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Nicki may not have realized it fully, but no matter how it got to that point, she used the MC’s love for her to get that payout. And she then made it clear to him that she’s doing this for Brent, to try and ensure that her relationship with Brent could continue.
Overall a really good write up here but I'd like to touch on this point specifically a little more. There's a scene where you can fuck Nicki while she's on the phone to Brent. In this scene Brent will refer to the $100K he wants Nicki to ask for. Nicki, however, lowballed the request to $20K. The exact amount of money needed to pull herself out of the debt Brent dumped them in. Nicki is not doing this for Brent. Nicki is doing this for Nicki. It's a similar song with Nicki fucking you. Brent catches a lot of shit for trying to whore Nicki out but he wasn't really down for that. He expected Nicki to bat her eyelids, maybe give you a little kiss and then you'd simp out and throw one hundred grand at her. Nicki fucking you is a Nicki choice. I think this is an interesting scene because it demonstrates that Nicki isn't a blind puppet being pulled around on Brent's strings. She has agency, she has choices and is an active participant in what happened.
 

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Overall a really good write up here but I'd like to touch on this point specifically a little more. There's a scene where you can fuck Nicki while she's on the phone to Brent. In this scene Brent will refer to the $100K he wants Nicki to ask for. Nicki, however, lowballed the request to $20K. The exact amount of money needed to pull herself out of the debt Brent dumped them in. Nicki is not doing this for Brent. Nicki is doing this for Nicki. It's a similar song with Nicki fucking you. Brent catches a lot of shit for trying to whore Nicki out but he wasn't really down for that. He expected Nicki to bat her eyelids, maybe give you a little kiss and then you'd simp out and throw one hundred grand at her. Nicki fucking you is a Nicki choice. I think this is an interesting scene because it demonstrates that Nicki isn't a blind puppet being pulled around on Brent's strings. She has agency, she has choices and is an active participant in what happened.
While you make some excellent points about that scenario. Call me a softy, Nicki simp whatever I don't know if it was cause it was a well written scene or w/e but even when she tells you the 20k is to help her and Brent out I still couldn't help but feel bad for her even if she was totally being a gold digger in that moment. Even before she told you the reason I couldn't help but feel she didn't want to do or ask whatever so was about to do / ask. I'm sure part of it has to do with it being established she is your best friend and crush and you got that feeling by the fact she hung out as a friend all night first. Honestly even tho this a porn game in that scenario I wish I had the option of giving her the money without sex the first time I played it.
 

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While you make some excellent points about that scenario. Call me a softy, Nicki simp whatever I don't know if it was cause it was a well written scene or w/e but even when she tells you the 20k is to help her and Brent out I still couldn't help but feel bad for her even if she was totally being a gold digger in that moment. Even before she told you the reason I couldn't help but feel she didn't want to do or ask whatever so was about to do / ask. I'm sure part of it has to do with it being established she is your best friend and crush and you got that feeling by the fact she hung out as a friend all night first. Honestly even tho this a porn game in that scenario I wish I had the option of giving her the money without sex the first time I played it.
Maybe you will get that chance when Neon redo the first chapter.
 
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tldr; I've been jetlagged to hell ever since I got back from my vacation, so apologies if I haven't been super responsive! I promise I'll sit down this week and reply to as many people as I can. Until then, I really appreciate everyone giving feedback, and reporting bugs, typos, and continuity errors.

Been busy doing a detailed plot map for the next update, so I don't let things spiral out of control and delay the update, while also getting scripts and sets ready for the early part of the update.

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tldr; I've been jetlagged to hell ever since I got back from my vacation, so apologies if I haven't been super responsive! I promise I'll sit down this week and reply to as many people as I can. Until then, I really appreciate everyone giving feedback, and reporting bugs, typos, and continuity errors.

Been busy doing a detailed plot map for the next update, so I don't let things spiral out of control and delay the update, while also getting scripts and sets ready for the early part of the update.

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looking forward to it when it's ready and just wanted to say this is one of my new favorite games in my top 5 for sure. I plan to replay this one regularly once in awhile while I wait for updates for your game or others.
 

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tldr; I've been jetlagged to hell ever since I got back from my vacation, so apologies if I haven't been super responsive! I promise I'll sit down this week and reply to as many people as I can. Until then, I really appreciate everyone giving feedback, and reporting bugs, typos, and continuity errors.

Been busy doing a detailed plot map for the next update, so I don't let things spiral out of control and delay the update, while also getting scripts and sets ready for the early part of the update.

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Who is that guy? Don't really remember seeing him before. :unsure:
 

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Who is that guy? Don't really remember seeing him before. :unsure:
Maybe the photographer that Nicki was working with at the start of the game when she had disappeared. I was under the impression that he was a bit older, but maybe not, that's the only person I can think of. (Or maybe the photographer that took advantage of Ashe? Don't remember if we saw what he looked like)

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They don't even look the same :LOL:
 

fleetp

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There a reason the patch isn't working? I'm getting no options outside of the normal ones.
you need to start a new save for the patch to work
I got the patch to work on an in=progress game. In the file ch4_3.rpy,
after the line
label ch4_3_variables
I immediatelyadded the line
$ patch = True

Then I loaded a saved game from when Ashe and the MC left Ashe's parents house.

Note: ALWAYS make a back-up copy of a file BEFORE making changes.
 
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Overall a really good write up here but I'd like to touch on this point specifically a little more. There's a scene where you can fuck Nicki while she's on the phone to Brent. In this scene Brent will refer to the $100K he wants Nicki to ask for. Nicki, however, lowballed the request to $20K. The exact amount of money needed to pull herself out of the debt Brent dumped them in. Nicki is not doing this for Brent. Nicki is doing this for Nicki. It's a similar song with Nicki fucking you. Brent catches a lot of shit for trying to whore Nicki out but he wasn't really down for that. He expected Nicki to bat her eyelids, maybe give you a little kiss and then you'd simp out and throw one hundred grand at her. Nicki fucking you is a Nicki choice. I think this is an interesting scene because it demonstrates that Nicki isn't a blind puppet being pulled around on Brent's strings. She has agency, she has choices and is an active participant in what happened.
Hot damn, how did I miss this? Does this phone call happen in the prologue? I've done the Nice way, the 'pay you for sex' way, and the Assault way and I don't recall that. Is this later, after she's escaped from the porno shoot?
 

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I didn't make it very far into this one, but I wanted to ask why this game has such a high rating? Does the quality just drastically improve at some point? The early sections were really not engaging me at all. I read through the reviews and I just don't understand the disconnect between what I read and what I was playing. Thanks in advance.
 

RC-1138 Boss

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I just remembered something RC-1138 Boss

The photographer that took advantage of Ashe got beat to a pulp by her dad after he found out, that could be what caused that scar? :unsure:
Maybe. :unsure:
But why would he appear now? He doesn't own the pictures anymore since Guy bought them and plus Ashe's father likely threaten to kill the guy if those pics ever surface on the net
 
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Master of Puppets

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yeah even with all the fucked up things you can do to here on the dark path with the patch it felt a little out of place for her to leave at least for a game where she feels like she is a second main character t but realistically makes sense. I'm hoping she does come back in some way though at the same time not a big deal for me since im almost always gonna play good path anyways.
I don't really like when people try to justify things with "realistically", because that's basically just saying that her sticking around would be unrealistic, and plenty of women put up with worse, and for far less financial stability than our guy offers too.
 
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