VN Ren'Py Falling Undercover: Nox Syndicate [v0.06.0] [Azienda]

[Kenjisuke]

And 15 episodes is for the full game with all the alternate endings, so I imagine the main story will end in episode 11 or 12.

 

[Fitharia]

At start I liked it, also thought there be different paths, but seems the choices have not that much impact. So again this is just another oblivious mc and a slutty agent girlfriend who falls easy, believing she does it for her boyfriend. I see in the end bf dies of the poison and gf becomes right hand slut boss of the nox syndicate. So nothing for me, I love more ntr with a better story and girl not so easy falls and the mc not really so oblivious and get angry she a cheating slut.

Edit: what i mean is you can choose to spy/voyeur on your girl seeing Vargas having sex with someone, meaning oblivious, or you can choose the other choices and just not spy on them and do what ya supposed to do, all the while you don't know at all what the gf doing. While at gf perspectives there are no choices at all for her to decide what she wanna do, what ever Vargas want from her will happen, so basicly unavoidable ntr,.

This sort stories are made in different themes 100s of time. There are lucky still few gem ntr games out that are heart tearing hurtfull and play with real feelings, but this sort stories doesn't, as you actualy already expect what will happen so the thrill is gone.

 

[Miracle.]

I just finished playing through the entire game, and wow it was handled exceptionally well HOWEVER I have a big worry ever since finishing the 4th Episode.

As I was playing through the different choices in Luna's POV something caught my attention in the codex.

Spoiler: Codex

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[Terix3]

At start I liked it, also thought there be different paths, but seems the choices have not that much impact. So again this is just another oblivious mc and a slutty agent girlfriend who falls easy, believing she does it for her boyfriend. I see in the end bf dies of the poison and gf becomes right hand slut boss of the nox syndicate. So nothing for me, I love more ntr with a better story and girl not so easy falls and the mc not really so oblivious and get angry she a cheating slut.

Edit: what i mean is you can choose to spy/voyeur on your girl seeing Vargas having sex with someone, meaning oblivious, or you can choose the other choices and just not spy on them and do what ya supposed to do, all the while you don't know at all what the gf doing. While at gf perspectives there are no choices at all for her to decide what she wanna do, what ever Vargas want from her will happen, so basicly unavoidable ntr,.

This sort stories are made in different themes 100s of time. There are lucky still few gem ntr games out that are heart tearing hurtfull and play with real feelings, but this sort stories doesn't, as you actualy already expect what will happen so the thrill is gone.

If MC knows she is cheating he is either willing cuck /ntrs or story ends. I hate the most games like you describe where you can make MC discover girl is cheating but you can't actually take any action against it. Wtf is that supposed to be? Game is sitting on the fence where MC is not technically into it and he is sad but he does nothing and just keeps watching ? lol that is so stupid.

It is called unavoidable netorare for a reason, yes she is gonna fall. Non the less the process is exciting and that why we here. Also I don't know about it not invoking feelings, some people stated the contrary.

 

[Miracle.]

At start I liked it, also thought there be different paths, but seems the choices have not that much impact. So again this is just another oblivious mc and a slutty agent girlfriend who falls easy, believing she does it for her boyfriend. I see in the end bf dies of the poison and gf becomes right hand slut boss of the nox syndicate. So nothing for me, I love more ntr with a better story and girl not so easy falls and the mc not really so oblivious and get angry she a cheating slut.

Edit: what i mean is you can choose to spy/voyeur on your girl seeing Vargas having sex with someone, meaning oblivious, or you can choose the other choices and just not spy on them and do what ya supposed to do, all the while you don't know at all what the gf doing. While at gf perspectives there are no choices at all for her to decide what she wanna do, what ever Vargas want from her will happen, so basicly unavoidable ntr,.

This sort stories are made in different themes 100s of time. There are lucky still few gem ntr games out that are heart tearing hurtfull and play with real feelings, but this sort stories doesn't, as you actualy already expect what will happen so the thrill is gone.

Honestly, Azienda could've followed what hangover cat did in his works. Since your choices ACTUALLY matter outside of few dialogue changes from the characters itself.

 

[Miracle.]

If MC knows she is cheating he is either willing cuck /ntrs or story ends. I hate the most games like you describe where you can make MC discover girl is cheating but you can't actually take any action against it. Wtf is that supposed to be? Game is sitting on the fence where MC is not technically into it and he is sad but he does nothing and just keeps watching ? lol that is so stupid.

It is called unavoidable netorare for a reason, yes she is gonna fall. Non the less the process is exciting and that why we here. Also I don't know about it not invoking feelings, some people stated the contrary.

