LoverOfOO

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Dec 5, 2018
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Sorry, no. Me and mostly my talented friend Ariestra did similar looped scenes before, and it's easy to check it. Said this... *this* particular scene is amazing and well written like few, and it's one of the best content ever released.
Oh for sure, maybe that claim came across as too strong. I meant no disrespect to any other creators, and just to be clear, it's perfectly fine to be INSPIRED by something and do your own art and take on it. Happens all the time in all forms of media. And the loop thing is one of the many "known" fantasies when it comes to toilet content, so I'm not saying Salia is the "first person to come up with it" or anything. I just noticed several other games shifting focus or putting out similar scenes shortly after, which again, as a freak with very nice tastes and appreciator of that scene I'm grateful for :D
I certainly wasn't referring to Toiletscape, haven't played that since the initial release (the "mine" thing was a bit too abstract and extreme for me but I see you implemented some other settings, will check it out again further down the line since very few games actually do full toilet content)

Could you maybe point me towards the game you are reffering to? xD
Sorry, General Rule 2.2, don't want to derail and talk about other games too much, especially considering folks are already getting angry at me for airing my complaints too strongly for their liking :p I sent you a DM with the examples tho
 

Spiritlouis

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Oct 5, 2021
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Oh for sure, maybe that claim came across as too strong. I meant no disrespect to any other creators, and just to be clear, it's perfectly fine to be INSPIRED by something and do your own art and take on it.
And to give Salia even more credit, i was literally flashed out by FemU, which remains a total font of inspiration.
Don't name any game here :) And I am interested in that private list of games too.. You look to me an expert and you may know a gem so far hidden to me!
 

qwerfgh

Member
Oct 19, 2019
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I do not care about your opinion, your boner or your desire to jack off. I do not want to read long monologues on the thread for the game and would like you and those posters to go somewhere else. Sorry, you couldn't even find the basic scenes in the game. I don't think the game is for you, and I don't want it ruined by trying to cater to your taste. I'm not intending to be disrespectful to you, I'm just being honest.

I want the game updated more frequently. I do not want the developers to have to constantly re-engineer basic mechanics instead of creating new content. You can't make everyone happy.

St4rl1ght, it feels like you're fanatically obsessed with the game and I can agree that it's a good game and it's fine for you to be obsessed with. However, some of us have played, in short, a lot of games.

When we write long posts, it's not out of ill or anything harsh, we want to make points, explain and come to sort of agreements.

We have game 1, 2, 3 and the list goes on.
There's new games coming out and if you're speaking in defense of the developer, then it isn't a good thing to defend their games to much.

The best critics, tend to be those with negative views.
I'm grateful when people inform me of things to improve or what they consider wrong, it far better than those who doesn't tell me anything. I can talk with, discuss and thank that customer and inform them that I'll look over their points and then possible make great improvement. Now I have managed to keep a customer and possible made improvements or planned for them.

I make advertisement for some things and sometimes those with positive reviews give some hints, but those who're more negative, really tend to get the information I need to change. Writing advertisement, even for the same advertisement, can take years to perfect and you redo it all the time (sometimes it gets better, while other times it can get worse).

The developer needs to bring in as much sponsorship as possible.
Just spamming new content can look good, but rarely holds in the long run.
Now we're up to day 50, 60 or more? What happens when we reach day 100 or 200 (not sure of how long the game will go on)? The game is in development and people have some acceptancy to flaws and are kind in their reviews.
If they game is finished and some of the notes we have made, is not finished, then the reviews will not be kindly.
If you manage a project, then you'll learn that the longer it takes to implement a change, the harder by cost and time it'll become. So when important changes comes to late, especially if they change basics of the game, then it can be a very hard hurdle to handle. Fall enough behind and you'll soon be in a nightmare and stomp with your feet, once you're, it can be very hard to get out. Many game creators have the solution of starting to create a new game and leave some other games at the side, which is a bad sign and you can just hope that they don't repeat the same mistake (which many do, especially when you cut corners).

