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He said if you rape her in her first appearance she disappears. The idea that if he gets his hooks into her and makes her mother's care dependant on him and she still runs away? That's all you.
As per usual Mr Perfect and knowledgeable...you're projecting.

As you can only rape (interact with) her once currently...what I said stands as accurate. Did I make any mention to what may happen in the future if you don't go the entire way? No...I didn't did I?

Just stating facts as told by Neon.
 
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I talked about this a bit on my Discord, but basically, after a certain point some routes will just close off because it doesn't make sense for them to continue. Like, if you didn't take the dark path with Character X at junctures A or B, then why would you at C?

Like.. Let's take Gabby's friend path, as a neutral example. Let's say you've played the last several chapters only being friendly with Gabby. I don't think it'd make sense to then have your character suddenly have the option to be a raging dickhead. Buuuut, it may make sense for the player to see her in financial need and say, "Hey, maybe it's not your thing, but I'm doing this calendar, and I could pay you for it. You just need to be naked." Or, "Well, if you ever wanted to make some extra money, I could use someone to accompany me on dates. And if you wanted to make even more money, well.."

Both of these scenarios could lead to the player having a 'corruption' style relationship with Gabby, where the dynamic is really one the player is taking advantage of his wealth in a way that's morally dubious, but not really capital-e Evil.

Likewise, if you've had a purely romantic relationship with Ashe, with no pushing of her boundaries or anything, the character likely won't turn on a dime and decide, "Well, now that we've been dating for a month, I can be a real jerk." I feel like that time's basically come and gone -- either you've decided to have a toxic relationship with her, or not.

I want to keep the freedom for players to adjust in good and evil ways, but there is a limit, both in terms of workload, and what the narrative will support. There's going to be a little time-skip in the game soon, and I want to have a few characters pretty firmly established in their feelings towards the MC, by the time that happens.
 

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I talked about this a bit on my Discord, but basically, after a certain point some routes will just close off because it doesn't make sense for them to continue. Like, if you didn't take the dark path with Character X at junctures A or B, then why would you at C?

Like.. Let's take Gabby's friend path, as a neutral example. Let's say you've played the last several chapters only being friendly with Gabby. I don't think it'd make sense to then have your character suddenly have the option to be a raging dickhead. Buuuut, it may make sense for the player to see her in financial need and say, "Hey, maybe it's not your thing, but I'm doing this calendar, and I could pay you for it. You just need to be naked." Or, "Well, if you ever wanted to make some extra money, I could use someone to accompany me on dates. And if you wanted to make even more money, well.."

Both of these scenarios could lead to the player having a 'corruption' style relationship with Gabby, where the dynamic is really one the player is taking advantage of his wealth in a way that's morally dubious, but not really capital-e Evil.

Likewise, if you've had a purely romantic relationship with Ashe, with no pushing of her boundaries or anything, the character likely won't turn on a dime and decide, "Well, now that we've been dating for a month, I can be a real jerk." I feel like that time's basically come and gone -- either you've decided to have a toxic relationship with her, or not.

I want to keep the freedom for players to adjust in good and evil ways, but there is a limit, both in terms of workload, and what the narrative will support. There's going to be a little time-skip in the game soon, and I want to have a few characters pretty firmly established in their feelings towards the MC, by the time that happens.
Some people though still won't believe anything even when the words are right there in front of them. They'll continue to harp on what's what and how's how, till they're blue in the face.
 

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There's going to be a little time-skip in the game soon, and I want to have a few characters pretty firmly established in their feelings towards the MC, by the time that happens.
It can be interesting to see how some characters situation change for the better with Guy's help.
 

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I talked about this a bit on my Discord, but basically, after a certain point some routes will just close off because it doesn't make sense for them to continue. Like, if you didn't take the dark path with Character X at junctures A or B, then why would you at C?

Like.. Let's take Gabby's friend path, as a neutral example. Let's say you've played the last several chapters only being friendly with Gabby. I don't think it'd make sense to then have your character suddenly have the option to be a raging dickhead. Buuuut, it may make sense for the player to see her in financial need and say, "Hey, maybe it's not your thing, but I'm doing this calendar, and I could pay you for it. You just need to be naked." Or, "Well, if you ever wanted to make some extra money, I could use someone to accompany me on dates. And if you wanted to make even more money, well.."

Both of these scenarios could lead to the player having a 'corruption' style relationship with Gabby, where the dynamic is really one the player is taking advantage of his wealth in a way that's morally dubious, but not really capital-e Evil.

Likewise, if you've had a purely romantic relationship with Ashe, with no pushing of her boundaries or anything, the character likely won't turn on a dime and decide, "Well, now that we've been dating for a month, I can be a real jerk." I feel like that time's basically come and gone -- either you've decided to have a toxic relationship with her, or not.

