Getting F95 and Patreon interest

CaptainBipto

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What would be the reason for you or someone else to not try the game and/or becoming a member on Patreon? Is it one of the reasons above? Is it something else?

Any input is more than welcome!
As one of those players that you are asking about here are a few reasons I probably won't play or even try your game.
Just remember this is only one A-holes opinion.

First thing, is that AI art doesn't bother me. You won't find me running around screaming the 'AI slop' mantra that most AI haters seem to be chanting. /Shrug I really don't care. As long as the art looks good, is consistent with the characters, and the images don't have fits with extra fingers/toes/missing bits and bobs, I am perfectly fine with AI art in a game.

Main reasons I probably just won't play your game:
1. It's a Visual Novel.
2. Slow burn.
3. Not that interested in VN's, right now, unless they tick off a whole bunch of kinks for me.

For myself, visual novels are just boring as hell, to me, right now. Clicking the next button, reading 1 or 2 lines of text at a time, and having to make 'moral choices' about characters I have no clue about just does not do it for me right now. Story is great and a great story is awesome, but when I am going to be spoon fed tiny bits at a time, it just doesn't interest me right now.

Here are a couple examples of games and game play that I am interested in right now: Space Journey X Yuna: Reborn
1st game is just fun as hell, has plenty of 'things to do' other than chase the next porn scene and I have been playing it off and on for a few months now.
2nd game I just downloaded 2 or 3 days ago and it is hard as fuck to get anywhere without dying. It has an insanely high starting difficulty and has led to much frustration on my part (too impatient), but it still ticks off a whole bunch of game play AND kinks that I like.

Even though I don't have any interest in your game, I am quite certain that there are plenty of people that do and will enjoy your game. As, others have said, you will need patience and persistence with your game. If you just give up because your 'fantastically magnificient' isn't garnering as much attention as 'those other slop AI' games, people will probably end up waiting even longer before engaging with any new game you try just to 'wait and see' if you stick with it or abandon it.

How ever things go for you, good luck with your game.
 

peterppp

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i'm not an ai fan overall, ntr phone game or not, so wouldn't play your game anyway, but what is immediately off-putting to me before even seeing the game is your pfp as you're using the same done-to-death emma watson lookalike, version #98723478347. looks like she is also heavily present in the game. it just screams unoriginality to me aside from not liking her look to begin with. no idea if other people feel the same and this affects their willingness to support you.

that character aside, i think your art is pretty good for being ai, so i dont think your visuals have that much to do with your lack of meteoric ascent to richdom. but you need something that makes players want to play your game instead of countless others.
 

Living In A Lewd World

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I’ve tried your game, and for my personal taste, regardless of my own kinks, there isn't enough visual storytelling. The image-sequences are the first thing, that draw me into a VN but here they felt rather generic and didn't really convey what's happening, I didn't get immersed at all. And if I just wanted to read an (amateur) erotic story, I would rather go to Literotica, where there are tons of free stories available.

The blinking effects in some images didn’t really work for me either. They feel mechanical, like a doll trying to seem human but missing something essential, which lands it rather in the uncanny valley and makes it more distracting than sensual. “Fashion Business” does the same, and it creates the same feeling for me there as well.

That doesn’t mean it won’t work commercially, of course. But for now, it just doesn’t quite catch my eye. Adult VNs on Patreon tend to be long-term commitments rather than instant successes after a couple of months, and it’s often hard to predict whether a project will eventually take off or end up among the many that never reach significant income. That’s simply the risk that comes along with making one.
 

Goeffel

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OK, I have come to realise I apparently have not been subjected to AI art as much as many others, so it is not yet as much "generic" to me. :p
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The following is an interesting read imo. : a dev giving insight into their making and marketing attempts.
It is however not comparable or applicable to 99% of resident developers, as he is mainly publishing on dlsite.
Still an interesting read, maybe one can even take some info from it, and he is very open about his work and experiences.

Thread 'SURVIVAL JOURNEY of a H game DEV'
 

PStonix

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In order to increase sales, you need to target a market with lower supply or higher demand. But in the context of establishing a brand on the market, supply is much more important than demand. If the market is smaller, promotion is much cheaper or, in this case, simpler.

In the case of porn games, the easiest way to achieve this is through tagging. Unfortunately for you, both ren'py and VN are tags with the largest number of games.

Focus on adding distinctive elements to your production. In addition, you must unfortunately remember that in the porn game market, you are competing not only with other players but with the movies themselves. In my opinion, this reduces the importance of the kinks themselves and increases the importance of tags related to game mechanics.

The easiest mechanics to add to ren'py are probably resource management or other statistics. Although I have only played about 10-20 games from the forum so far, I have searched for specific tags many times.

Another issue is making the main post stand out. I've looked through well over 200 threads, and your game appeared in the recently updated ones, so I checked it out because the graphics were nice enough, but
there was nothing in it that made it stand out or convinced me to play it.
The only relatively pretty rare tag is probably parody. The description just sounds bad, and when you run it through a detector, it's 100% written by AI. For God's sake, if you're creating a novel, you have to be able to write well in English, otherwise you don't stand a chance. At least write a decent description!