cindar

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Ruffy2010 It worked! thank you!

vimmers I'm lazy XD I didn't think I could find the answer to my question in the faq. Sorry

yeah.. idk why i have bought the dress.. i'm regretting it
 

TheLecher

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But one ending for the really decent Monica, who made the least bitchy decisions throughout the game, is well deserved in my opinion.
Cool fair enough, if someone is brave enough to play "good" Monica, might deserve an Hollywood happy ending :cool:
If Monica was always on Melanie`s side, she could have good outbreak from this situation with happy ending with Melanie`s help. Melanie as 218 "agent" can give a conclusion that Monica is a good person ready for self-sacrifice.
I haven't been following this game and this thread from the beginning, but I have been here since the early days of Episode 2, so it's interesting that this is the conversation which finally made me post here. But I decided that I had to throw my 2¢ in on the topic of "happy endings" for Monica.

I have a different take on this. I don't think that a happy ending, in which Monica finally gets everything back, should depend on whether or not she was more decent during the game, or even on whether or not she "learns her lesson." Sure, those things can factor into an ending, but I don't think that they should be the only way for her to reach a happy ending. And here's why I say this: I think it matters more what the player deserves.

Now, I don't mean to say that DecentMonkey should be guided and directed by whatever each player wants from the game. It's his story, and he should tell it as he sees fit. I'm a big advocate for developers not allowing players to hijack their stories. That being said, I do think that there is a big subset of the player base for this game which is persevering in the game in the hope of seeing Monica win, in the end. And I would probably put myself in that group, at least most of the time. I'm fine with all of the degradation and exploitation which Monica and Melanie suffer. I love it. Give me more, please. But I do want to see an ending in which they come out on top. Make them suffer for the entire middle of the story, but let them win in the end.

Sure, Monica is a bitch. If she wasn't, there would be no game. And Monica isn't smart, really. But she's perseverant, and she's ruthless. And those qualities can often produce success. So, after she has persevered through all of the shit, and after she has ruthlessly done anything necessary to get what she wants, I would like to see at least one ending where she gets it all back, whether or not she's been decent, and whether or not she's learned a lesson.

If I were writing the endings for this game, here's how they would go.
  1. There would be an ending in which Monica gets everything back and brutally punishes everyone who made her suffer or humiliated her. She would probably rescue Melanie from Alex, and possibly reward Melanie in some way, because Melanie became her ally and shared in her sufferings, but I would probably leave it up to the player to decide that. This ending would not depend on Monica having been decent from the start, having become more decent during the game, or having learned a lesson.
  2. There would be an ending in which Monica gets everything back, but doesn't punish anyone, or punishes only certain people, such as Victoria and Steve and Biff and Philip (and possibly some others). This ending would be dependent on her not having been decent at the start, but having learned her lesson from the karmic justice of suffering at the hands of those she made to suffer. In this ending, it would not be a player choice to help Melanie out. The Monica who learned her lesson would automatically help Melanie.
  3. There would be an ending for the Monica who was decent from the start. This Monica wouldn't exact vengeance on anyone, but other people would punish those who deserved it, on her behalf. This Monica would also help Melanie automatically. Who she ended up with, if anyone, would probably be down to player choices.
  4. There would be an ending in which Monica goes to the farm. This would be a long ending, with lots of farm content, because it's ridiculous that the farm was introduced almost at the beginning of the game, and we still haven't had any content for it. I understand that this is likely because of Patreon, but it's still a travesty.
  5. There would be an ending in which Monica does not get everything back, but she does escape from Marcus, the farm, and Victoria. Player choice might decide whether she ends up on the street, running the VIP escort service, or living with Ralph.
  6. There would be a "Victoria wins" ending, with Monica and Melanie escaping the farm animal fate, but never escaping from Victoria.
  7. There would be a "Fred wins" ending, with Fred getting Monica's mansion and money, but not her business. He would get rid of Ralph, marry Betty, and make Monica stay on as their maid. He would also welcome Bardy home from college, because fuck Patreon.
  8. There would a "Steve wins" ending, with Steve taking over the fashion magazine, Tiffany managing Steve's old office for him, and Monica being forced to go on catering to both of them.
  9. I would also include a ninth ending, in which Monica, with the support of the investors, escapes from Marcus and Victoria, but is not fully restored. The investors keep her on as a figurehead at the magazine, but she has no real authority. She somehow escapes having to marry any of the investors, but ends up having to keep them all satisfied, and also gets passed around by all of the office personnel, who have learned that she's just a puppet without any power.
Obviously, this isn't what will happen, but that's my wish list for endings.
 

Ostego

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I haven't been following this game and this thread from the beginning, but I have been here since the early days of Episode 2, so it's interesting that this is the conversation which finally made me post here. But I decided that I had to throw my 2¢ in on the topic of "happy endings" for Monica.

