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Honestly I don't even care about Cassie getting cut or not. Cause to me there wasn't any build up there at all for me. To me she was just a sister that had a bad relationship with the MC and has been gone for 99% of the time.
 

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The game choke full of serial rape, that would make No Mercy weep in horror, doesn't get the incest route after so much buildup because of payment processors. This is both the funniest and saddest possible outcome. :FacePalm:

Hey, this is a good moment to rework her into a childhood friend...foster roommate...younger tenant anyone? :HideThePain:
You apparently didn’t read what I wrote.

But thank you, you’ve made a good argument for why I need to be more proactive in ensuring the project’s future.
 

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You apparently didn’t read what I wrote.

But thank you, you’ve made a good argument for why I need to be more proactive in ensuring the project’s future.
Just ignore them Neon, we totally get it.

Anyways did you read my comments on jealousy and monogamy? I mentioned that we should have multiple endings for this game, like a good end and a bad end for each path, I don't want the dark path to just end in a bad ending, it would be nice to have a good ending too for it.

Also I mentioned that the acceptance of polygamy should be an issue for the girls, especially girls who are not dependent on Guy like Ashe, Cassie, Britanni and so on. Other girls who are financially dependent on Guy can begrudgingly accept it but it would be nice to see their moments of jealousy too, like Nicki, Mason, and Viola.

I think it should depend on how dependent they are on Guy and his money and how invested they are with him emotionally but it should not be common and there should be some hard choices to make when choosing which girl to end up with. For replayability purposes and also because that's more realistic. I would like to end up with Cassie tbh if I had to pick. And jealousy is another aspect that is so common in relationships but most adult games just go from "I want us to be together" to "oh you have been sleeping with other women behind my back? No problem".

It's just so weird there should be like genuine outburst and I would love seeing scenes of 2 girls you sleep with competing and literally having hostile interactions with each other due to their involvement with you.
 
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Speaking of wrapping the game up, I recently received a question as to how much longer exactly people can expect this story to continue. I've talked off and on about this, and allow me to opine for a bit. The plan is and has been to make this a two season story. So, we're basically at the halfway point now, and I'm working to wrap it up within 11-12 more chapters. Assuming I continue working at my current rate of speed, that means another 3-3.5 years of content. Some folks expressed dismay at that, which I totally get. It feels both very close and very far away, and people naturally want to spend more time with their favorites, and see all the various love interests get their time to shine.

Buuut.. I feel like, within this space, there aren't very many games that actually manage to arrive at a satisfactory ending. Or an ending of any kind, for that matter. And even when one does, nobody likes to invest a ton of time into a story and then see it reach a conclusion, and all their fictional friends ride off into the sunset. It's bittersweet, right? I mean, I still haven't finished the second season of Pushing Daisies, because part of my brain says, "If you never finish it, those characters are still out there, having adventures."

That said, I think part of what makes a story special is that it ends, and you get to have a sense of closure. And as much as endings can suck, I think being left wondering, "What would've happened?!" is so much worse. So, yeah. Trying to land this plane in the next few years. That won't mean trying to arbitrarily force the story to wrap up by an arbitrary deadline or anything, and if I need more time/chapters, I'll make use of them. But that's the plan for now.
Just think about A.I tech 3 or 4 years from today. Some people hate AI cgs but I have seen some really cool shit already. I think we're about to see a revolution in rendering quality and times. The bottle neck of avns right now is the art. 2D art takes time and DAZ is not faster either, with the advent of AI that's gonna be a thing of the past.
So if you want to keep writing stories, porn or whatever, you will have better tools in the future.



About the Cassie debate
In my opinion the best scenario for Cassie is to have her own harem of boy toys and girls.
Something like Cassie mini chapters of her doing her own thing :BootyTime:
 
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The game choke full of serial rape, that would make No Mercy weep in horror, doesn't get the incest route after so much buildup because of payment processors. This is both the funniest and saddest possible outcome. :FacePalm:

Hey, this is a good moment to rework her into a childhood friend...foster roommate...younger tenant anyone? :HideThePain:
Nobody said that. It's just been said to lay low and be smart about it. When you see a bridge burning, you don't try to add more fuel to it and see it burn.
You either carefully cross it or find a new way around. The game has obviously an insane amount of dark content so adding incest isn't a big deal. For legal reasons also the dark content is a fanmade patch *wink wink*
Not affiliated with the main project. You can't expect in turbulent times for developer to make assuring statements. It's better for everyone to patiently wait and let the content slowly added under the hood. Rather than brazenly exclaim that this and that will be added.
 