I think its more to do of how the choices in the game impacts how the characters will behave outside of a few dialogue changes.

For example: Vargas doesn't need to change his behavior into a super good guy by picking Choice A but rather change his behavior that is well within his character.

 

[Terix3]

Honestly, Azienda could've followed what hangover cat did in his works. Since your choices ACTUALLY matter outside of few dialogue changes from the characters itself.

What are you on about ? In first promise had plenty of small choices that weren't doing much at the time of update but they were giving player some agency. Later some of them had impact on route split. It is probably what we have here.
In the second promise there are no choices until it is route split and you have "go to infirmary or not" "go to store or subway" so no player agency and those choices could very well say "Route 1" "Route 2

I think its more to do of how the choices in the game impacts how the characters will behave outside of a few dialogue changes.

For example: Vargas doesn't need to change his behavior into a super good guy by picking Choice A but rather change his behavior that is well within his character.

Bigger choices will come when there is time for route split. Or maybe it will be based on the smaller choices so far, or both we will see. But it is really beyond the capacity of small team to have multiple routes going simultaneously throughout the course of whole game, like let's on one path Vargas knows they are spies and on another he doesn't. It would be much much harder to write and impossible task for art side and people are already impatient for action.

 

[Fitharia]

If MC knows she is cheating he is either willing cuck /ntrs or story ends. I hate the most games like you describe where you can make MC discover girl is cheating but you can't actually take any action against it. Wtf is that supposed to be? Game is sitting on the fence where MC is not technically into it and he is sad but he does nothing and just keeps watching ? lol that is so stupid.

It is called unavoidable netorare for a reason, yes she is gonna fall. Non the less the process is exciting and that why we here. Also I don't know about it not invoking feelings, some people stated the contrary.

You should try Love & Jealousy, that is the kind of NTR i like, messing with peoples feelings, making you angry, unlike here, you already expect what coming and it will only lead more downfall to her till she become a mindless fuckdoll, that is so boring as that is done way to many times.

 

[KillerHgamer]

At start I liked it, also thought there be different paths, but seems the choices have not that much impact. So again this is just another oblivious mc and a slutty agent girlfriend who falls easy, believing she does it for her boyfriend. I see in the end bf dies of the poison and gf becomes right hand slut boss of the nox syndicate. So nothing for me, I love more ntr with a better story and girl not so easy falls and the mc not really so oblivious and get angry she a cheating slut.

Edit: what i mean is you can choose to spy/voyeur on your girl seeing Vargas having sex with someone, meaning oblivious, or you can choose the other choices and just not spy on them and do what ya supposed to do, all the while you don't know at all what the gf doing. While at gf perspectives there are no choices at all for her to decide what she wanna do, what ever Vargas want from her will happen, so basicly unavoidable ntr,.

This sort stories are made in different themes 100s of time. There are lucky still few gem ntr games out that are heart tearing hurtfull and play with real feelings, but this sort stories doesn't, as you actualy already expect what will happen so the thrill is gone.

To be fair, from what ive heard, since the game will have multiple endings, azienda said that theyre planning to make aiden choices affect which ending you will get, the choices dont do much for now because i guess theyre focusing more on progressing the episodes with the animations and cg, but at least they confirmed that the choices will have meaning in future updates.

Also, this may open possibilities to fix the problems you mentioned, because despite that they already said that the game is unavoidable ntr (go to first pages of the thread) later on they could change some things depending on the feedback and the attention people give to the game as time passes (like how they considered adding pregnancy to the game when a user asked them on their reddit account), so its possible that not only they add choices for luna but also even add a good ending where its possible to avoid luna getting corrupted and save her relationship with aiden, but of course it all depends on what azienda chooses to do in the future, so all we can do for now is wait and give them our support and feedback respectfully.

 

[Fitharia]

To be fair, from what ive heard, since the game will have multiple endings, azienda said that theyre planning to make aiden choices affect which ending you will get, the choices dont do much for now because i guess theyre focusing more on progressing the episodes with the animations and cg, but at least they confirmed that the choices will have meaning in future updates.

Also, this may open possibilities to fix the problems you mentioned, because despite that they already said that the game is unavoidable ntr (go to first pages of the thread) later on they could change some things depending on the feedback and the attention people give to the game as time passes (like how they considered adding pregnancy to the game when a user asked them on their reddit account), so its possible that not only they add choices for luna but also even add a good ending where its possible to avoid luna getting corrupted and save her relationship with aiden, but of course it all depends on what azienda chooses to do in the future, so all we can do for now is wait and give them our support and feedback respectfully.

