How do people make games with Honey Select?

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How do people make games with Honey Select?
If you look at the game "Research into corruption" you game see that he has made the characters blend in with the background. How can you take screenshots of only the characters? And how can you make them pose in different ways?
 

brynhildr

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How to animate the character ?
Illusion Honey Select Poser. Usually release on later date (DLC).
It's another program.. or it's another way to name the "Studio" function of the game itself? Can be done even with this one? Because I always though that the model of the char was made through "Studio" 「(゚<゚)゙??
 

Benn Swagger

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First get the Illusion [Honey Select] Studio. (Nearly all latest Illusion games had studio)

To take the transparent picture, this is the tutorial.

After getting the PNGs, then use it as character picture on game maker engine, such as Unity, Renpy etc etc.
Which that is another matter of developing. I'm only give you of how to rip picture from Illusion games.
 

brynhildr

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First get the Illusion [Honey Select] Studio. (Nearly all latest Illusion games had studio)

To take the transparent picture, this is the tutorial.

After getting the PNGs, then use it as character picture on game maker engine, such as Unity, Renpy etc etc.
Which that is another matter of developing. I'm only give you of how to rip picture from Illusion games.
But then what I said it's the confirmation, right? That the char are mainly created with Studio and then you do this thing to "rip" and "paste" inside the game you're making! 「(゚<゚)゙??
 

Benn Swagger

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But then what I said it's the confirmation, right? That the char are mainly created with Studio and then you do this thing to "rip" and "paste" inside the game you're making! 「(゚<゚)゙??
You can creating character both in the main game or in video. "Save Card" can be load in main game and studio. Not mandatory has to be in studio. Custom animation however, only in studio.
 
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david123

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First get the Illusion [Honey Select] Studio. (Nearly all latest Illusion games had studio)

To take the transparent picture, this is the tutorial.

After getting the PNGs, then use it as character picture on game maker engine, such as Unity, Renpy etc etc.
Which that is another matter of developing. I'm only give you of how to rip picture from Illusion games.
The video was removed. Do you have any other link? Im thinking about making a game and really would like to know how to do this.
 

uradamus

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Characters are generally made in the game itself, then the saved characters can be used in the Studio program. The studio gives you access to all the main game's maps/background locations, plus any you've installed through mods. Then you can place the characters within those scenes using the tools that the studio programs have to position models wherever you want. Then you just pose them (or load a saved pose or one of the stock poses/anims), get the camera where you want it and take a screenshot. Pretty basic stuff, not too different really from the way you'd do things with something like Daz or TK17, just with HS things are broken up into different programs.

They're all pretty cumbersome though and very limited in what they can do, but they do all come with ready made customizable rigged models to work with, which I suppose is the main selling point that draws people in to work with them. I haven't tried that Research into Corruption, but based on the screenshots, my guess is that the backgrounds they're using are actually 3D scenes being loaded into the Studio to place the models in, rather than compositing renders of the models with background images.

EDIT: If you really want to mess around with rendering out just characters with alpha backgrounds, for sprites or something, here is at least one solution:
 

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Is it legal to create game in honey select
No, absolutely not.
Daz for example has a disclaimer any renders you make are yours, only using their assets interactively require a license.
Everything in Honey Select however is copyrighted and there is no such waiver.
The chances of them finding your VN and doing anything about it, pretty slim though.
They'd just tell you to cease doing what your doing if they did, it's only if they caught you, decided you're big enough to issue a cease and desist to, and then you ignored it you'd end up in trouble.
 

Manifold

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No, absolutely not.
Daz for example has a disclaimer any renders you make are yours, only using their assets interactively require a license.
Everything in Honey Select however is copyrighted and there is no such waiver.
The chances of them finding your VN and doing anything about it, pretty slim though.
They'd just tell you to cease doing what your doing if they did, it's only if they caught you, decided you're big enough to issue a cease and desist to, and then you ignored it you'd end up in trouble.
Thanks for the info, I find it amazing all these "illusion" games are around, without any problem. Further questions for anybody willing and able to answer me:

-Would be making a game for free (no patreon, etc.) be potentially a problem?

-Has anyone heard in the meantime (since June 2018) of any developer using the Illusion studio getting into trouble? It should only be a matter of time, and man I hope it won't hit too hard the poor bugger it will befall on. These guys aren't exactly making millions anyway.