I have a different take on this. I don't think that a happy ending, in which Monica finally gets everything back, should depend on whether or not she was more decent during the game, or even on whether or not she "learns her lesson." Sure, those things can factor into an ending, but I don't think that they should be the only way for her to reach a happy ending. And here's why I say this: I think it matters more what the player deserves.

Now, I don't mean to say that DecentMonkey should be guided and directed by whatever each player wants from the game. It's his story, and he should tell it as he sees fit. I'm a big advocate for developers not allowing players to hijack their stories. That being said, I do think that there is a big subset of the player base for this game which is persevering in the game in the hope of seeing Monica win, in the end. And I would probably put myself in that group, at least most of the time. I'm fine with all of the degradation and exploitation which Monica and Melanie suffer. I love it. Give me more, please. But I do want to see an ending in which they come out on top. Make them suffer for the entire middle of the story, but let them win in the end.

Sure, Monica is a bitch. If she wasn't, there would be no game. And Monica isn't smart, really. But she's perseverant, and she's ruthless. And those qualities can often produce success. So, after she has persevered through all of the shit, and after she has ruthlessly done anything necessary to get what she wants, I would like to see at least one ending where she gets it all back, whether or not she's been decent, and whether or not she's learned a lesson.

If I were writing the endings for this game, here's how they would go.
  1. There would be an ending in which Monica gets everything back and brutally punishes everyone who made her suffer or humiliated her. She would probably rescue Melanie from Alex, and possibly reward Melanie in some way, because Melanie became her ally and shared in her sufferings, but I would probably leave it up to the player to decide that. This ending would not depend on Monica having been decent from the start, having become more decent during the game, or having learned a lesson.
  2. There would be an ending in which Monica gets everything back, but doesn't punish anyone, or punishes only certain people, such as Victoria and Steve and Biff and Philip (and possibly some others). This ending would be dependent on her not having been decent at the start, but having learned her lesson from the karmic justice of suffering at the hands of those she made to suffer. In this ending, it would not be a player choice to help Melanie out. The Monica who learned her lesson would automatically help Melanie.
  3. There would be an ending for the Monica who was decent from the start. This Monica wouldn't exact vengeance on anyone, but other people would punish those who deserved it, on her behalf. This Monica would also help Melanie automatically. Who she ended up with, if anyone, would probably be down to player choices.
  4. There would be an ending in which Monica goes to the farm. This would be a long ending, with lots of farm content, because it's ridiculous that the farm was introduced almost at the beginning of the game, and we still haven't had any content for it. I understand that this is likely because of Patreon, but it's still a travesty.
  5. There would be an ending in which Monica does not get everything back, but she does escape from Marcus, the farm, and Victoria. Player choice might decide whether she ends up on the street, running the VIP escort service, or living with Ralph.
  6. There would be a "Victoria wins" ending, with Monica and Melanie escaping the farm animal fate, but never escaping from Victoria.
  7. There would be a "Fred wins" ending, with Fred getting Monica's mansion and money, but not her business. He would get rid of Ralph, marry Betty, and make Monica stay on as their maid. He would also welcome Bardy home from college, because fuck Patreon.
  8. There would a "Steve wins" ending, with Steve taking over the fashion magazine, Tiffany managing Steve's old office for him, and Monica being forced to go on catering to both of them.
  9. I would also include a ninth ending, in which Monica, with the support of the investors, escapes from Marcus and Victoria, but is not fully restored. The investors keep her on as a figurehead at the magazine, but she has no real authority. She somehow escapes having to marry any of the investors, but ends up having to keep them all satisfied, and also gets passed around by all of the office personnel, who have learned that she's just a puppet without any power.
Obviously, this isn't what will happen, but that's my wish list for endings.
too many good and fundamental endings. And similar in base. I think 4-5 of endings will be in sub plots- like bad end in Phillips basement, Steve’s office, home plot, bar. It will be more clear in 2-3 updates, cuz DM can merge plots like it was done with Julia and home plots.
 

Ostego

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Btw even Steve`s route is merged with escort now. (+Tiffany)

Victoria+Melanie envolved (i hope) in investors main route of the game. (Pure angel and bad friend are main for judge role for castings.)
So, in this way all routes leads to 3-4 ultraroutes))

And this is best in this game, you cann`t predict that will be next.
 
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Birdnman993

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Bitches have to suffer, which is why I don't crave 8 happy endings for bitchy Monica and will gladly appreciate her trip to the Farm 218 and other such things like endless slavery at Philip's. But one ending for the really decent Monica, who made the least bitchy decisions throughout the game, is well deserved in my opinion. After all, why introduce a separate decency scale and carefully record every decision Monica has made since the first episode if it's supposed to end with a pissed and stoned prostitute lying in a slum gutter?
Honestly, from the way the story is built up to now, I find it very difficult for Monica to recover her previous life without having to answer to anyone, she practically has the whole world as an enemy and the few alliances she has are in a fine thread depending on Monica reciprocates except for mommy and marcus in the revenge route (one of my favorite moments where monica threatens to autogameover which at this point seems like a viable way out of all her problems).

