VN Ren'Py Giant Guardians [v0.3.84] [Giant Guardians]

[dragonicLair]

It’s a very straightforward character with margarita in terms of character and her story, no real choices, no real motivation of being on her route with it being Disney like… such a shame of how GG has fallen

"such a shame of how GG has fallen" as compared to what? It's hard to read the shit you write sometimes because it comes off as extremely pretentious, first-year university student who has taken 1 literature class level. what exactly has fallen and how. You complain the game is linear compared to what exactly? triple-A title with multiple writers and years of development with various artists to do art? A personalized DND campaign? What is your basis? A purely text-based choose your own adventure? What supreme material are you measuring this game to? Have we completely deluded ourselves into thinking any of this is easy or not at all time-consuming?
Like what are you comparing this to, what other vns have you played where you have such an insane web of choices where you are so confident to speak like this? Or are you just a midwit who thinks being critical makes you intelligent while having little to no experience otherwise?
Or maybe you are just jaded that despite trying you haven't created anything of worth or value to anyone and acting like this gives you power in the pathetic existence you call a life.

 

[Silver_Crow117]

"such a shame of how GG has fallen" as compared to what? It's hard to read the shit you write sometimes because it comes off as extremely pretentious, first-year university student who has taken 1 literature class level. what exactly has fallen and how. You complain the game is linear compared to what exactly? triple-A title with multiple writers and years of development with various artists to do art? A personalized DND campaign? What is your basis? A purely text-based choose your own adventure? What supreme material are you measuring this game to? Have we completely deluded ourselves into thinking any of this is easy or not at all time-consuming?
Like what are you comparing this to, what other vns have you played where you have such an insane web of choices where you are so confident to speak like this? Or are you just a midwit who thinks being critical makes you intelligent while having little to no experience otherwise?
Or maybe you are just jaded that despite trying you haven't created anything of worth or value to anyone and acting like this gives you power in the pathetic existence you call a life.

Looks like your butt hurt man, it’s okay to keep defending this “fake freedom of choice’ game when in fact they themselves promote it as one of the most interactive visual novels… gosh man, try and do better!! your making yourself look super insecure/Sensative with all these personal insults towards someone online… your such a keyboard warrior with all these critiques of my writing when were on a pirate site. this isn’t an English class last time I checked, and I don’t have to give any explanation to someone (especially the likes of you) about what me and others have expressed about this games negative points… (because maybe they’ve been expressed already…) maybe you should go take a class of therapy cuz it sounds like you need it with how aggressive you are

 

[BlackWaltersFedora]

I just want to say how much I love the Margarita route! It’s easily one of the most interesting parts of the game for me. The “faithful” path feels so wholesome and sweet, showing Margarita as a kind, caring partner who sometimes takes on more than she should. But the “cheating” path does a great job twisting her love and devotion into something obsessive, desperate, and unsettling as she starts unraveling.

It’s interesting how the exact same scenes (like taking clothes measurements while MC is sleeping and giving gifts, taking care of chores the MC would be much better suited for, or just going out of her way for them) can feel innocent and loving in one route but suffocating and uncomfortable in the other. That contrast makes exploring both paths so rewarding, especially when happy or lighthearted moments in the faithful route take on this tense, eerie vibe in the cheating one.

I think it’s a bit of a shame that some people might only play one route or miss out by triggering a death scene too early in the unfaithful path and think "oh it was just a quick game over route" when it's almost the same length as the other. The cheating route (at least for me) became more like reading a horror story, and left on a tense cliffhanger. I really hope they continue writing both paths soon, I need to know what happens to her friends!