I guess I should ask this to a lawyer, but don't really know any...
 
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Thanks for the info, I find it amazing all these "illusion" games are around, without any problem. Further questions for anybody willing and able to answer me:

-Would be making a game for free (no patreon, etc.) be potentially a problem?

-Has anyone heard in the meantime (since June 2018) of any developer using the Illusion studio getting into trouble? It should only be a matter of time, and man I hope it won't hit too hard the poor bugger it will befall on. These guys aren't exactly making millions anyway.

I guess I should ask this to a lawyer, but don't really know any...
Making any Visual Novel or Game regardless if is Adult/Erotic/Porn themed for free without using sites like Patreon is perfectly feasible... It boils down to why your developing something, are you having fun doing it, and what do you want to get out of it? Some folks want to make it their career, so it's a mix of making money while doing what they like doing... For others, it's primarily about the money, and in many of those cases it could end up being milking projects, to prolong the development as long as possible to keep money flowing in as long as possible... For some it is about the prestige, having fans who feed into your ego and/or sense of social worth... Perhaps some folks feel they need some money to get better by purchasing the software and hardware necessary in order to develop faster and better and easier, or maybe even hire folks to help out... For some it might be a mix... There are a broad spectrum of reasons why people make things for the public to see, hear, and consume... So, if you like creating stuff for others to enjoy, and don't care so much about the money side, that is perfectly within the scope of feasibility..

I would not doubt that law suits or more likely Stop and Desist Letter actions have been taken by the software developers/publishers against folks in the host country, maybe even elsewhere... And I would not doubt that in any cases where that may of occurred, that it was not made public knowledge, either for fear of embarrassment or for legal reasons... You take a risk and gamble with both your money and legal status when you use Pirated Software to make anything, more so when it involves making money from it... There are so many local, state, federal, international, and treaty laws in place with regards to piracy regulation... It then boils down to what type of person you are? Do you want to risk becoming financially liable for your transgression and possibly facing legal actions, or do you play it safe and go with the purchase of software that is legally available in your location/s? Again, it's a gamble... How big a gamble? Who's to really say... But the risk is there regardless...

You could ask for legal council, and you will probably be advised not to use Pirated Software, or software not sold or legally available outside the host country... That's sort of a no-brainer...

Best of luck...

Zip
 

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Characters are generally made in the game itself, then the saved characters can be used in the Studio program. The studio gives you access to all the main game's maps/background locations, plus any you've installed through mods. Then you can place the characters within those scenes using the tools that the studio programs have to position models wherever you want. Then you just pose them (or load a saved pose or one of the stock poses/anims), get the camera where you want it and take a screenshot. Pretty basic stuff, not too different really from the way you'd do things with something like Daz or TK17, just with HS things are broken up into different programs.

They're all pretty cumbersome though and very limited in what they can do, but they do all come with ready made customizable rigged models to work with, which I suppose is the main selling point that draws people in to work with them. I haven't tried that Research into Corruption, but based on the screenshots, my guess is that the backgrounds they're using are actually 3D scenes being loaded into the Studio to place the models in, rather than compositing renders of the models with background images.

EDIT: If you really want to mess around with rendering out just characters with alpha backgrounds, for sprites or something, here is at least one solution:
The aforementioned video is no longer available and the link provided yields "The requested URL /forum/forum/hentai-lair/hf-modding-translation/honey-select-mods/5772684-console-plugin-ironpython-interactive-console-updated-19-mar-2017 was not found on this server. ".

So... does anyone have any suggestions on tutorials to either 1. Create images with transparent backgrounds in HS or 2. Add your own background to HS?

Thanx in advance
 

alala69

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Very interesting subject, I allow myself to relaunch, because I have a question.
Can the independent Illusion games developers simply say that we share only the content of the game, but also that they are paid for their efforts to improve it?
A bit like some Bethesda games moderators who are paid by the community for the work they provide.
 
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JhOon

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First get the Illusion [Honey Select] Studio. (Nearly all latest Illusion games had studio)

To take the transparent picture, this is the tutorial.

After getting the PNGs, then use it as character picture on game maker engine, such as Unity, Renpy etc etc.
Which that is another matter of developing. I'm only give you of how to rip picture from Illusion games.
can you upload this movie again cause i cant open,say's the movie was excluded