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The game choke full of serial rape, that would make No Mercy weep in horror, doesn't get the incest route after so much buildup because of payment processors. This is both the funniest and saddest possible outcome. :FacePalm:
Neon only said he'd rather not talk about his plans for Cassie for the moment, though, not that he didn't have plans for her. Let's just wait and see how it goes.
 
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Hey, folks! Hope you're all doing well, today. Sorry for the late update, I ate something that didn't agree with me yesterday, and was having some nasty stomach cramps. As a result, I just didn't it in me to do a post. But now I'm feeling right as rain, so let's get tooooo it.

I've knocked out some more renders for the next chapter, finishing the little bit that sees our hero reuniting with the Barron family, to finally catch up. It's a cute little scene, and I'm pretty happy with it. Now I'm onto the next set of scenes, which have Guy wrapping up another very long day. I'm almost to the bit where we jump ahead in the story a bit, and Guy's black eye finally vanishes. Rejoice! I know people hated it, but I really loved having him walk around with a living reminder of the consequences of his actions. When I finally wrap the whole game up, I'd kind of love to go back and do a variant of all the chapters, where you're able to avoid Jamie's suckerpunch, and never get the black eye. It'd be a huge time investment for something relatively minor.. But I still can't help but think it'd be fun.

Speaking of wrapping the game up, I recently received a question as to how much longer exactly people can expect this story to continue. I've talked off and on about this, and allow me to opine for a bit. The plan is and has been to make this a two season story. So, we're basically at the halfway point now, and I'm working to wrap it up within 11-12 more chapters. Assuming I continue working at my current rate of speed, that means another 3-3.5 years of content. Some folks expressed dismay at that, which I totally get. It feels both very close and very far away, and people naturally want to spend more time with their favorites, and see all the various love interests get their time to shine.

Buuut.. I feel like, within this space, there aren't very many games that actually manage to arrive at a satisfactory ending. Or an ending of any kind, for that matter. And even when one does, nobody likes to invest a ton of time into a story and then see it reach a conclusion, and all their fictional friends ride off into the sunset. It's bittersweet, right? I mean, I still haven't finished the second season of Pushing Daisies, because part of my brain says, "If you never finish it, those characters are still out there, having adventures."

That said, I think part of what makes a story special is that it ends, and you get to have a sense of closure. And as much as endings can suck, I think being left wondering, "What would've happened?!" is so much worse. So, yeah. Trying to land this plane in the next few years. That won't mean trying to arbitrarily force the story to wrap up by an arbitrary deadline or anything, and if I need more time/chapters, I'll make use of them. But that's the plan for now.

That discussion, naturally, lead to people asking: what's next? What'll I do once Guy's adventures are over? And right now, I don't know! It's a ways off, and who knows what my life will even look like by then. I think I'll always want to keep making AVNs, and I have loose plans for a few. I think anything in the future would be designed as more of a limited/smaller scope project. I've also talked a lot about taking some time to do expansion/DLC content for secondary characters like Isabella, Jun, Wren, Dash, etc. which would turn them into full love interests. Or building out big date scenes for all the main love interests, which could easily slot into some of the little time skips I'm building into the story.

But I'd also like to get to other creative pursuits. I've mentioned I wrote a spicy fantasy novel last year (which I'm still in the process of editing) and that whole experience was really fun for me. Being able to just focus on following a single narrative thread, without the demands of doing thousands of images, was really, really nice. I'm also a traditional artist, who wants to do some graphic novels before I die. Not that I'm planning to kick the bucket anytime soon, but life is unpredictable, you know? I've got some stories I want to tell in that format, some spicy and some not.

More than anything else, I just look forward to slowing down a bit. I know, I know. People are probably thinking, "Slowing down?! You're already slow!" :'D But, I basically treat this like a job right now, with a minimum number of hours I force myself to "clock in" every week. It'd be nice to eventually relax a bit and go back to making stuff purely for fun and the joy of making it.
To the dev:

Take ALL the time you need, even if it takes you 3-4 years or more. Why?
First because in that time new technology might come out that will help you improve renders or animations.
Second because the more characters/LI you add the more you have to create stories around it, and wrap them up.
Third and last because nobody here who isn't supporting you monetarily (and probably those too) should push you since they want their product fast (and yeah, I sometimes think that way but that does not mean it is right).

Overly, we should all be grateful to you continuously creating this story... which for me is enjoyable. I'm happy to wait even if sometimes it is hard since I look forward to the development of Friends in Need, as long as it never gets dropped.
I can't wait ( :sneaky: ) for the next update!

Thank you for your time and effort!
 
