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For the love of god, can you devs please make better NTR with additional fetishes!?

MissBumhole

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This doesn't apply to the independent solo indie western devs that we get from F95zone. This also applies to the Japanese devs. NTR has become a prominent genre for quite a few years now and these devs can't even include the things that also fit in great with it.

Most NTR's just follows the scenario of the self-insert male main protagonist having a love interest, crush, or even just a girlfriend who they have yet to have sex with, but in the end they can only watch from a distance as the girls fuck other men without the main protagonist being included in anything. Pretty standard. The main protagonist never gets to get his dick wet from the other girls even with just a little bit of sexual activity that doesn't go beyond the realms of just a handjob, and it's very rare in NTR to even do that.

As a self-insert, all I want is the main protagonist to be included more. Like why is he being NTR'd and what shortcomings does he have that stops him from ever having vaginal penetration with the girls but other men can do it? Show us why. And this is why it would be so much better if you included more of the other fetishes to show why it's come to this point. You can have:

- Premature ejaculation before they can go all the way.
- CFNM because they can't go beyond taking the girls clothes off before they cum.
- SPH (Small Penis Humiliation), something that gets revealed to the girls which makes the main protagonist less desirable and are only willing to do foreplay on them, but never allowing any sort of sexual penetration.
- Beta male traits, having the main protagonist not being confidant in going all the way with a girl when she's done sexual favours that she ends up going all the way with another man instead of the protagonist.
- Dominant girls who bully the protagonist, humiliating him and his penis while they fuck other men.

Like do more of this. There is not enough hentai that includes the main protagonist actually having his dick interacted with by girls and he just has to watch. That's not fun. If you're self-inserting, you wanna jack off to the parts where the main protagonist gets some form of pleasure from women. So just do it! There needs to be more. There are some hentai doujinshis and manga that does it. But it's not enough and it's very niche. But we desperately need more of it.

There's something that I am not fully understanding with the appeal of NTR. Is it because the ugly fat bastards with the big dicks are getting the girls and not the average male protagonist? Because I'm lead to assume the ugly fat bastards are you guys (minus the big penis), and you're self-inserting yourself onto the fat bastard instead of the average male protagonist you're suppose to put yourself in the shoes of. Kinda defeats the purpose.
 

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Most NTR's just follows the scenario of the self-insert male main protagonist having a love interest, crush, or even just a girlfriend who they have yet to have sex with, but in the end they can only watch from a distance as the girls fuck other men without the main protagonist being included in anything.
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As a self-insert, all I want is the main protagonist to be included more.
I have the same problem, but with Gay games. They have this weird habit to have MCs that only have sex with males. But as a Straight male player, all I want is for the MC to have sex with girls (futa okay too), and it's really a pity that Gay game developers do not understand this and don't make their games the way I want them.
Of course, I already hear haters saying that I should just stop to play Gay games, but I'm a free man, I do whatever I want! It's developers who are at fault, not me...


Ridiculous, isn't it?




Hmm, Jaike did this qualify to one of your list?
 

morphnet

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Most NTR's just follows the scenario of the self-insert male main protagonist having a love interest, crush, or even just a girlfriend who they have yet to have sex with, but in the end they can only watch from a distance as the girls fuck other men without the main protagonist being included in anything.
Not true, many netorare game are about wives. Many netorare games include the MC having sex and other sexual encounters with their LI's / girlfriend / wife while she tells them about her encounters. Many netorare games have the MC have an affair / sexual encounter first with another woman before anything happens with their LI. etc. etc.

Still not true with netorase, in many games the MC actively engages in sharing, swinging as well as voyeurism.

and definitely not true in netori where the MC is the one who steals the LI's

As a self-insert, all I want is the main protagonist to be included more. Like why is he being NTR'd and what shortcomings does he have that stops him from ever having vaginal penetration with the girls but other men can do it?
What is stopping the MC? You are... through your choices ingame...

and as stated above many games have the MC enjoy an active sex life.

Like do more of this. There is not enough hentai that includes the main protagonist actually having his dick interacted with by girls and he just has to watch. That's not fun. If you're self-inserting, you wanna jack off to the parts where the main protagonist gets some form of pleasure from women.
This is clearly a case of user error. You are downloading these games when there are MANY alternatives and then doing it to yourself.

But we desperately need more of it.
learn to read? learn to use search?

There's something that I am not fully understanding with the appeal of NTR. Is it because the ugly fat bastards with the big dicks are getting the girls and not the average male protagonist? Because I'm lead to assume the ugly fat bastards are you guys (minus the big penis), and you're self-inserting yourself onto the fat bastard instead of the average male protagonist you're suppose to put yourself in the shoes of. Kinda defeats the purpose.
Ugly fat bastards? That's your take away?

What about the blonde delinquent / ex boyfriend?
What about the shota's?
What about the bosses?
The brother?
The other childhood friend?
The best friend of the MC?
The corrupt shop keeper?
The OP new party member?
The neighbor?
The step father?
The next door neighbor?
The bully?
The MC's school / collage friend?
The senpai's?
The king / noble / village head?
The debt collectors?
The AV manager / photographer?
The co-worker?
The homeless?

etc. etc. etc.?

Normally when so many user errors occur it's customary to suggest "have you tried switching it off and on again?" However in this case maybe a radical approach might work? Have you tried switching it off and leaving it off?
 

fyl3toys

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If y'all stuck to incest like good girls and boys this wouldn't be a problem.
 

eaudecologne

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I'm lead to assume the ugly fat bastards are you guys (minus the big penis)
You were close but I also have the big penis. Anyways I like your ideas but at the end of the day just saying you want better stuff doesn't really help much... So the only way to improve the scene is by contributing I think but who can be bothered to do that amiright?