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LucioLupo

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1. and 2. are an incredibly problematic take. To properly address everything wrong with it you'd need to unravel way more than is space for here, but i'll try my best to point out what came to mind immediately for me.

Terms for sexuality are not very accurate because sexuality and the connected topics such as gender identity are all each a spectrum, not a checklist - the term gay is a catchall for all attraction to the same gender and cannot be used in the way shown here.

Sissies, femboys and traps are all male, both in body parts and in terms of self identification - if they identified as female, then none of the three would apply.
Attraction to them as a male thus means this is gay, no matter their interests in "traditionally female" topics or how they present outwards.

Denying this would lead to the conclusion that lesbians who are attracted to butch women are somehow not lesbian, rather "straight women with certain fetishes", because butch women often have interests in "traditionally male" topics and present more "male" than "female" - its in conflict with the very definition of the word AND the writings of most LGBT authors who have researched and written on the topic.

The men in ancient greek stories of pederasty, which are commonly used as THE example of gay people in antiquity in popular culture, also would not be gay if we applied the logic outlined in this comment as boys and young men do not have the features typically associated with "manliness" such as lots of bodyhair including beards, large muscles and overall larger bodies.

You can definitely be a gay man and only be interested in more feminine men, just like you can be a gay man and only be interested in hyper masculine men, thats simply the way the word is defined and you'll have to deal with femboys showing up under the gay term just as lesbians looking for femme content will have to deal with butch content showing up.

The statement that "[..]some gay men into that, but that' cuz they have those fetishes, not because they are gay." is thus simply incorrect.

Futa is a bit of a more difficult topic, however as they have male and female genitals, attraction to them means that you cannot be grouped under the term straight.

2. falls apart since 1. is already a completely incorrect point.
I think the truth stands in the middle. Greeks did not identify as gay people, and the married women. Straight people can still enjoy twinks only as sexual partners, because they are not attracted to them. Gay men, especially gay and bisexual tops, can still be attracted to the masculine features of femboys; even if some coupling patterns are more frequent than others.
 

borednephi

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I think the truth stands in the middle. Greeks did not identify as gay people, and the married women. Straight people can still enjoy twinks only as sexual partners, because they are not attracted to them. Gay men, especially gay and bisexual tops, can still be attracted to the masculine features of femboys; even if some coupling patterns are more frequent than others.
The Greeks were misogynists, culturally speaking. The male form was the ultimate of beauty and intellect. You wonder why Sappho had it rough. I wouldn't get too far down that line of thinking.

Also what we consider gay and bisexual behavior was in ancient Greece much, MUCH, more common. However as was stated there were modes that we would consider pedophilia, rape and toxic masculinity. Consent was not a thing in Greek culture, there's a lot of rape in the Greek myths for a reason.

To reframe the original statement "obligate gay males, i.e. cismales that are only attracted to masculine cismales" are indeed rare. Most common type after heterosexuals are bisexuals. A lot bisexuals are forced to "choose a side", but that doesn't change their orientation. Labels are for cans, but to reject all feminine display is rare.

 
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pilgrim2003

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The Greeks were misogynists, culturally speaking. The male form was the ultimate of beauty and intellect. You wonder why Sappho had it rough. I wouldn't get too far down that line of thinking.

Also what we consider gay and bisexual behavior was in ancient Greece much, MUCH, more common. However as was stated there were modes that we would consider pedophilia, rape and toxic masculinity. Consent was not a thing in Greek culture, there's a lot of rape in the Greek myths for a reason.

To reframe the original statement "obligate gay males, i.e. cismales that are only attracted to masculine cismales" are indeed rare. Most common type after heterosexuals are bisexuals. A lot bisexuals are forced to "choose a side", but that doesn't change their orientation. Labels are for cans, but to reject all feminine display is rare.
Sorry, but this is too much an oversimplification for an ancient nation and culture that lasted and developed for more than 900 years. Not talking about the details... Cheers :)
 

nackedsnake

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1. and 2. are an incredibly problematic take. To properly address everything wrong with it you'd need to unravel way more than is space for here, but i'll try my best to point out what came to mind immediately for me.

Terms for sexuality are not very accurate because sexuality and the connected topics such as gender identity are all each a spectrum, not a checklist - the term gay is a catchall for all attraction to the same gender and cannot be used in the way shown here.

