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Pantavloump

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so if i reroll enough times...itll happen eventually?
Honestly I'm not extremely sure, I know there's a blowjob scene the night Trina hits corruption stage 2 but the rest is kind of gimmicky. It's random but at the same time I grinded the night scenes for a little bit and you can really just get 8+ nights where it's the same exact scene.
 

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I can mostly agree with you on the other part, but for this... if it were just a matter of imagination BBQ does not really have any excuses since people are VERY active on his ci-en in giving feedback, comments, encouragement, disapproval and ideas. If BBQ considered even a fraction of them nebel would certainly be much better.
I'd say the lack in quantity despite good quality comes from funding and how much BBQ is willing to commission an artist to draw(because... all the games BBQ makes have artists working on the cgs not BBQ himself). Can't really say its his fault but it's definitely a situation he could've improved.


It's funny because even now people in the ci-en comments are giving out their opinions on what BBQ should add/change in the priestess game, from what I've seen many of those comments actually have very good advice or innovative ideas but at the current stage of development, it's just impossible for BBQ to do anything.
But its interesting isn't it? When he made the 10th normal sex scene he should have thought "Hmm, maybe people want to see some variation and unique scenes?" But i know he can't follow everyones advice all the time. Some can be good, others can sound good but be impractical, others are simply too late. He'd never finish anything.
 

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The recurring trend in BBQ's games is that the game is really just focused on the NTR side, the pure love routes or normal routes are just there as filler mostly, they lack content and don't have many scenes. As mentioned this is because BBQ is locked in on NTR, I absolutely agree with what you said and I really wish BBQ went that extra mile to add a well developped pure love route but given workload circumstances... we will have to make do with what we have.


Forgive me if I sound like a snob or a know-it-all, I don't doubt that you already know all this.
naaah man don't worry you didn't soudn like that, it was a nice chat instead ! ty for sharing these infos
 
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Sorrow4444

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Guys i can only get 2 scenes, 1 with the MC and 1 with the artist, both in the gallery with one animated of a bj, i am losing something? if thats the case, can someone please share a save to be able to see the scenes? ty in advance and sorry for my bad english
 

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Guys i can only get 2 scenes, 1 with the MC and 1 with the artist, both in the gallery with one animated of a bj, i am losing something? if thats the case, can someone please share a save to be able to see the scenes? ty in advance and sorry for my bad english
There should be a save in the provided files in which all scenes are accessible. As for your query, what game version are you using?
 

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Has anyone worked out how to continue the main story into the Sunset Forest ?
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I have all the components but don't get an option to make it. OR are is there a special way to use the recipe ?
 

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Its so over. The dev has fallen off. The succubus is so good, they kinda fumble neiber but still enjoiyable. However both red light district and this new game have been the new low.
 

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Its so over. The dev has fallen off. The succubus is so good, they kinda fumble neiber but still enjoiyable. However both red light district and this new game have been the new low.
Red light district was pretty much just a quick cashgrab to fund other projects I think(I kinda liked the mc's design and stuff so I'm saddened the game was just so "incomplete")
As for this one, we're still in the demo phase so we can't really do anything but wait. Chances are that you're right and this game won't end up any good but right now we don't really know yet.(we sorta do cuz the mechanics aren't great)

Anyways, we can only hope.
 
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To be honest, the real sad part is that the game BBQ wants to focus on—an FPS—is probably going to suck 99%. It's 3D slop, and it takes way too much effort to play a Titanfall-like FPS just to see a scene. I'm up for an FPS-type game, but:

An H-game shouldn't require that much effort (just my take).
If it were a simple FPS, it might still be okay, but a game like that would need completely different skills and mechanics—way too much for an H-game.
So yeah, I’m pretty sure it’s going to be bad, 100%. I really hope I’m wrong, but it just doesn’t feel right.

it would be better if it was just a normal game instead of h-game fixing Serious game with h-game is best way to dissapoint both side's player (my view again)
 
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To be honest, the real sad part is that the game BBQ wants to focus on—an FPS—is probably going to suck 99%. It's 3D slop, and it takes way too much effort to play a Titanfall-like FPS just to see a scene. I'm up for an FPS-type game, but:

An H-game shouldn't require that much effort (just my take).
If it were a simple FPS, it might still be okay, but a game like that would need completely different skills and mechanics—way too much for an H-game.
So yeah, I’m pretty sure it’s going to be bad, 100%. I really hope I’m wrong, but it just doesn’t feel right.

it would be better if it was just a normal game instead of h-game fixing Serious game with h-game is best way to dissapoint both side's player (my view again)
Imma stop you right there, because your opinion is far from fact. Serious games with H have their own sizable followings for any number of reasons, but it's serious games in particular that are great for NTR stuff. Why? Because when playing as the MC, it takes actual skill and effort to prevent the NTR. Story-telling is more than just the words in the game. It's in its design, its images, the things you see and the atmosphere that is generated, and gameplay itself is also part of the story telling. It's one thing to read that someone has a hard time, it's quite another to play the same thing and essentially see it with your own eyes... something that even people that don't self insert can appreciate.

Nebel had more than a few fans that wanted it to be harder, more complex in both mechanics and the necessary actions to protect Kana. More than a few people were hoping that this game would be harder, though from what I've seen, it feels like preventing the corruption and whatnot will be piss easy, which to me is a disappointment.