If you get bad reviews as a company, like 1, 2, 3 or even 4 stars can sometimes be feared, then it really cut the light of a game. You want to get as many five stars as possible, companies do fear 4 stars as it is sort of a bad stain on the company, they didn't do good enough. On a hotel, the grading would be different and there would be cheaper prices, but for an ordinary company, it's not the same thing. 4 stars is simply not good enough (for a game, it's sometimes different).

Now to the game.

You say that everything is good as it's and that more content should just be pushed out.
You also say that you don't consider the game as a porn game, yet you call it a femdom game, which should be a porn game right?

I play a lot of genres and I have a lot of preferences in different genres and they can change if I stumble on content good enough to change or add to it.

I have have played a lot of games in my life, especially related to porn and watched porn videos.
One video or game is not enough for me and it goes the same for most others.

If you like playing the without the blitzing, then that's fine.
It's your fetish and we all accept you for that, however most of us don't have that kind of time.
Without blitzing and skipping, especially for a second playthrough or so, then most will not play the game again and their new impressions will be bad, which could result in a lot of bad reviews.

Being a slave to a woman, is different for those who're interested of it.
If you talk about reality, this isn't how it works in most of those cases.
You try to find someone you can live and enjoy your life with, you'll have different fetishes.
You don't want a bad relationship, which you live and experience constantly.
A game is different, you can escape from it or experience it when you want to.
When you escape reality, a lot of things tend to go downhill.
What happens after you get tired of the old things and want to change or that your partner wants to change?

In a relationship, there's more than sex and being dominated.
And if we make the point that the ones of the more extreme is more close to machoism.
Then there's those who likes who to see extreme gore, where bodyparts are cut or sawed off or those who fuck eye sockets, shouldn't they outrank you (in that case, then you're not enough of a masochist (I can't handle extreme gore, so this is just an example))?

In reality, for example, ball-busting isn't a nice experience and damage can become severe, but in a game it's different as you don't experience itself. Pee-drinking is one thing, that some came hanlde, but pop-eating (which would be horrible for ones health)? Would you want to experience it?

There's also those who wants breasts to more or less be large enough to be on the down to the floor.
I believe it was bloomwar and I pointed out that they were ruining the good characters that they had and suggested that they make it more customizable to gain a larger audience, to me it didn't take long until the game just turned me off, along with making other points.

"The game as made by a woman should not be pornography. Instant gratification for a dick rubber is contrary to what a masochist actually wants, which is denial and scarcity. Over-exposure to a scene makes it less enjoyable, and having it instantly available with no challenge is no longer a game." You way of masochism is one of many, so you have to accepts others as well.

The game got a lot of over exposure and that's fine if you can blitz/skip through it (as long that you don't get stopped to often for it) and it's important to be able to experience it again due to a gallery is missing.

It doesn't matter if the game is made by a woman or man.
Some games are made by both men and women or a large crew.
This developer makes good games, but the a he or she doesn't matter to me when it comes to games.

A good example of some content that I have missed:
I still haven't seen the April toilet scene, likely due to having too good stats even when I do poor cleaning.
I would have to copy the install folder and start over, but for me, the game is very grindy and time consuming and that would take time.

I don't have enough time and I got a lot of games that I want to play.
I'm behind with a lot of IRL tasks, so I shouldn't play to much either, which I sometimes do as I get absorbed, so saving time is a priority and it likely is for us above 25/30 and above.

Doing the homework, I might have had that scene, I have intentionally plunged the reputation to -800 and seen a lot of scenes or conversations. However I can't remember it or the save file for it, I would have to make a notes in a notepad document and that would make it tedious to play.

Again, you're free to your opinion and it's very good that you made your points about the game, so that the developer can also take that in consideration. But you should also accept our opinion and not be against the blitz parts, you don't have to blitz through the game. Of course you can make the argument if it's there, then it'll be used.
But if it isn't there, then a lost of possible customers will be lost and there'll be a loss of patrons and customers, along with bad reviews.