I wish her faithful route had some bleed through of her obsessive nature. It just kinda disappears ):
+I really think it would be dope if, if you are faithful she starts to doubt you a little. Imagine if Marg ended up cheating on you by herself and that sub-path would end up branching together with the current unfaithful path.
(We know from the beginning of her route she tends to obsess over stuff like the whole "finding my destined partner")

 

[Sr.Nobody14]

Desearía que su ruta fiel tuviera algo de sangrado a través de su naturaleza obsesiva. Simplemente desaparece un poco ):
+realmente creo que sería una droga si, si eres fiel, ella comienza a dudar un poco de ti. Imagínate si Marg terminara engañándote sola y ese camino secundario terminaría ramificándose junto con el camino infiel actual.
(Sabemos que desde el comienzo de su ruta tiende a obsesionarse con cosas como todo el "encontrar a mi pareja destinada")
[/CITA]
It could be, it could be, it's not bad, I just would like him to realize his "OBSESSION", for example I love Maryel because she knows that it is a side of her that she should not hide and making her happy by cooperating with her to keep it under control is a good point regarding sadism, something similar could be applied...

 

[Komdot]

I found the game very confusing, it doesn't explain anything about the game world and acts as if you already know everything, I've played a few hours and I still haven't figured out how the giants are born, or why there are only female giants and other things, it's all kind of thrown into the story. However, I discovered that femdom isn't my fetish, and not having penetration scenes is really missing from porn.

 

[Chumgum]

I found the game very confusing, it doesn't explain anything about the game world and acts as if you already know everything, I've played a few hours and I still haven't figured out how the giants are born, or why there are only female giants and other things, it's all kind of thrown into the story. However, I discovered that femdom isn't my fetish, and not having penetration scenes is really missing from porn.

It's not an unheard of trope to have a race of only women, like harpies,lamias and amazons. Another reason there might not be male giants is for gameplay purposes. I said it once before, it'd be pretty difficult for a regular human to compete with a guy that has a cock the size of a bus.

 

[Fade567]

I found the game very confusing, it doesn't explain anything about the game world and acts as if you already know everything, I've played a few hours and I still haven't figured out how the giants are born, or why there are only female giants and other things, it's all kind of thrown into the story. However, I discovered that femdom isn't my fetish, and not having penetration scenes is really missing from porn.

Males giants don't exist in GG because that's simply how nature works in the GG universe and mainly because the devs aren't fans of male giants so they're probably never going to exist.

 

[ControllerMan]

"such a shame of how GG has fallen" as compared to what? It's hard to read the shit you write sometimes because it comes off as extremely pretentious, first-year university student who has taken 1 literature class level. what exactly has fallen and how. You complain the game is linear compared to what exactly? triple-A title with multiple writers and years of development with various artists to do art? A personalized DND campaign? What is your basis? A purely text-based choose your own adventure? What supreme material are you measuring this game to? Have we completely deluded ourselves into thinking any of this is easy or not at all time-consuming?
Like what are you comparing this to, what other vns have you played where you have such an insane web of choices where you are so confident to speak like this? Or are you just a midwit who thinks being critical makes you intelligent while having little to no experience otherwise?
Or maybe you are just jaded that despite trying you haven't created anything of worth or value to anyone and acting like this gives you power in the pathetic existence you call a life.

Bro, i think Silvercrow is just being sarcastic.

 

[Possetermath]

Males giants don't exist in GG because that's simply how nature works in the GG universe and mainly because the devs aren't fans of male giants so they're probably never going to exist.

" Speculating on why there are not as many female macrophiles, psychologist

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theorized that women who already view men as dominant and powerful have no need to fantasize about it. "

The 'Giant Males for the Pleasure of Hetero Women' fanfiction niche remains as small as ever. I believe the broader appeal of dominant, strong, and physically imposing male characters already satisfies much of the demand in female oriented ( I'm talking commercially) fiction.
Making the male character as massive as King Kong might actually overshoot the intended fantasy, making it less relatable or desirable for most readers.
You might get some fairy fuckers, but I would guess it's absolutely not intended for the ladies.

This kind of extreme size difference fantasy might have more natural appeal in homoerotic fiction, but the authors don't swing that way , so say goodbye to Truck Canister Dick and say hello to the HILLS

 

[Spontaneous combustion]

I found the game very confusing, it doesn't explain anything about the game world and acts as if you already know everything, I've played a few hours and I still haven't figured out how the giants are born, or why there are only female giants and other things, it's all kind of thrown into the story. However, I discovered that femdom isn't my fetish, and not having penetration scenes is really missing from porn.

