It's one of the countless instances of this game setting up something interesting and then losing any interest in actually pursuing it. Sub-Haley was a fascinating character. The MC wasn't interested. So...pursue that! But no, the thread just dies on the vine. Endgame Haley isn't getting the mouth gag or the whip, she's just getting contractions.
You are correct that those are the challenges to be solved. That could be a good plot how to overcome all those obstacles. For example, they could emigrate to a country which is more relaxed on all those things, like it was done in Sisterly Lust by Perveteer,
I believe they could find a solution. IRL people have all kinds of challenges and they deal with them (or not, if they are weak).
It is mostly a figure of speech. Quite romantic, if you ask me, though some people can have different opinions
Sure. So GIVE US ONE. You can close your eyes and imagine solutions. So could anyone creative. The game never bothered, it just stopped.
That doesn't mean that OP's opinion is invalid. And I agree with OP.
I gave you one. From Sisterly Lust game. Have you read my comment at all?
Yes, why not? We are playing pron games here, not trying to find solution for the global economy crisis
I have not played the Haley solo route, but your questions are easy enough to answer.
Inventing a nonexistent paradise for unconvential relationships? Yes, both Sisterly Lust and Dating My Daughter did this to finish off their storylines, because it's the easiest possible way out. The bonus is that you don't have to deal with the actual consequences of an incestuous relationship. The drawback is that it's transparent BS. "And today, King Charles declared the United Kingdom an incest-welcoming realm, which was quickly endorsed by Parliament and the Prime Minister" is an ending, but it's not a thoughtful or interesting one.
Such a cop-out. Do you always roll over this easily? Haley's Story was great specifically because of the realism of its core relationship, in opposition to a zillion incest games in which what happens while sleep-raping your sisters/mother/aunt until they succumb in real life somehow never extends beyond the walls of your house.Yes, why not? We are playing pron games here, not trying to find solution for the global economy crisis
It's absolutely not, though it's the easiest one. The more obvious one — and if there's an incest game that has tried this, please let me know — is the name change/move solution. But then they have to at least come out to their parents first. It doesn't seem that this was ever considered as an option, no matter how clear it is that dad's figured it out.
I'm just wondering, if you are so keen on realism, what are you doing on this site?
Why do you even believe that I'm interested in a pissing competition with you or care for your opinion about myself?
I'm actually quite keen on games that openly attempt realism, which the first half of Haley's Story did. It's why it was, at the time, one of my favorite VNs. It didn't work out that way, which is why my disappointment in this particular game is keener than it would have been if the story's ambitions had been more unrealistic.
Didn't DmD actually do that? I don't really think that the place they moved to was "incest paradise", but that the paperwork was easy over there. IIRC, one of the guys who help Mr. Dots with the writing is actually a lawyer. And DmD did quite extensively go into the legal details.
I don't think so; they went to Magic Incest Island to get married, which the game made into a much bigger deal that it needed to, but after that they moved back to wherever it was they'd been staying. Or, at least, that's my recollection; I admit that I kinda checked out of that game long before I actually finished it.
On this I agree with you. But it is rather due to poor writing skills of the Devs, rather than being "unrealistic". You can write an exciting unrealistic story (i.e. science fiction or high fantasy) which will be applauded by even the most demanding readers.
In a library, for example.Wasn't that Sisterly Lust? I didn't play DmD, still stuck on Melody, the Dev's style is good but rather tedious.
Again, hazy memory, but I think you're right: Sisterly Lust ends with the family decamping to some magical land where anything goes, and others join them depending on what/who you did during the main portion of the game.
There were lots of words said about the rushed ending of this game, including in this thread. You may add a lot more or cry as much as you want, it doesn't change anything.
Heaven forfend we should discuss a game in a game discussion thread!
i never said that. In fact, I said the exact opposite, and more than once.
In this case I misunderstood you. I thought that you were arguing against the solo Haley ending because you didn't formulate your arguments clear enough.
I'm "arguing against" it because it's not good, not because it couldn't have been. I was very clear about that on multiple occasions.
Because new players arrived and were wondering about the endings.
Whereas I'd argue that because there are two forced relationships in the game, there's significance to the other one. Yes, you can get out of one of them (and eventually, if you're enough of an asshole, get out of both of them). The part of that supposition that's related to the endings is not only that Haley + Sandra plays out as if actual thought had been given to it, but that by the end, Sandra has a relationship (not necessarily a sexual one) with almost every other important character in the game.
Great. Then you know what to do!