Also, when you say that those with our opinions should go somewhere else, you're more or less telling most of the developers patrons to fuck off and leave. But without patrons, there wouldn't be much value for the creator to create the game, due to that it consumes a lot of time and doesn't result in enough money. Try to work for free and have demands on you, it'll then be obvious that isn't exactly a wonderful experience.

Again, nothing ill meant and I know that I hit a lot of your nerves.
But you're digging your own grave against two people who can argument with logic and we don't want to sort of discredit you.
We spent time writing a lot of text, because we want to reply to you, out of good will to you too.
 

st4rl1ght

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St4rl1ght, it feels like you're fanatically obsessed with the game and I can agree that it's a good game and it's fine for you to be obsessed with. However, some of us have played, in short, a lot of games.

When we write long posts, it's not out of ill or anything harsh, we want to make points ...
Game creation incorporates cinema, and the way that women do cinematography has been documented extensively in the literature as different from men. This is the purported difference between the male and female gaze.

It is widely discussed in the F/m subculture that submissive men are scarce. The cited reason is an abundance of men who think they are submissive, but simply want the woman to be a fetish dispenser so they can get their rocks off and leave. It is generally accepted that these are power bottoms, not submissives. Pornography is not usually a genre that submissive men are interested in, rather their tastes usually align with 'erotica', more popular with women. Erotica is considered different from porn because it is not explicit but rather contextual and implicit. It generally does not serve the role of fetish dispensary, perhaps because women seem to not experience fetishistic fixation at the same rate as men. Erotica is slow.

One of the issues with creating art in a democracy is that popular taste is terrible. Usually, art is best funded from one or two wealthy patrons, or in modern times the government.
 
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SaliaCoel

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I think grind should be optional but rewarding. I think if something is repetitive it must have a different reward and scene every time or a blitz. I already did that with lvl1 goodies. Now doing it with lvl2.

Btw
The looped Bathroom toilet scene is always accessible with high cleaning stats and a perfectly clean bathroom.

And
I didnt steal this idea from anywhere or anyone. I didnt even know other games have a similar scene.
I did something similar in FemU1 years ago.
 

asehpe

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Mar 13, 2020
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I think grind should be optional but rewarding. I think if something is repetitive it must have a different reward and scene every time or a blitz. I already did that with lvl1 goodies. Now doing it with lvl2.

Btw
The looped Bathroom toilet scene is always accessible with high cleaning stats and a perfectly clean bathroom.

And
I didnt steal this idea from anywhere or anyone. I didnt even know other games have a similar scene.
I did something similar in FemU1 years ago.
Out of curiosity, is the pussy-licking scene with Cherry in the gym equipment room the last one for now? Or can we pursue her further? (She's one of the cutest, I'd love to see where she takes MC.) Is her scene repeatable? Are there plans for a gallery at some point?
 

Parrbapp

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Dec 5, 2021
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Out of curiosity, is the pussy-licking scene with Cherry in the gym equipment room the last one for now? Or can we pursue her further? (She's one of the cutest, I'd love to see where she takes MC.) Is her scene repeatable? Are there plans for a gallery at some point?
From my own game, I'd assume, it's the end of her storyline for now. I also hope there's soon more of her (and Ashley! I need more Ashley content!!! :p)
 

TheMan55

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Nov 28, 2020
12
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Is there a way to further the storyline with your Business class tutor past the point where she meets you in the library, or will I always need to have business homework done (or watch a face sitting scene) before I can use the library? I do like to use the library to pass time, or gain XP for my classes, but it’s annoying to run into the tutor girl every time I enter the library the first time for that day.
 

qincai

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Oct 20, 2022
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0
If you really just want to fast-forward into the scene, you could SAVE-
just wake up->work->sleep
repeat. This should take 5minutes realllife-time for 1 week advancing.
Save again, visit Ms Viola.

And use load that file to see the event unfold.
Or better: Just watch the scene from brombeeres Pornhub channel.


But I think I see where the problem is:

You want both, the entire immersion with the experience of the "life"- but also just the sexual-events, without the survival-resource-management-game around.

Well... the internet is full with those games, just download any other japanese femdom game and watch the gallery.
Or just watch porn, they already have sex there.

