the aforementioned steps.

4. Also you'll still undoubtedly have to edit a bunch of stuff in post, get acquainted with photoshop and similar tools (including tools available on the webui) and be ready to spend potentially hours dealing with messed up eyes, messed up hands, cum decals in the wrong places or not enough of it, etc.

And of course it should go without saying, but at the end of the day the product you get will still be below that the quality of a highly talented artist, and below the consistency of just about any decent artist. So why use AI art? Because most indie porn game devs (for many of whom it's a hobby or side gig) can't afford even a decent artist, let alone a highly skilled one. I think as AI continues to improve you're going to see a lot more AI porn games and see them do a lot more cool stuff with it, ultimately though high level art will always be superior.
 
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lmno

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And of course it should go without saying, but at the end of the day the product you get will still be below that the quality of a highly talented artist, and below the consistency of just about any decent artist. So why use AI art? Because most indie porn game devs (for many of whom it's a hobby or side gig) can't afford even a decent artist, let alone a highly skilled one. I think as AI continues to improve you're going to see a lot more AI porn games and see them do a lot more cool stuff with it, ultimately though high level art will always be superior.
This is all true, hence the recent decision to cut back on the amount of ai art (as mentioned by my co-developer, reynold, here). Going forward we will only have art assets for backgrounds and character "sprites", all the scenes will be text only as it was taking too much time out of development of other aspects of the game.

I can't afford to pay an artist out of my own pocket to work on the game and seeing as this game is free, we will just have to cope with majority text-based scenes.
 
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JJJ84

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An interesting . Not sure if useful though.
Most likely won't be useful unless either one (or both) of lmno or reynold.biplane are ready to learn how to render through HS.
Besides, if they're planning to learn HS, they might as well just go big and do full fledged HS games with always renders while they're at it.

Just doing mostly text with one still HS render every now and then just won't be sufficient to most people given there's just so many full fledged HS games out there.
 

Arnav Dasari

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Well, that's not such a hard task. A couple hours would be enough, I think. What will be a problem is finding the specific Dune-like maps, items and closing, or teaching AI to add such details automatically (like some patterns on a plain dress). Plus teaching AI to that consistent style they were using.
Edit: also speaking about specifically patterns on clothing, the F95 version of HS2 includes a mod that lets changing textures pretty much on the fly.
 

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i think i prefer the gameplan Imno and Reynold have in that the text will cover the sex scenes with polished AI art to cover character portraits and backgrounds. i think i'd prefer one picture per sex scene but i'm fine with just text as well, it takes hard work if you want to make AI sex look good and not freaky
 

lmno

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Well, that's not such a hard task. A couple hours would be enough, I think. What will be a problem is finding the specific Dune-like maps, items and closing, or teaching AI to add such details automatically (like some patterns on a plain dress). Plus teaching AI to that consistent style they were using.
Edit: also speaking about specifically patterns on clothing, the F95 version of HS2 includes a mod that lets changing textures pretty much on the fly.
The main problem is clothing and dune-like architecture/characters. What HS2 mod would be able to generate a navigator? Or a sand worm? Or a sand trout?
 

Finuee

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The main problem is clothing and dune-like architecture/characters. What HS2 mod would be able to generate a navigator? Or a sand worm? Or a sand trout?
Yep, that means those things would need to be 3D-modelled, which is *very* time-consuming and requires those skills. And that's even considering HS allows for imports, which I don't even know if it does. Doesn't really seem feasible, tbh.

That's what I've always loved about hand-made 2D graphics. Once you're good enough, you can (mostly) draw whatever you can imagine. With 3D, creating new things require either vast amounts of time, or someone having already done it. Which feels very limiting.
 
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I don't remember if I proposed that before in this thread, but may be you guys could create the characters and the images you need in some 3D game poser - like Honey Select or Virt-A-Mate. You could even use these images as a base for further AI enhancement. For example a game called 'Sofia's Dark Fantasies' uses exactly this technique.

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THIS 100%! This is easy af and David himself shared Jessica and Alia models you could use!
 
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