Help me choose the MC type for my adult game (and other stuff)

[DynamiteJoe/RenMan3DX]

Hey everyone!
I’ve been a 3D artist working in Daz for about 8 years. I'm currently working as one of the artists for an AVN but I decided to leave it so, after talking with the dev I will work on it until the end of the year. Nothing wrong with that game but even though it's a game I would play, it's not one I would make. Also, making my own games was the original reason I got into Daz.
So, I will be developing a new adult game and I'm trying to decide whether to have a Male MC or a Futanari MC.
The vast majority of my content is futanari on female but I definitely enjoy games with Male MCs too so I can go both ways. In fact, originally I thought about having both and make it a player choice. However, after thinking more about it, it would be way too much work considering I intend to make a sandbox/visual novel. So, one it is.
I'm leaning more towards a Futa MC but I don't know if there would be actually enough interest so, yeah, I would like your feedback about it.

Some things to keep in mind, as I said I'm planning a sandbox/visual novel and also something much more focused on sex content than story, meaning I'm not going for anything deep or dramatic. Also, I do go for more exaggerated proportions, even going as far as hyper content, but I also will be posting here some polls about that so I can get an idea of how far should I go with it. (let me know if you prefer I make those polls on twitter or another place like Strawpoll)

Thanks for helping me make something you’ll hopefully enjoy.

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[Insomnimaniac Games]

Futa MCs are hard mode when it comes to popularity. That being said, futa on female is objectively the best pair.

This is my word, and as such, is beyond constatation.

 

[DynamiteJoe/RenMan3DX]

Futa MCs are hard mode when it comes to popularity. That being said, futa on female is objectively the best pair.

This is my word, and as such, is beyond constatation.

I mean, I'm pretty sure Male MC will be more popular but I'm hoping there is enough people interested in a Futa MC game (futa on female) since it's not as common. I looked around and I felt like the only popular ones were games focusing more on story and drama/feels than sex content, which is not something I will do. I guess the closest comparison for what I have in mind is serge3dx's MILF Breeder, but it's not a good reference since most of his popularity comes from his work as an artist than from the game.
Which is something I find curious, there is definitely interest in futa content, there are a lot of popular futa 3d artists, but for some reason I get the feeling that doesn't translate as well to games? Or maybe it's a quality thing? Not sure, hence why I'm asking

 

[Insomnimaniac Games]

I mean, I'm pretty sure Male MC will be more popular but I'm hoping there is enough people interested in a Futa MC game (futa on female) since it's not as common. I looked around and I felt like the only popular ones were games focusing more on story and drama/feels than sex content, which is not something I will do. I guess the closest comparison for what I have in mind is serge3dx's MILF Breeder, but it's not a good reference since most of his popularity comes from his work as an artist than from the game.

Playing a game and watching a video are different experiences, the story being the biggest factor. Games are long-from content, you don't hold people's interest by just throwing a bunch of sex at them, they'd just watch videos for that. Look at all the most popular games. Summertime Saga, Eternum, BaD, Desert Stalker, etc. All rather story heavy. Second largest dividing factor is gameplay. Whether you just do a choice-based VN, or go beyond and do an RPG, or even something like Unveiling the Unknown, it's always way more than just a bunch of sex.

Despite the people that say "we play these games to fap!" I can seriously only think of one popular game that actually does that, being Karryn's Prison, but that has way more to do with the gameplay than it does sexual content. There's actually not of a ton of content in that game at all, and it's all fairly repetitive, the design is just so on point it tricks you into thinking it's not.

Which is something I find curious, there is definitely interest in futa content, there are a lot of popular futa 3d artists, but for some reason I get the feeling that doesn't translate as well to games? Or maybe it's a quality thing? Not sure, hence why I'm asking

Some people want to "relate" to the MC, or self-insert in some way. These games have a primarily male audience, so they'd prefer to play as male. If they play FemC games (which a lot don't) they're an "audience member". Futa is some weird in between, and some people even think it's gay for futa to even exist, for some reason. The reasons are numerous.

 

[woody554]

pick the one YOU prefer. it's the right decision in general, but also, wasn't making it YOUR game the whole point of quitting the other game? why give up on that dream even before you start?

trying to make what you're guessing others want will only make it less fun for you, and the result will lack that certain 'something' it gets from a motivated developer. it will show when you're not really into it. and while people can't verbalize it they will be able to tell it's 'missing something'. it'll feel disconnected from the idea of your scenes because you're not really into it.