As for the end, I would say that Monica could get her things back, but at the cost of being tied to the will of others would be the price for clinging to that lifestyle that made her a bitch. I think it is for wanting to return to her previous life is which continues to plunge her deeper into the deepest abyss, so it seems logical to me that she would really want to be free, she would have to abandon everything to start from scratch.

An ending that I hope is possible is that in the end Monica has to marry Julia (obviously with some clause so that Monica doesn't run away) in order to leave and have to live with her forever xDDD
Compared to what she has to put up with everyone else I think this is a very viable solution.
 
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Ostego

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Birdnman993 in old Julia`s single route it was one of predictable endgame. Now with merged with Fred and home route...i`ll bet on Fred, not on Julia. Mb threesome. Betty will be with Ralph for 99%.
 

Stan5851

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Oh, I did not know you could chose a "good" Monica path :unsure:
LoL, I thought the only path is Monica bitch :D

<<Ending is a slum gutter>> (y) :love:

Cool fair enough, if someone is brave enough to play "good" Monica, might deserve an Hollywood happy ending :cool:
I always go through the game twice, first on the conventionally decent route and then on the so-called "depraved" route, where Monica is a total bitch without any restrictions. But yes, the first one (the decent one) is more of a priority for me, as it happens.) I think everything has to be earned. DM still has time to let Monica change for the better (stop being a bitch). If that doesn't happen, then a Hollywood ending where she gets everything back, but remains as bitchy as she was would be meaningless.
 
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cindar

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Asking for more advices, hopefully for the last time, i know i'm bothering you, sorry ç_ç

Following ruffy2010's tip, I begin the ep3 for check if I'm missing something, the game ask me if Monica showed her breast to Victoria for a photo but idk how trigger this event, I've tried to not pay her the 5k $ but Victoria order monica to lick her butt (for the second time) as punishment, so i should continue to not pay her and at some point this event begin or there is something else?

And how i can unlock all the scenes with biff? I have 1000 corruption and i've completed all the photoshots and events, but if i do a photoshoot with one of the firsts dress and go to casting the options for do the lewdest things (sit on biff's legs, anal and more even with the secretary) are locked and no requirments are showed
 

Bobo137

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Currently I´m playing Episode 3-16. I´ve got 4 missions left:
- Home: Monica´s personal driver
- Office: philip the investor
- Office: steve the investor
- Julia: secret meeting

philips mission will lead to the end of the episode, steves mission is marked for episode 4. I can´t figure out how to start Julias mission or Freds mission. Perhaps I´m through Freds content, but why is the mission still there? And I´m definitely not through Julias content because I haven´t met her.

But most important, I can´t get to the event, when Monica gets her fashion magazine back. That´s the scene, I´m interested in most. If I´m in the office for a photoshot, there is Mr. Campbell talking to the horny photographer. Campbell tells me, I have to convince the other investors, aka Steve and Philips, before he can hold a board-meeting which he promised would be needed for firing Biff. What am I missing? If I start Episode 4, Monica is head of the fashion magazine again.

Can someone help me what to do? Or perhaps someone has a savegame for me?
 
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Ostego

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Currently I´m playing Episode 3-16. I´ve got 4 missions left:
- Home: Monica´s personal driver
There will a lot more missions in this route after

philips mission will lead to the end of the episode - it leads to continuation of quest in ep.4 as separate route (yet), after it will be done, it will lead to investors meeting in v.16 (now you can choose to give 30k or promise a service to continue main plot, just make a separate save)

steves mission is marked for episode 4.
it`s a bug. Scene is playable in ep.3. Solution is in FAQ. (and more answers too)

I can´t figure out how to start Julias mission or Freds mission. Perhaps I´m through Freds content, but why is the mission still there? And I´m definitely not through Julias content because I haven´t met her.

In v.16 Fred and Julia`s storys merged. So try to find a way to play her scenes or you won`t continue this route.

But most important, I can´t get to the event, when Monica gets her fashion magazine back. That´s the scene, I´m interested in most.

You should get Steve`s and Phillip`s agreement to be investors to get it. But to do it you should check FAQ to get Steves quests in the right order.

Can someone help me what to do? Or perhaps someone has a savegame for me?

For main plot and Julias route you can use my saves in FAQ (probably u`ll need to replay from v.14)
all you need is here FAQ
 

lexxxi1

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I am at the end of episode 3, I think. Only task for me is "go to ryan's office the next day". Can someone tell me where that is/ what to do? Thank you.
 
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