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Neon only said he'd rather not talk about his plans for Cassie for the moment, though, not that he didn't have plans for her. Let's just wait and see how it goes.
That’s funny. Everyone else seems eager to talk about their plans for Cassie. :cautious:
 
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I think Cassie has plans of her own.
Exactly. She’s a wildcard. And it makes it interesting for Guy and his other relationships and paths. So far Guy has had free range to do whatever he wants. How much can he hide from Cassie depending on the path? Will she be the catalyst for Viola and Gabby becoming a thing? I like the idea of her spoiling your fun with other girls if you keep her around too close.

Speaking of pursuing Cassie, unpopular opinion, I personally have no interest. There’s enough games out there with tenants and landlady love interests and all the generic tropes that come along with it. Knowing Neon he might poke fun at that lol.
 

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Sure there are plenty of 'roommate' games out there but honestly they suck at telling a deep emotional story around it. It's always just 'we can't fuck we're roommates' and then 'okay let's fuck'.
Agree with you. I’m not against it either. Neon is a decent writer, so I’m sure he’ll come up with some good smut that may sway my opinion lol.
 
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Sure there are plenty of 'roommate' games out there but honestly they suck at telling a deep emotional story around it. It's always just 'we can't fuck we're roommates' and then 'okay let's fuck'.
Play Haley's Story if you want an incest story that doesn't fall on the landlady and roommates cliches.
FiN doesn't need incest at all imo.
 
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Play Haley's Story if you want an incest story that doesn't fall on the landlady and roommates cliches.
FiN doesn't need incest at all imo.
Yeah especially said character been gone for most of the game. So either gonna have to do a rushed job or spend alot of Season 2 building her up for it to make a bit of sense imo for a non Dark Path.
 

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Well the reason I like FiN over most other games isn't just because I think Mason & Nicki are fucking hot (they are though lol)
But because NG has a certain writing style that feels unique and special which quite frankly I don't get from many avns and I have played over 800 of them.

So I can't just 'play another game'. And to be clear, I don't really care that much about Cassie romance, but I wouldn't turn it down either. She could be the LI in a spin-off starring some Aussie hunk :BootyTime:
 

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Yeah especially said character been gone for most of the game. So either gonna have to do a rushed job or spend alot of Season 2 building her up for it to make a bit of sense imo for a non Dark Path.
It can be done but should be? I mean you can introduce bestiality or snuff too but I don't know if that'd be a good idea.
 
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Yeah especially said character been gone for most of the game. So either gonna have to do a rushed job or spend alot of Season 2 building her up for it to make a bit of sense imo for a non Dark Path.
Yeah she wasn't around, but rush job, no. They have something the others chracters don't have history, Neon could throw a couple of quick flashbacks, to catch up.

Also I would say she really isn't behind at all. Viola, Alex, Maddison, Carolina, and a few others romances haven't even started. The only thing those characters have on Cassie, is like 1-2 extra scenes. So it would not need to be a rushed job, and it would make a lot of sense too.

Just because you don't care for her romance doesn't mean me and many others don't.
 

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Yeah she wasn't around, but rush job, no. They have something the others chracters don't have history, Neon could throw a couple of quick flashbacks, to catch up.

Also I would say she really isn't behind at all. Viola, Alex, Maddison, Carolina, and a few others romances haven't even started. The only thing those characters have on Cassie, is like 1-2 extra scenes. So it would not need to be a rushed job, and it would make a lot of sense too.

Just because you don't care for her romance doesn't mean me and many others don't.
I mean I do want the romance never said I don't care about it. It just not a big deal to me if it doesn't happen. If she is gonna have that kind of relationship then yeah I want romance. But for me the other characters are way ahead of her because they have interactions with the MC.

So for me she has no build up to get me excited. Which is why I said she needs a decent amount of time in Season 2 or probably gonna feel a little rushed to me. As even the small scenes and interactions with Viola and Pepper for example is enough for me to feel something towards them but I just don't have that feeling with Cassie due to no interactions.

Now do I think it will be rushed no cause Neon has proved he doesn't do things half assed to me. But this is just how I feel about her and the relationship she has with the MC currently.
 

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I mean I do want the romance never said I don't care about it. It just not a big deal to me if it doesn't happen. If she is gonna have that kind of relationship then yeah I want romance. But for me the other characters are way ahead of her because they have interactions with the MC.

So for me she has no build up to get me excited. Which is why I said she needs a decent amount of time in Season 2 or probably gonna feel a little rushed to me. As even the small scenes and interactions with Viola and Pepper for example is enough for me to feel something towards them but I just don't have that feeling with Cassie due to no interactions.

Now do I think it will be rushed no cause Neon has proved he doesn't do things half assed to me. But this is just how I feel about her and the relationship she has with the MC currently.
Yup. There's plenty going on in FiN that Cassie can come or go and I wouldn't remotely care and neither should Guy. She's an albatross at worst and a distraction at best.
 
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