Allow me to fill all the gaps in lore that are troubling you:
1) How the giants are born. Yes
2) Why there are only female giants. Yes
That's how the game treats such questions. Characters just say "It works like that, duh", but that's it. Nothing more.

 

[Spontaneous combustion]

" Speculating on why there are not as many female macrophiles, psychologist

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theorized that women who already view men as dominant and powerful have no need to fantasize about it. "

The 'Giant Males for the Pleasure of Hetero Women' fanfiction niche remains as small as ever. I believe the broader appeal of dominant, strong, and physically imposing male characters already satisfies much of the demand in female oriented ( I'm talking commercially) fiction.
Making the male character as massive as King Kong might actually overshoot the intended fantasy, making it less relatable or desirable for most readers.
You might get some fairy fuckers, but I would guess it's absolutely not intended for the ladies.

This kind of extreme size difference fantasy might have more natural appeal in homoerotic fiction, but the authors don't swing that way , so say goodbye to Truck Canister Dick and say hello to the HILLS

This argument does sound logical. However, it doesn't explain why is weight gain fetish so popular for example. People don't really need to fantasize much about it, now do they?

 

[Spontaneous combustion]

"such a shame of how GG has fallen" as compared to what?

Compared to its older self at least. While it's fair to admit that back when the story only had its skeleton, it was hard to determine whether it is good or not, but even technical part is getting much less attention lately, also the narrative skills don't seem to improve with time. Yes, there are some "pearls", scenes that actually work, but those that are soured by terrible writing are still here as same as they were a few years ago, when it was still acceptable.

You complain the game is linear compared to what exactly? triple-A title with multiple writers and years of development with various artists to do art? A personalized DND campaign? What is your basis? A purely text-based choose your own adventure?

The way I see problem with GG being linear is how it makes an impression of not being one. The choices you are given do not lead to expected results. Take Nezumicon for example. Basically same basis for the story telling, but in there you, as player, are tied to MC's own character. All you can do is to maneuver just a little bit to have different scenes, but not making Cesar someone else.
GG takes it much further. You can dissuade Regina from war, you can let dark side of Maryen to go all out or keep controlling herself, you can talk Madea out of being a second Guardian. All of these examples however don't decide anything. It's just decorative scale of choices that will still lead to the only possible outcome.

 

[confusedreamer]

Compared to its older self at least. While it's fair to admit that back when the story only had its skeleton, it was hard to determine whether it is good or not, but even technical part is getting much less attention lately, also the narrative skills don't seem to improve with time. Yes, there are some "pearls", scenes that actually work, but those that are soured by terrible writing are still here as same as they were a few years ago, when it was still acceptable.


The way I see problem with GG being linear is how it makes an impression of not being one. The choices you are given do not lead to expected results. Take Nezumicon for example. Basically same basis for the story telling, but in there you, as player, are tied to MC's own character. All you can do is to maneuver just a little bit to have different scenes, but not making Cesar someone else.
GG takes it much further. You can dissuade Regina from war, you can let dark side of Maryen to go all out or keep controlling herself, you can talk Madea out of being a second Guardian. All of these examples however don't decide anything. It's just decorative scale of choices that will still lead to the only possible outcome.

Agreed, Cesar remains Cesar regardless of your choices. He is still horny af regardless of whether you choose to let him act out on it, he knows pop culture and video games regardless of whether you choose to let him speak about it, and he is a prankster and troll even if you choose to keep his mouth shut.

The MC from GG gets his personality decided by your choices, and you choose what he knows, whether he's strong/weak (like in Naya's route for instance with her sex training) or intelligent/dumb, scared/courageous and so on. The problem is that there's little consequence to all this, which makes the chill routes (Margarita's faithful route, Timalfalme castle route and Vai'Klis routes for instance) seem like what the game was intended to be.

 

[whiteoaktree87]

Is margarita the only yandere giant?

 

[Sr.Nobody14]

Is margarita the only yandere giant?

Define yandere, if she is a sadistic girl who only wants you to be with her then Margarita is the only one who has that obsession, on the other hand if she is only a sadist then Yakuu, Nixmay and Kendra fall into that category.

