Ren'Py Heavy Five [Ch.2RS] [Nottravis]

[Huitieme]

Heeeeeyyyyyy I not complaining. I saying even though graphics not a priority for me I really appreciate the effort she putting in to create best game she can. It would be very selfish to expect a cheap ass patron like me have developer cater everything to my tastes and ignore everyone else's and their own expectations.

I must be a little off today a few times people read what I trying to say the total opposite way to intended.

I think you just got kinda caught in the crossfire since your icon has similar colour.

I plead guilty -_-

 

[noname777]

"Finished" does not mean "released".

Do you think that Gumdrop's games are finished, just not released?
Maybe he hold back with releasing his games just to give his fans more excitement? What do you think?

While this is true, let me remind you that no one is your personal slave entertainment provider and thus does not have to justify themself to you. Not Notty, nor any other dev. I know it may feel like the devs owe us something, since after all, a few of us give them money, others give useful criticism, etc. But ultimately, devs owe us nothing. Zip, nada, nichts. The end of the matter is that they are the creator of a product we wish to enjoy, so the power is all their. Getting frustrated because of a lack of release is one thing, starting to point accusingly is quite another.

So could you explain me why a lot people here hate Gumdrop so much? He doesn't owe anything to anybody, including his patreons. People are free to support him or not, but according to your words, they are not allowed to expect anything from him, because he isn't their slave/bitch. A lot of them didn't even spent a cent for his game, but they already wanted to ban him from Patreon and Steam. Why? Why do people hate creators who put quality over quantity? Do you think it is because of jealousy? Or is it something else?

And she does accept that. And so do we (the Defenders™). We do accept that everyone won't be happy with this. Heck, I'm not happy with this, since I would like to play the new chapters already. But this is happening anyway, so the choice is yours now: either you accept it and go your merry way, or you don't and spend more time talking about it. Ultimately, it won't change a single thing, except that negative energy is going to give you ulcers, which would benefit no one.

I didn't ask her to change her mind. I do not insist on it.
I only expressed my opinion and now I defend it after a few people here jumped at me.

Ultimately, it won't change a single thing, except that negative energy is going to give you ulcers, which would benefit no one.

So, in the other words: "You are free to like it or not, but if you don't, just shut up"?

Please, just Gumdrop it.

Why? Do you have any negative feelings about him?

Or maybe you could ask her directly (and maybe you did). And according to her answer, you'll decide if she deserves or not your $1. Way I see it, you don't owe her anything, and in return, she doesn't owe you anything. The perfect relationship.

I asked her several times (here and in PM). At first she claimed that she would make the previous chapters available for free. Then she said that she will put Chapter 2 in Tier 1 soon. Finally, she said that she will put Chapter 2&3 in Tier 1 when Chapter 4 will be released. I'm ok with this, but as you can see, this date increasingly moving away. That's why I'm a little disappointed.

Where we disagree is when you spend multiple posts making blatantly trollish comparisons.

What is wrong with valid comparisons?

How is it any different from the vast majority of games here? Or series? Or books trilogy where the third books is years late? (looking at you, Patrick Rothfuss è_é)
Serialized stories tend to have this issue. You can't both have and eat your cake which is a lie anyway

I have to disagree with you. Not all games are like that. I will give you two examples: Chloe18 and Milfy City. These games are huge. Both of them have a lot of content. But to be honest, they are no so demanding. You don't have to know the whole universe to enjoy them.
H5 is different. It's like TLJ (The Longest Journey), but with many paths. It is not linear. You have to read notes and listen carefully to all conversations because they can affect your future choices. This is a huge difference.
We have a similar situation with Tlaero's games. They are semi-linear, with one canonical path and a few others. But you still have to be very careful about your choices and you have to listen what other characters say. I enjoyed all Tlaero-Phreaky games as well as Mortze's Pandora and all games from Elsa universe. But I gave up on all episodic ones. I knew that I would not be able to enjoy them in this form.

If you feel the need to leave and come back later when there is more content, feel free to do so.

That's what I'm going to do.