I know there be alternate endings, but in the end she will be so many times fucked by the Vargas, that as Aiden I would choose to kill her and him. I don't even feel mystery ntr at all like promised, I just know what coming and it just good to see some hot sex scenes to have some fun with, and in the end ya can let the mc die coze he lost anyway. Now where Love & Jealousy really plays with your mind and ruins your feelings and make you angry. I love that feeling in ntr, sadly don't have that here.

 

[Terix3]

You should try Love & Jealousy, that is the kind of NTR i like, messing with peoples feelings, making you angry, unlike here, you already expect what coming and it will only lead more downfall to her till she become a mindless fuckdoll, that is so boring as that is done way to many times.

From the description : "An NTR game written for people who don't like NTR" . FYI I don't self insert and I can already feel the game is made for those that do, also 3D AI CG.

 

[Fitharia]

From the description : "An NTR game written for people who don't like NTR" . FYI I don't self insert and I can already feel the game is made for those that do, also 3D AI CG.

Yea i find it silly that description as there is ntr in it, but the main part is playing with feelings, making you angry, unlike here, you already know what coming and either end be mc dies, girl becomes Vargas slut, or Mc survives and girlfriend stays with him but be human sex toilet. Though in Love & Jealousy the girl is the same but tries to get better but guys trying to ruin her but all more in mystery style and depending on how you respond it happens or don't happen.

 

[Miracle.]

What are you on about ? In first promise had plenty of small choices that weren't doing much at the time of update but they were giving player some agency. Later some of them had impact on route split. It is probably what we have here.
In the second promise there are no choices until it is route split and you have "go to infirmary or not" "go to store or subway" so no player agency and those choices could very well say "Route 1" "Route 2

I meant that Azienda could incorporate the things Hangover did in with the first APBLU because I really think that is a good system to make it have variety so you don't just pick one linear choice to get to one ending.

Of course this is his work, I'm not forcing him to put it in the game just to appease one random dude. He can experiment and try new things to make his works better. Overall I'm fine with the things that's going on with his game, I just hope that he improves the pacing and buildup of the story in which his previous work kinda suffered from.

 

[Terix3]

Yea i find it silly that description as there is ntr in it, but the main part is playing with feelings, making you angry, unlike here, you already know what coming and either end be mc dies, girl becomes Vargas slut, or Mc survives and girlfriend stays with him but be human sex toilet. Though in Love & Jealousy the girl is the same but tries to get better but guys trying to ruin her but all more in mystery style and depending on how you respond it happens or don't happen.

I don't think it is silly, I think it is precisely as said.
You see I think that majority of NTR enjoyers myself included do not look for heartbreaking story, we look for fap material. To that end people want different things, some want more believable story and so it doesn't hurt to write something good. But too much of it also hurts, oh how many times I've seen people complain that game is too wordy or people raging because the story was too much so rather than enjoying it they hated it.

 

[AnyName'llDo]

Good update. Thanks!

 

[Dakudesu]

Azienda, if it not too much to ask, can you do the sex scenes a little shorter? I like the ambientation and the feelings being developed, but i thin the sex scenes are toooo long, like, in the last sex scene they say more than 30 times how hard to get is the fmc and how hard to please she is. I like what i read, but my boner no xd. So that, i think all this text would be better off the sex scenes

 

[Miracle.]

What in the helly

 

[KillerHgamer]

Azienda, if it not too much to ask, can you do the sex scenes a little shorter? I like the ambientation and the feelings being developed, but i thin the sex scenes are toooo long, like, in the last sex scene they say more than 30 times how hard to get is the fmc and how hard to please she is. I like what i read, but my boner no xd. So that, i think all this text would be better off the sex scenes

So let me get this straight, youre on a porn site, on a thread of a porn game, and youre asking the porn game developers to make scenes related to porn shorter?

Let azienda do their awesome work. if you dont like the text and want to please your boner, then press "H" on keyboard pc and the text will be hidden to only show the cg or animation, then you can jerk off all you want until you decide to continue the story

 

[Gu Changge]

there isn´t a MEGA link?

 

[CERVIXPIERCER]

So let me get this straight, youre on a porn site, on a thread of a porn game, and youre asking the porn game developers to make scenes related to porn shorter?

Let azienda do their awesome work. if you dont like the text and want to please your boner, then press "H" on keyboard pc and the text will be hidden to only show the cg or animation, then you can jerk off all you want until you decide to continue the story

I think he's complaining about the repetitive dialogue