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Updated my android port. Yes I know there's already another one!
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If you are able to get this on Steam eventually it will take pride of place among my collection.Nah, it’ll go a bit longer. I could end it there.. But, I think it’ll end around Chapter 12 or 14. I kind of want to get to a point where most of the characters have their relationship trajectories established. That way, in Season 2 it’s less about figuring out where you stand with a girl, and more about solidifying that relationship.
Right now, Nicki’s basically set. Ashe is about 90% there. Gabby and Brittani will be pretty soon. Viola, Mason, and Risa a little after that.
If I could get all those relationships firmed up/locked in before the end of Season One, that’d be ideal.
Anyway I like that you're going to separate them by seasons because it makes it sound like a TV show.
I like Risa but she won't ever overtake Mason & Nicki. In fact Mason is my second favourite LI in AVN history.Honestly I can't wait to see how Risa's relationship is going to work out to get officially established. Especially cause of her father. In one update you made her the most interesting character to me I can pretty much say I think she might as well be my favorite now which says alot cause I like Nicki alot. But ever since I played the update I keep finding myself thinking about Risa as a character , where her story is going even made up fake scenario's / scenes I would like to see in my head on and off. That is something not many LI have managed to do to me. Only something like 10 LI including Risa has managed to do that to me not even Nicki and I like Nicki alot.
As always thanks for making this wonderful game and can't wait for the next update
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I honestly enjoy this game because you can be a good guy, but still be a dick with some people.
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Yeah I hear you on Nicki I'm sure I'll change my mind next update where we get Nicki content. To me Nicki and Risa are so close to one another the only reason I can say I like Risa more right now is cause this update is so fresh that I can't stop thinking about what's next for Risa's story and what scenes id love to see. So im sure in about 2 weeks or so when the hype dies down id consider them tied haha. Tho I will say I think I do like Risa's story most out of anyone right now.
Tbh I never been into Mason just not for me but maybe i'll try Mason's content in the next 1-2 Mason updayes just to see if I feel the same. I do dislike accepting the BJ as it does feel like im taking advantage , which is why I want to wait an update or 2 with Mason content before I try it out.
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At first I didn't know if I would like every LI but there isn't a single one so far that I don't want to romance one way or another.
As you know I love romance stuff and I can't wait for that to start with Mason. I would love to take him on a date, buy him flowers and hold his hand.
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Yeah even the characters im not interested in as a LI I love them as characters because Neon has done a good job in making them likeable characters where I want to see how their story progresses. The only character I actually hate is Isabella not sure if she is a secondary LI or just maybe someone that will be a one night stand once in awhile. Hell even tho I hate Isabella as a character I do like the writing of her story and character plus she is connected to Brittani so it's gonna some good story telling. I can already see Neon maybe adding something like Isabella roleplaying and pretending to be her daughter while Guy has sex with her.
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I appreciate your taking the time to reply at all. I'll likewise try [with questionable results] to keep my replies brief since I think we're reaching a point of diminishing returns for my feedback: I'm pretty clearly more than a standard deviation away from the target audience. So I hope you don't mind if I rearrange your replies a bit to respond to them out of order.
As far as railroading, the issue isn't a strictly linear narrative, it's a question of what the choices we get allow us to change. Specifically, it's the "engage with her plotline at all" option that that causes problems because AFAICT, Risa's plot is inextricably linked to Lucien, and - for better or for worse - Lucien is just too big to ignore. That elevates Risa position where I can't really consider her optional anymore. It's a Hobson's choice: pretend I like Risa, or pretend I'm not disturbed by what Lucien is doing. I don't want to do either of those!
Now, if Risa is meant to be a pivotal character in the story, then this is ultimately a 'me' problem. (Maybe this is what you were referring to when you mention pacing problems; Risa was supposed to be that close to the MC, but we never got a chance to see it.) It would basically be the big Nicki debate all over again, except this time I'm on the side that dislikes the LI. But my impression is that Risa wasn't supposed to be a major structural element of the game, which suggests that something has gone at least a little haywire.
Anyway, on to the particulars.
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I would quibble with the way you phrased that, Neon. It is absolutely the job of an author to listen to the audience; that's the only way to learn how your art functions outside the confines of your own head. That does not mean, however, that an author needs to act on the audience's feedback, or even agree with it. But I do think you need to listen.
Which, just be clear, you have been doing consistently. I think you sometimes take the comments a little more personally than is warranted (though I appreciate it's a hell of a lot easier for me to say that when I'm on this side of the pen), but I give you full marks for listening.