 

[noname777]

Do the math please. With two months per chapter it's summer or fall of 2020 for the finished game.

I'd understand you having doubts, but I don't consider the judgements you are making to be fair.

Two months.

Wanna make a bet? Oh, I have a better idea: If Notty fails to release the complete game (including the update with female MC) by December 31, 2020, then you will become a Gumdrop subscriber (Tier 4 - $20/month) for the next year. Agree?

 

[Sinphil]

I plead guilty -_-

I forgive you...but only because I looking forward to Vinland.

 

[Nottravis]

I'll read and respond to comments all in one go tomorrow. As of now I'm still seeking further intelligent and informed views on my post.

However, in the meantime I've remained busy.



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...and the major characters (so far...) "talk boxes". They need a little bit of tweaking but still a damned sight better than what we have now I think



Not settled on the C7 and VR chars background yet.

See you tomorrow for fun and frolics I'm sure. Laters!

 

[noname777]

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It probably doesn't matter, but I preferred the older one.

 

[Akamari]

I'll read and respond to comments all in one go tomorrow. As of now I'm still seeking further intelligent and informed views on my post.

However, in the meantime I've remained busy.

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Awesome entrance, Innie!

...and the major characters (so far...) "talk boxes". They need a little bit of tweaking but still a damned sight better than what we have now I think

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Oooh! Hello Karen! Very neat little feature indeed!

 

[Huitieme]

I forgive you...but only because I looking forward to Vinland.

Don't! For all you know, I could be scamming you!

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Also, I notice you've changed your avatar ^^

 

[noname777]

Be careful with that.

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I'm warning you.

 

[somebodynobody]

I'll read and respond to comments all in one go tomorrow. As of now I'm still seeking further intelligent and informed views on my post.

However, in the meantime I've remained busy.

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...and the major characters (so far...) "talk boxes". They need a little bit of tweaking but still a damned sight better than what we have now I think

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Not settled on the C7 and VR chars background yet.

See you tomorrow for fun and frolics I'm sure. Laters!

I like the new ship image, slightly miss the planet, and wonder where the front illumination is coming from.

Man Marcus got a sourpuss face. Makes me sad he isn't at least neutral looking.

Also why are Annie and Karen from the one of the mechanicus orders?

 

[DA22]

I'll read and respond to comments all in one go tomorrow. As of now I'm still seeking further intelligent and informed views on my post.

However, in the meantime I've remained busy.

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...and the major characters (so far...) "talk boxes". They need a little bit of tweaking but still a damned sight better than what we have now I think

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Not settled on the C7 and VR chars background yet.

See you tomorrow for fun and frolics I'm sure. Laters!

Looking good your Nottyliciousness, especially Karen and Annie ones look very good and the ship is also quite smexy

 

[DA22]

I like the new ship image, slightly miss the planet, and wonder where the front illumination is coming from.

Man Marcus got a sourpuss face. Makes me sad he isn't at least neutral looking.

Also why are Annie and Karen from the one of the mechanicus orders?

Well Notty might have some weird liking and preference for engineers considering her background. We will see likely in chapter 4 or later why she is an engineer. I am guessing chapter 5 though, since the entrance of the new members would make a great cliffhanger for the end of an episode. Soap anyone?

 

[Akamari]

Well Notty might have some weird liking and preference for engineers considering her background. We will see likely in chapter 4 or later why she is an engineer. I am guessing chapter 5 though, since the entrance of the new members would make a great cliffhanger for the end of an episode. Soap anyone?

That's a Chief Petty Officer rank badge. Nothing to do with engineering. Also, if you speak about Karen, her entrance is in Chapter One.

 

[DA22]

That's a Chief Petty Officer rank badge. Nothing to do with engineering.

So you are telling me I can not have sexy time with her without Chris and the army trying to blueball me? Woe is me.

Edit: I move for an immediate field promotion for both Karen and Annie. They deserve it.

 

[Akamari]

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Wellity, wellity, wellity...