 

[DynamiteJoe/RenMan3DX]

Playing a game and watching a video are different experiences, the story being the biggest factor. Games are long-from content, you don't hold people's interest by just throwing a bunch of sex at them, they'd just watch videos for that. Look at all the most popular games. Summertime Saga, Eternum, BaD, Desert Stalker, etc. All rather story heavy. Second largest dividing factor is gameplay. Whether you just do a choice-based VN, or go beyond and do an RPG, or even something like Unveiling the Unknown, it's always way more than just a bunch of sex.

Despite the people that say "we play these games to fap!" I can seriously only think of one popular game that actually does that, being Karryn's Prison, but that has way more to do with the gameplay than it does sexual content. There's actually not of a ton of content in that game at all, and it's all fairly repetitive, the design is just so on point it tricks you into thinking it's not.

Some people want to "relate" to the MC, or self-insert in some way. These games have a primarily male audience, so they'd prefer to play as male. If they play FemC games (which a lot don't) they're an "audience member". Futa is some weird in between, and some people even think it's gay for futa to even exist, for some reason. The reasons are numerous.

I think you are right, we group everything under "adult games" but I've learned there is a difference between what I like to call "adult games" and "porn games". Basically speaking, "adult games" focus more on "relatable stories" with adult themes and hence why self insertion tends to be important, while "porn games" focus more on the sex content, fantasies and kinks. And what makes a "porn game" different from just watching videos, image sets and so on is the gameplay. If done properly, the sex content is linked to the gameplay and it gives the player the agency and that's what makes it appealing.
So it's a matter of knowing your audience. And there should be one, I mean, for some reason it doesn't seem common in western adult games while it is much more common in eastern adult games. One would think that's because western audiences aren't interested in porn games but we have been playing and translating them for sooo long. And games like Karryn's Prison are proof there is a western audience for porn games.

pick the one YOU prefer. it's the right decision in general, but also, wasn't making it YOUR game the whole point of quitting the other game? why give up on that dream even before you start?

trying to make what you're guessing others want will only make it less fun for you, and the result will lack that certain 'something' it gets from a motivated developer. it will show when you're not really into it. and while people can't verbalize it they will be able to tell it's 'missing something'. it'll feel disconnected from the idea of your scenes because you're not really into it.

Here's the thing, I can do both. I might lean more towards the FutaMC idea I have but the MaleMC idea is definitely one I want to make as well. Heck, I'd do both at the same time if it wasn't an unrealistic goal. So, while you are right about making what you prefer helps with motivation, it only does so starting out. Game making is a long process and the initial motivation won't always be enough, I'd say that's one of the main reasons so many games get abandoned. But, yeah, as you said, you can't just make something because it's popular even if you don't care about it, it will lack that "special something".
So, I believe you need to balance between what you want to make and what people actually want. It doesn't matter much if I get pumped making only what I want if no one is playing it, specially when it's not only a hobby.

So, yeah, don't worry, I'm not fishing for a "soulless make me rich quick" idea or something like that, I'd just try to make "Random Generic College Kid AVN Nº368" if that was the case, I'm just trying to see which of the things I want to make is more likely people will play, and deciding on the MC first felt like a good starting point.

 

[Insomnimaniac Games]

I mean, for some reason it doesn't seem common in western adult games while it is much more common in eastern adult games. One would think that's because western audiences aren't interested in porn games but we have been playing and translating them for sooo long. And games like Karryn's Prison are proof there is a western audience for porn games.

I disagree. Eastern VNs hardly differ mechanically from western ones, and for a lot of eastern RPGs the "link" from sex to gameplay is, for the most part, a meaningless variable artificially gating progress. There are outliers like Karryn's Prison, of course, but in my experience it's not the norm.

There's also the difference in length. Most eastern made games are short. Like, really short. It's because they usually only release completed games, so they can't take too much time developing them if they hope to turn a profit. (Using my own experience, I estimate the standard Japanese RPGM game would take around 6-8 months to make in full). Length matters because the systems made don't need longevity. Take Karryn's prison. It's only a few hours long. If it was as long as my own game, the repetitive nature of the sex scenes would probably start to get annoying. IMO, the formula just doesn't work when games are of decent length. Longer games need more than gameplay.

 

[Jaike]

Also, I do go for more exaggerated proportions, even going as far as hyper content, but I also will be posting here some polls about that so I can get an idea of how far should I go with it.