It's not dreck though this game is better than at least 70% of the trash I find on here. Neon is one of the best writers on here, he's up there with DrPinkCake imo.
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he isn't worth the time he is a troll at this point he complained for a few days trying to derail the thread into a NTR conversation before saying how he deleted the game over a scene in the update but still comes to this thread once in awhile . Which Neon is making said scene optional in a future update anyways.
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Is Madison only going to feature later or is she not a main girl?Nah, it’ll go a bit longer. I could end it there.. But, I think it’ll end around Chapter 12 or 14. I kind of want to get to a point where most of the characters have their relationship trajectories established. That way, in Season 2 it’s less about figuring out where you stand with a girl, and more about solidifying that relationship.
Right now, Nicki’s basically set. Ashe is about 90% there. Gabby and Brittani will be pretty soon. Viola, Mason, and Risa a little after that.
If I could get all those relationships firmed up/locked in before the end of Season One, that’d be ideal.
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https://f95zone.to/threads/friends-in-need-ch-9-v0-60c-neonghosts.112500/post-13933356
Not gonna lie, reading posts like this, where the author communicates with the audience, explains some non-obvious points of the game and answers questions, complaints and even the negative posts of the public, is perhaps no less interesting than the game itself.
The only thing that’s a little frustrating is that the dev admits by himself that such openness, including to negativity, unreasonable demands and simply trolling, affects his motivation. I'm a selfish guy, so a less motivated developer means less content or longer waits for updates for me. This is unacceptable!
I may or may not like the game, but I definitely can't stand it when players start dictating to the developer how they should make their games and what content they should or shouldn't include there.
And I don't agree with bro ename144 that it's author's job is to listen the audience's feedback. Let's say yet another guy doesn't like Nikki, he wrote about it in the thread, left a negative review. The developer, if for some reason this information may be useful to him, has increased Nikki’s dislike counter. That's it, feedback received. But the guy won't stop there and will write post after post about how crappy Nikki and the game are, and the author doesn't understand a damn thing about it. What kind of feedback is this? To me it sounds like an annoying noise which no one is obliged to listen to.
I'm not even talking about the fact that for some developers their games are passion projects; they make them primarily for their own fun. Yes, it's great if other people like it too and want to support the developer, but the wide support isn't a requirement for those developers to continue working. This forum provides a great place for developers and players to find each other and communicate. But if someone, even after numerous explanations and answers from the developer, continues to think and write that the game is moving in the wrong direction, the story is wrong, the developer doesn't know what he's doing, adds the wrong content for the wrong characters, maybe then it's time to just admit that this game is not for you, and move on instead of crapping on someone's passion?
Not gonna lie, reading posts like this, where the author communicates with the audience, explains some non-obvious points of the game and answers questions, complaints and even the negative posts of the public, is perhaps no less interesting than the game itself.
The only thing that’s a little frustrating is that the dev admits by himself that such openness, including to negativity, unreasonable demands and simply trolling, affects his motivation. I'm a selfish guy, so a less motivated developer means less content or longer waits for updates for me. This is unacceptable!
I may or may not like the game, but I definitely can't stand it when players start dictating to the developer how they should make their games and what content they should or shouldn't include there.
And I don't agree with bro ename144 that it's author's job is to listen the audience's feedback. Let's say yet another guy doesn't like Nikki, he wrote about it in the thread, left a negative review. The developer, if for some reason this information may be useful to him, has increased Nikki’s dislike counter. That's it, feedback received. But the guy won't stop there and will write post after post about how crappy Nikki and the game are, and the author doesn't understand a damn thing about it. What kind of feedback is this? To me it sounds like an annoying noise which no one is obliged to listen to.
I'm not even talking about the fact that for some developers their games are passion projects; they make them primarily for their own fun. Yes, it's great if other people like it too and want to support the developer, but the wide support isn't a requirement for those developers to continue working. This forum provides a great place for developers and players to find each other and communicate. But if someone, even after numerous explanations and answers from the developer, continues to think and write that the game is moving in the wrong direction, the story is wrong, the developer doesn't know what he's doing, adds the wrong content for the wrong characters, maybe then it's time to just admit that this game is not for you, and move on instead of crapping on someone's passion?
I would appreciate it if you could make these less tempting. Thanks in advance from my wallet
If you played a save from v0.59, you're missing a variable for that scene. Load an earlier save to fix it. It needs to be from the end of v0.57 or earlier.
This version is missing several shots and has a placeholder for an eventual scene.
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it's the right version to download now it's no longer the beta build
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60c is the complete one, the other guy was talking about 59b probablyI just cancelled the download at 80% cuz someone said its missing stuff....