Leane 2, for all its flaws, is acknowledged as great NTR game specifically because it's hard, and people still made mods to make it even harder. That dev's upcoming game, Bride and Dungeon, also looks like it'll be fairly complex and it will require skill to manage properly.

Someone already brought up Seed of the Dead and its popularity... but I will mention that in some ways, that game is a terrible H-game, with no unified gallery and plenty of issues... but even with those flaws, it's also a really fun game that many enjoy. Including me.

So yeah, sure, the people that want smut NOW don't care for difficult and complex gameplay... But there's plenty of us that want it, and there's usually a gallery unlock or something out there for the guys that just want galleries with extra steps.

Personally, I hope that the complexity of this game will be higher than we've seen so far, and I hope that BBQ won't cut corners for the FPS either... even if playing that game is probably gonna suck for me, because I suck at FPS games. XD
 

Pantavloump

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To be honest, the real sad part is that the game BBQ wants to focus on—an FPS—is probably going to suck 99%. It's 3D slop, and it takes way too much effort to play a Titanfall-like FPS just to see a scene. I'm up for an FPS-type game, but:

An H-game shouldn't require that much effort (just my take).
If it were a simple FPS, it might still be okay, but a game like that would need completely different skills and mechanics—way too much for an H-game.
So yeah, I’m pretty sure it’s going to be bad, 100%. I really hope I’m wrong, but it just doesn’t feel right.

it would be better if it was just a normal game instead of h-game fixing Serious game with h-game is best way to dissapoint both side's player (my view again)
I'm not strongly against 3D porn in itself, some of it isn't too bad, however BBQ practically throwing away 2 other games to work on the third just sounds stupid to me. Also from my understanding there's going to be some 3D porn in the game but there will also be normal cgs. The issue for me right now is that realistically given BBQ's work efficiency thus far with this game I actually cannot visualize him making a complete game. I feel like he's going to run out of time and half ass/rush the rest.

As for the serious/unserious games, I think there is merit in both, unserious games are easy to digest and easy to get into/out of because they're just really simple and if I'm not really prepared for a dedicated game experience, an unserious game is most likely what I want. At the end of the day these are just porn games, we're here to goon not here to read some discourse on existential dread and the value of existing disguised as a porn game, if I want that I can just go play something like Nier(which is a gooner game but not a porn game).
Serious games however also have their good points. I'm just going to interpret serious games as games that take themselves seriously and at least tries to have high quality. Any H game where the story is important is to an extent forced to be serious because story adds flavour to the game and differentiates it from a compilation of fuck scenes. As the user above me said, NTR games sorta are forced to be serious because the game dev is trying to emulate a feeling of betrayal or guilt or some form of emotion with the player and that can't be done if the game is just terribly written and designed.
 
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Imma stop you right there,


I guess I phrased myself poorly. I didn’t mean that “hard” games are bad—in fact, the harder it is to stop NTR, the better the payoff. I actually like that. What I meant was “skill-based” gameplay specifically.


For example, Leane is one of my favorite games. The way its story and gameplay blend is great—it shows you how strong and helpless you are at the same time. That’s an excellent way to do NTR, and sadly, there aren’t many games like it.


When I say “serious” games, I mean you can't play a Titanfall-style game the same way you play an RPG Maker game, a Leane-type game, or something like Fire Emblem (not sure what genre that falls under exactly). I don’t know how others usually play H-games, but I mostly play while lying down, using only my mouse (I’ve got extra buttons, so I rarely touch the keyboard).


You can still play something like Seed of the Dead at your own pace. What I’m getting at is this: the challenging part of an H-game should be the strategy or tactics—something that makes you think—not a test of your reflexes or FPS skills.


That’s just my take. It’s not about “hard” vs. “easy,” it’s about the style of gameplay.


And to be clear, I’m not against FPS in H-games. There was this Japanese NTR FPS—kind of horror-ish? You explored a hotel and heard lewd sounds behind doors, and peeking through them was a pretty cool experience. So I’m totally open to NTR FPS, just not that kind.


I played BBQ’s FPS demo around a year ago, and honestly, it was awful. I get that it was early in development, but I’m talking about the gameplay itself—not bugs or polish. It just didn’t feel right.
 
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Serious games however also have their good points.

I should add that I also enjoy when an H-game’s story is serious. Goofy NTR is everywhere, and most of it is so bad you don't even feel anything when the NTR happens.


But just to clarify: the seriousness I’m talking about is in the gameplay. I don’t think the game should challenge the player with mechanics or skill-based stuff—it should challenge the mind, not reflexes.


And no, I don’t mean puzzles either—most of those are usually pretty dumb. I’m talking about games that make you think in terms of decisions, consequences, emotional weight, that kind of thing.
 

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I should add that I also enjoy when an H-game’s story is serious. Goofy NTR is everywhere, and most of it is so bad you don't even feel anything when the NTR happens.


But just to clarify: the seriousness I’m talking about is in the gameplay. I don’t think the game should challenge the player with mechanics or skill-based stuff—it should challenge the mind, not reflexes.


And no, I don’t mean puzzles either—most of those are usually pretty dumb. I’m talking about games that make you think in terms of decisions, consequences, emotional weight, that kind of thing.
Oh yeah that's actually very reasonable(and one of the reasons I think turn based games are very fair).
 
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