Sissies, femboys and traps are all male, both in body parts and in terms of self identification - if they identified as female, then none of the three would apply.
Attraction to them as a male thus means this is gay, no matter their interests in "traditionally female" topics or how they present outwards.

Denying this would lead to the conclusion that lesbians who are attracted to butch women are somehow not lesbian, rather "straight women with certain fetishes", because butch women often have interests in "traditionally male" topics and present more "male" than "female" - its in conflict with the very definition of the word AND the writings of most LGBT authors who have researched and written on the topic.

The men in ancient greek stories of pederasty, which are commonly used as THE example of gay people in antiquity in popular culture, also would not be gay if we applied the logic outlined in this comment as boys and young men do not have the features typically associated with "manliness" such as lots of bodyhair including beards, large muscles and overall larger bodies.

You can definitely be a gay man and only be interested in more feminine men, just like you can be a gay man and only be interested in hyper masculine men, thats simply the way the word is defined and you'll have to deal with femboys showing up under the gay term just as lesbians looking for femme content will have to deal with butch content showing up.

The statement that "[..]some gay men into that, but that' cuz they have those fetishes, not because they are gay." is thus simply incorrect.

Futa is a bit of a more difficult topic, however as they have male and female genitals, attraction to them means that you cannot be grouped under the term straight.

2. falls apart since 1. is already a completely incorrect point.
I'm not interested in your mental gymnastics, not how you want to define "gay", nor your gender politics.
Do you even realise we are talking about porn video games?

If I want to play Bara games, I will steer away from Sissy, femboy and trap; vise versa.
If I want to play vanilla MxF games, I will steer away from Sissy, femboy and trap.
If I want to play MxF games, but don't mind the bells and whistles, I might be fine with Sissy, femboy and trap.
If I want to play YAOI games, I might be fine with from Sissy, femboy and trap.
If I want to play games with Sissy, femboy and trap, I'll do that.
If I'm curious, then there it goes.

Now tell me, How your muddling the water, help anyone to identify the audiences, develop the game, find the game you want to play ???

Young Male / Twinks are still male with masculine features, just less "manliness". Feminine men in real life are still "men".
While Sissy, Femboy and Trap are all about their feminine feats, with packages like transformation / humiliation / deception / etc.

And You said my point 2 is a "problematic take", do you imply that Gay men is not in minority, and Most porn games are actually made for Gay? :ROFLMAO:
You said it's a "spectrum" (which I agree), yet you say you are either "Straight" or "Gay"??? :ROFLMAO:
 

GoldenLamp

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yea.. I think it's best to reitarate that most are just asking for better tags. so for example; make it so a completely staight game with one trap character won't show up if you are searching for mlm (I personally have been dissapointed too many times by situations like this).
Hell, the bad tag system is the whole reason this thread exists.
 

KekKoo

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yea.. I think it's best to reitarate that most are just asking for better tags. so for example; make it so a completely staight game with one trap character won't show up if you are searching for mlm (I personally have been dissapointed too many times by situations like this).
Hell, the bad tag system is the whole reason this thread exists.
Not only all of this, but last I checked, they were finally working on a new tag system, but I read about that.. how many months ago exactly? I hope it's been being worked on in all this time instead of just starting/laying out the groundwork, and then leaving it to collect dust..
 
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GoldenLamp

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Not only all of this, but last I checked, they were finally working on a new tag system, but I read about that.. how many months ago exactly? I hope it's been being worked on in all this time instead of just starting/laying out the groundwork, and then leaving it to collect dust..
please, don't get my hopes up. also do you remember where you read that?
 

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god damn it, that looks great. But it's been almost a year D:
We don't even know in which year they'll update the site.

So yeah, this thread is an useful guide. I still do the old manual way, list for gay tag, and see the banner/description/first page of comments.
  • If the game banner show boobs, the less gay it will be. The bigger the boobs, the less gay content you'll find. That's a first sign.
  • Then the description, usually mention if it's a gay focused game. If it doesn't, expect 1 or 2 casual encounters with men. There are some bisexual games, but those are rare, at least for men.
  • And third, look at the comments if the game still confuse you.
  • And usually the screenshots gives an approximate idea, so that too.
 

borednephi

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I feel bad for the weird pedantic discussion on gender. I was an archaeology major :cry:...

Anywho when I see "gay" as a tag, I'm hoping/praying it's cis men fucking other cis men. Sissy, trap, feminization is not gay IMO. A gay male is a homosexual; they love penis so much they have one.
 
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