 

[Sr.Nobody14]

Males giants don't exist in GG because that's simply how nature works in the GG universe and mainly because the devs aren't fans of male giants so they're probably never going to exist.

Thank goodness, for some strange reason they repel me. As for what they said, it would be very difficult if the main character competed with giant men, he already has it difficult because he is a weak purebred human, just what a coincidence that he has a rich taste for most girls of Homaspernia and Licalis, and just his purity in soul also makes him attractive, the main character is quite unique.

 

[Sr.Nobody14]

Allow me to fill all the gaps in lore that are troubling you:
1) How the giants are born. Yes
2) Why there are only female giants. Yes
That's how the game treats such questions. Characters just say "It works like that, duh", but that's it. Nothing more.

They don't investigate why... it's natural for them, it's their world as it is, they have enough problems as it is for them to wonder "Hey, my lifelong neighbor is a giant, mmmmm why are there only giant women?" For them it's as natural as water getting wet... Besides, they already explained that 1) the difference between giants and normal ones besides size is their longevity. 2) big girls have difficulties having children, even a purebred like the MC who is as compatible as possible with giants will have difficulties fertilizing (eg, it took Margarita's parents 10 YEARS to have Margarita, poor guy xd).

They also explain magic, the different types of magic, key places, kingdoms,races of people...you can find gargoyles, goblins, succubi, demons BEES etc... so saying that it doesn't have lore is going too far.

 

[Sr.Nobody14]

Compared to its older self at least. While it's fair to admit that back when the story only had its skeleton, it was hard to determine whether it is good or not, but even technical part is getting much less attention lately, also the narrative skills don't seem to improve with time. Yes, there are some "pearls", scenes that actually work, but those that are soured by terrible writing are still here as same as they were a few years ago, when it was still acceptable.


The way I see problem with GG being linear is how it makes an impression of not being one. The choices you are given do not lead to expected results. Take Nezumicon for example. Basically same basis for the story telling, but in there you, as player, are tied to MC's own character. All you can do is to maneuver just a little bit to have different scenes, but not making Cesar someone else.
GG takes it much further. You can dissuade Regina from war, you can let dark side of Maryen to go all out or keep controlling herself, you can talk Madea out of being a second Guardian. All of these examples however don't decide anything. It's just decorative scale of choices that will still lead to the only possible outcome.

but it changes everything completely, for example let's take the case of Maryen, what happens if we let her go a little overboard with her dark side? Maybe in the future at a given moment she will BETRAY Keisiema, an example like that, no matter how "decorative" a change is, the domino effect applies.

 

[Sr.Nobody14]

Agreed, Cesar remains Cesar regardless of your choices. He is still horny af regardless of whether you choose to let him act out on it, he knows pop culture and video games regardless of whether you choose to let him speak about it, and he is a prankster and troll even if you choose to keep his mouth shut.

The MC from GG gets his personality decided by your choices, and you choose what he knows, whether he's strong/weak (like in Naya's route for instance with her sex training) or intelligent/dumb, scared/courageous and so on. The problem is that there's little consequence to all this, which makes the chill routes (Margarita's faithful route, Timalfalme castle route and Vai'Klis routes for instance) seem like what the game was intended to be.

good point, It all depends on how the story will continue, after all... it is incomplete, they rush too much into drawing those conclusions being in X version of the game, how Regina or Naya will act according to "our decisions" will be crucial whether they want it or not, calming and helping to relax Naya can have a positive effect in the long run (even without wanting to, thanks to our actions we will make her more efficient in her job as matriarch of Licalis... for example).

 

[confusedreamer]

Is margarita the only yandere giant?

Marg's the "yandere" yandere, you will get what you expect. However, if unhinged possessiveness is your jam Nyxmay might be for you, she will decide eventually in her route that she likes him and will keep him literally chained to her soul. If you are looking for somewhat gentle possessiveness, Pyeka falls into that category as she's cruel to most tinies but treats MC as her pet. Finally if you want something more gentle than that there's Vai'Klis, who is soft-spoken and never cruel or hurts tinies but will put MC between her buttcheeks if she gets jealous.