Well, "hyper content" is very common with futa stuff so futa fans likely don't mind it, but even fans of male MCs with large dicks may go "what's up with the retarded dick size?"

But like woody554 said, you should go with your own preference and vision.

Personally, I don't prefer 1 of these 2 options. Maybe if I knew more details bout it, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Whatever you go with, I hope you'll let the MC use their impossible massive dick as a blunt weapon and a crowbar...

 

[DynamiteJoe/RenMan3DX]

Well, "hyper content" is very common with futa stuff so futa fans likely don't mind it, but even fans of male MCs with large dicks may go "what's up with the retarded dick size?"

But like woody554 said, you should go with your own preference and vision.

Personally, I don't prefer 1 of these 2 options. Maybe if I knew more details bout it, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Whatever you go with, I hope you'll let the MC use their impossible massive dick as a blunt weapon and a crowbar...

Blunt weapon maybe. Crowbar, unlikely.

I feel the issue about hyper content with futa vs male MCs is really a problem with the setting of the game/story. I'd say the vast majority of futa content is placed in alternate/fantasy/sci-fi settings that make possible or easier the suspension of disbelief, while most AVNs with Male MCs are not.
It's why EpicLust games work. I mean, some people might still be put off by those games by other design choices (baby faces on hulk bodies, for example) but anyone who likes hyper content should be fine with the dick sizes in those games. Those who don't, well, they aren't the audience for those games in the first place at the most basic level and they really shouldn't complain about it.
It's also why games like Demon Deals, Urban Demons, and similar games work. At least imho.

 

[DynamiteJoe/RenMan3DX]

Not sure if it would be better to make a whole new thread per poll so for now I think I'll just make them on StrawPoll and add them here.

So, how big do you prefer dick proportions to be if the game has a Futa MC?

Here I'll leave some image references for the options. You can choose multiple options. Also, yeah, these are AI images, they are just for reference, not what I would use in the game. I just thought it would be better than using other artists images and quicker than making them myself in Daz.

Option 1 "Big"



Option 2 "BIG"



Option 3 "BIIIG"



Option 4 "BIIIIIIIIIG"



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Keep in mind, if you don't like exaggerated sizes at all then this really isn't for you in the first place. Also, just FYI, in my works I tend to go for sizes around Option 3 or bigger and for the game I most likely wouldn't go smaller than Option 2.

Also, feel free to leave a comment if you like them even bigger or something else (except not liking exaggeration at all)

 

[eaudecologne]

Bigger than the woman

 

[olaf_yaddax]

futa. always futa

 

[DynamiteJoe/RenMan3DX]

Bigger than the woman

You mean the futa as a whole or just the dick?

 

[eaudecologne]

You mean the futa as a whole or just the dick?

The dick

 

[DynamiteJoe/RenMan3DX]

Well, honestly, kinda surprised at the results. I always knew futa was going to lose but I thought male MC would at least get double the votes. Of course, not that there have been that many to begin with.
I think I'll make a separate thread about the sizes

 

[tanstaafl]

So, how big do you prefer dick proportions to be if the game has a Futa MC?

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[DynamiteJoe/RenMan3DX]

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You know?... Watching that animation again helped me put things in perspective. There are lots of people who likes his content, and sure, it doesn't necessarily translates 1/1 from people liking animations to people willing to play a game that may or may not get animations and even if I do make them I doubt they are going to be as good as that. But I'm thinking there should be enough people liking huge futas with huge dicks going rough on thick women willing to play a game if I make it.

 

[MissCougar]

Just want to say those are some pretty large penises.

 

[obibobi]

Well, "hyper content" is very common with futa stuff so futa fans likely don't mind it, but even fans of male MCs with large dicks may go "what's up with the retarded dick size?"

I'm going to correct you there, some posters complain, but some of the most well like games on this site go into huge to massive territory.

 

[DynamiteJoe/RenMan3DX]

Just want to say those are some pretty large penises.

I'm going to correct you there, some posters complain, but some of the most well like games on this site go into huge to massive territory.

Besides EpicLust games, Urban Demons and it's derivatives like Demon Deals, I don't really know other games with male MCs with huge dicks. In general most games have dicks larger than average, so I mean games with truly huge unrealistic dicks. Could you point me in the direction of those games you are talking about? For research, of course.

(Ah, also remembered Parasite Black, though I feel it's kinda inconsistent there)