I had a feeling there is more to the new render besides being incredibly gorgeous. I was finally able to avert my gaze from Annie and...

Spoiler: there I saw it...

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I love that you are remastering the shit out of little details as well!

 

[Huitieme]

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Until now, I thought you were just another normal user of the forum with whom I could disagree but didn't think were an ass. I must admit I'm starting to lean toward the latter. I pondered about answering you in private, but decided against it. Let this be my last word on the matter.

Do you think that Gumdrop's games are finished, just not released?
Maybe he hold back with releasing his games just to give his fans more excitement? What do you think?

So could you explain me why a lot people here hate Gumdrop so much? He doesn't owe anything to anybody, including his patreons. People are free to support him or not, but according to your words, they are not allowed to expect anything from him, because he isn't their slave/bitch. A lot of them didn't even spent a cent for his game, but they already wanted to ban him from Patreon and Steam. Why? Why do people hate creators who put quality over quantity? Do you think it is because of jealousy? Or is it something else?

Dude, what's your obsession with the guy? It's getting creepy.

I'll try to answer seriously. I don't know the guy, I don't play his game and I would be unable to tell you its title if I don't search for it first o the forum. I don't even want to talk about it, because I'd rather not falsely accuse someone I don't know for things I have absolutely no interest in. But I can talk about Nottravis.

Nottravis is either a great person or a great actor. Could be both. Her interaction with pirates and patrons is always funny, interesting, exciting and longed-for. Most of us are following her since she first launched the game, few of us knew her before that (Ava, for example), and we all saw her grow from then. We worried when she was sick and couldn't contact us, not because of the fear of losing a great game in the making but because she made that much of an impact on us. We still worry when she tries what she's doing now (taking upon herself to work extra), still not because of the game, but because we don't want her to burn out. Because we care. I don't know Gumdrop, so I can't say what his relationship is with his fans, but to us, Notty matters as a human being first, and as a dev second.

I didn't ask her to change her mind. I do not insist on it.
I only expressed my opinion and now I defend it after a few people here jumped at me.
So, in the other words: "You are free to like it or not, but if you don't, just shut up"?

Wasn't my meaning, but feel free to do so.

Why? Do you have any negative feelings about him?

See above.

I asked her several times (here and in PM). At first she claimed that she would make the previous chapters available for free. Then she said that she will put Chapter 2 in Tier 1 soon. Finally, she said that she will put Chapter 2&3 in Tier 1 when Chapter 4 will be released. But as you can see, this date increasingly moving away. That's why I'm a little disappointed.

This! This is the only part of your message that holds any substance. This is the heart of the matter and this is why I still wish to believe you're not a fucktard but really just a disappointed guy that tries to be heard among us fans who might have lost perspective, blind as we are by Notty's greatness (slight exaggeration, but you get what I mean). So yeah, I get what you mean. Doesn't matter if devs are actually our bitch or not, doesn't matter if one's a patron or not. Word has been given and word has not been kept. It sucks. You're disappointed and I understand.

I have to disagree with you. Not all games are like that. I will give you two examples: Chloe18 and Milfy City. These games are huge. Both of them have a lot of content. But to be honest, they are no so demanding. You don't have to know the whole universe to enjoy them.
H5 is different. It's like TLJ (The Longest Journey), but with many paths. It is not linear. You have to read notes and listen carefully to all conversations because they can affect your future choices. This is a huge difference.
We have a similar situation with Tlaero's games. They are semi-linear, with one canonical path and a few others. But you still have to be very careful about your choices and you have to listen what other characters say. I enjoyed all Tlaero-Phreaky games as well as Mortze's Pandora and all games from Elsa universe. But I gave up on all episodic ones. I knew that I would not be able to enjoy them in this form.

This non-trollish part of the message also deserves a serious reply, so here it is. It is true that all games are not like that. It was not my intention to imply that ALL games had the same issue, but most of them that are serialized do. And even Milfy City, whose plot could be written on a stamp with big letters, would require to replay it to remember all that happened in the game. Only difference is I don't care for anything that happened in the earlier release since I've seen actual porn with smarter plot.
A game like Heavy Five requires more. It requires the player to pay attention, to care about the characters, to learn about their motivations. It's a rewarding game for those that do all that, but Notty also assures us that it can be played without diving too deep into the plot. I could believe her, but since I did the dive, I won't be able to know if it's true.