I want to keep the freedom for players to adjust in good and evil ways, but there is a limit, both in terms of workload, and what the narrative will support. There's going to be a little time-skip in the game soon, and I want to have a few characters pretty firmly established in their feelings towards the MC, by the time that happens.
I hope you didnt make to much realistic, dark path is one of the reason most people like your game.
 
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I hope you didnt make to much realistic, dark path is one of the reason most people like your game.
I'm a dark path fan (though rarely speak up about it)....but I play those paths firmly knowing that they most likely won't end very well for the MC.

Anyone plays them expecting the MC to do whataver he likes and waltz off to the Caribbean scott-free...that's on them when it all goes to shit. Part of the reason I play those paths actually...I want to see what shit Neon gets the MC into when it all comes crashing down around him.
 

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I'm a dark path fan (though rarely speak up about it)....but I play those paths firmly knowing that they most likely won't end very well for the MC.

Anyone plays them expecting the MC to do whataver he likes and waltz off to the Caribbean scott-free...that's on them when it all goes to shit. Part of the reason I play those paths actually...I want to see what shit Neon gets the MC into when it all comes crashing down around him.
yeah even tho im anti dark path 99% of the time I still play it because I want to see the consequences, I just kind of skip the lewd scenes on that path and read the other bits of dialogue. With how good Neon is at showing facial emotions might be too much for me if I watched them.
 

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I'm a dark path fan (though rarely speak up about it)....but I play those paths firmly knowing that they most likely won't end very well for the MC.

Anyone plays them expecting the MC to do whataver he likes and waltz off to the Caribbean scott-free...that's on them when it all goes to shit. Part of the reason I play those paths actually...I want to see what shit Neon gets the MC into when it all comes crashing down around him.
having consequences is fun, Neon gives us extreme options...

like a good Guy, Simpiest man alive, Joshy incarnate.:KEK:

The bad "normal" Guy, Being a little harsh and a cunt, without doing extreme things, Like normal folks.

And the ugly "evil" Guy that can do anything and maybe gets a bad ending, or not because reasons!
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let me correct that for you.

People need to stop generalizing their opinion with the hidden intent of tracking support as if they were speaking for more than themselves.



EDIT: You beat me replying it! putting those colors are bold takes time!
Nice new profile piccy my sweet Vampire Mistress...where from?
 
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having consequences is fun, Neon gives us extreme options...

like a good Guy, Simpiest man alive, Joshy incarnate.:KEK:

The bad "normal" Guy, Being a little harsh and a cunt, without doing extreme things, Like normal folks.

And the ugly "evil" Guy that can do anything and maybe gets a bad ending, or not because reasons!
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Imo it's more like:
- Good altruist path
- Corruptor and groomer
- Psycho

1 and 2 are pretty good, 3 is not my thing but to each his own :illuminati:
 
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I want to watch one of Pepper's cam shows and tip her one million dollars.
She deserves it.
But then she wouldn't have a need to do cam shows anymore and you would lose the hotness factor of thinking of her doing cam shows and showing off to other guys online unless you convince her to do it for fun. I would just pay her expenses so she keeps doing cam shows.
 
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I want to watch one of Pepper's cam shows and tip her one million dollars.
She deserves it.
But then she wouldn't have a need to do cam shows anymore and you would lose the hotness factor of thinking of her doing cam shows and showing off to other guys online unless you convince her to do it for fun. I would just pay her expenses so she keeps doing cam shows.
She seemingly is only doing cam shows because she's being forced to, I don't think she enjoys doing it (at least not under those circumstances). Also the money (or at least most of it), wouldn't go to her anyways, it would go to the person making her do the shows.
 

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She seemingly is only doing cam shows because she's being forced to, I don't think she enjoys doing it (at least not under those circumstances). Also the money (or at least most of it, wouldn't go to her anyways, it would go to the person making her do the shows.
Maybe in a friendlier environment she might like it?
Because bro, it would be so hot having a camgirl girlfriend.
 

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She seemingly is only doing cam shows because she's being forced to, I don't think she enjoys doing it (at least not under those circumstances). Also the money (or at least most of it, wouldn't go to her anyways, it would go to the person making her do the shows.
oh really I must of missed that part thanks , I didn't know she was being forced. I assumed she was doing them to pay bills or to save money up to get out of living with her dad or whoever it is.
 
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But then she wouldn't have a need to do cam shows anymore
That's good though. As I'm not into camwhores. But then, I'm only into Gabby and Mason. I'm not lookin to bang any of the others. Maybe Viola. Risa though, I'm goin to turn into my anal slut. She'll be chained up in a corner and fed and watered from dog bowls. I'll be nice and give her a large dogbed and a blanket though.
 
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