I think what makes this game so special is: You invest in your character time and you decide which way to build your character.
It's about the struggle to earn money so you can pay rent.

And then, when suddenly an npc steals your money while peeing on you, it "hurts different".

You are also right in a way, some parts of the game are repetitive and those can get a "blitz" feature.
I think Kelly-shower event does not need to be 5 times, probably 1 or 2 times is enough.

I will also add more "Blitz" into the game, reducing repetitiveness -
The Level 2 Goodies-work will also get a total rework.
(like Level 1 did)

so ... yeah, a lot of Quality-of-life changes are underway.
 

Randomguyy69

Newbie
Mar 14, 2019
25
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Hmm, will there be any MC exhibitionism content at some point? I'd love to be forced/willingly walk around naked or lol,

maybe with Tiffany, she forces us to walk around in only our diapers by taking our clothes at some point showing off how much of a baby we really are, and if we refuse to wear diapers we walk around naked

or maybe the skull girls strip you and you have to try to get to the dorm and be forced to get seen by many girls lol

I mainly want to know if exhibitionism is planned as I see stuff like "male/femaleFace_naked" in img>faces folder but have never seen it in-game yet, I wouldn't expect it anytime soon as it tho ofc, cuz probably introduced a whole new corruption mechanic ngl, but will love to see it happen.
 

Genkupok

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Dec 11, 2022
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Hmm, will there be any MC exhibitionism content at some point? I'd love to be forced/willingly walk around naked or lol,

maybe with Tiffany, she forces us to walk around in only our diapers by taking our clothes at some point showing off how much of a baby we really are, and if we refuse to wear diapers we walk around naked

or maybe the skull girls strip you and you have to try to get to the dorm and be forced to get seen by many girls lol

I mainly want to know if exhibitionism is planned as I see stuff like "male/femaleFace_naked" in img>faces folder but have never seen it in-game yet, I wouldn't expect it anytime soon as it tho ofc, cuz probably introduced a whole new corruption mechanic ngl, but will love to see it happen.
As far as we know the next update will be focus on shrinking. I just love how the creator try to put every kind of fetishes in this game just to satisfy everyon. I do like ur ideas even though i would like the creator focus on another fetishe more important in the next update
 
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Judge me or not, that was the best scene in entire game. I'm not really into... you know. But with Skullgirls it's just different, HOT as hell. I wish that scene had repeatability and multiple dialogues.. That cruel chick is far better than a bunch of random uni-girls in April's bathroom scene.
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mtsPR

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Sorry, General Rule 2.2, don't want to derail and talk about other games too much, especially considering folks are already getting angry at me for airing my complaints too strongly for their liking :p I sent you a DM with the examples tho
Dont tease us like that bro
 

Evizzy89

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Judge me or not, that was the best scene in entire game. I'm not really into... you know. But with Skullgirls it's just different, HOT as hell. I wish that scene had repeatability and multiple dialogues.. That cruel chick is far better than a bunch of random uni-girls in April's bathroom scene.
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I have played through the game to day 50+ and I dont recall ever seeing this scene, can you tell me how you triggered it?
maybe it was an older update that didnt trigger (since I use all my saves for new updates)
 
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I have played through the game to day 50+ and I dont recall ever seeing this scene, can you tell me how you triggered it?
maybe it was an older update that didnt trigger (since I use all my saves for new updates)
Day 30, bro. For me it happens after their second ambush (it also can be bound to your preferences, mine are: piss-content - OFF, Farts - OFF, Scat - ON)
 
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Randomguyy69

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As far as we know the next update will focus on shrinking. I just love how the creator tries to put every kind of fetishes in this game just to satisfy everyone. I do like ur ideas even though I would like the creator to focus on another fetish more important in the next update
yeah ik, can't wait to see the shrinking stuff too, hope there will be pantie pet scenes mainly, never see enough of those in my experience

and like I said I don't expect exhibitionism to be implemented in the very next update or anytime soon anyway but would love to know if at least planned in the future or nah, if yes yay but if not it is what it is lol.
 
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