Wanna make a bet? Oh, I have a better idea: If Notty fails to release the complete game (including the update with female MC) by December 31, 2020, then you will become a Gumdrop subscriber (Tier 4 - $20/month) for the next year. Agree?

Dude, seriously.

 

[Goblin Baily: DILF]

I still feel uneasy, like someday I'll wake up and realise H5 was just a dream

 

[Huitieme]

I'll read and respond to comments all in one go tomorrow. As of now I'm still seeking further intelligent and informed views on my post.

However, in the meantime I've remained busy.

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Love it! Now if we could have both the Intrepid with new render quality and a shot of Ophion...

Spoiler: I would be so happy

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...and the major characters (so far...) "talk boxes". They need a little bit of tweaking but still a damned sight better than what we have now I think

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Not settled on the C7 and VR chars background yet.

See you tomorrow for fun and frolics I'm sure. Laters!

Well, hellooooooo Karen!

 

[I'm Not Thea Lundgren!]

Do you think that Gumdrop's games are finished, just not released?
Maybe he hold back with releasing his games just to give his fans more excitement? What do you think?


So could you explain me why a lot people here hate Gumdrop so much? He doesn't owe anything to anybody, including his patreons. People are free to support him or not, but according to your words, they are not allowed to expect anything from him, because he isn't their slave/bitch. A lot of them didn't even spent a cent for his game, but they already wanted to ban him from Patreon and Steam. Why? Why do people hate creators who put quality over quantity? Do you think it is because of jealousy? Or is it something else?


I didn't ask her to change her mind. I do not insist on it.
I only expressed my opinion and now I defend it after a few people here jumped at me.


So, in the other words: "You are free to like it or not, but if you don't, just shut up"?


Why? Do you have any negative feelings about him?


I asked her several times (here and in PM). At first she claimed that she would make the previous chapters available for free. Then she said that she will put Chapter 2 in Tier 1 soon. Finally, she said that she will put Chapter 2&3 in Tier 1 when Chapter 4 will be released. I'm ok with this, but as you can see, this date increasingly moving away. That's why I'm a little disappointed.


What is wrong with valid comparisons?


I have to disagree with you. Not all games are like that. I will give you two examples: Chloe18 and Milfy City. These games are huge. Both of them have a lot of content. But to be honest, they are no so demanding. You don't have to know the whole universe to enjoy them.
H5 is different. It's like TLJ (The Longest Journey), but with many paths. It is not linear. You have to read notes and listen carefully to all conversations because they can affect your future choices. This is a huge difference.
We have a similar situation with Tlaero's games. They are semi-linear, with one canonical path and a few others. But you still have to be very careful about your choices and you have to listen what other characters say. I enjoyed all Tlaero-Phreaky games as well as Mortze's Pandora and all games from Elsa universe. But I gave up on all episodic ones. I knew that I would not be able to enjoy them in this form.


That's what I'm going to do.

Wanna make a bet? Oh, I have a better idea: If Notty fails to release the complete game (including the update with female MC) by December 31, 2020, then you will become a Gumdrop subscriber (Tier 4 - $20/month) for the next year. Agree?

You've made your point, now please, just leave it.

Either continue playing the game or don't, at this point I don't really care, but please stop filling the thread with dross about other developers, this isn't the place.

 

[I'm Not Thea Lundgren!]

I'll read and respond to comments all in one go tomorrow. As of now I'm still seeking further intelligent and informed views on my post.

However, in the meantime I've remained busy.

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...and the major characters (so far...) "talk boxes". They need a little bit of tweaking but still a damned sight better than what we have now I think

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Not settled on the C7 and VR chars background yet.

See you tomorrow for fun and frolics I'm sure. Laters!

I like that a lot.