How do you feel about AI generated (porn) content?

[Psan2022]

For a little while I am running my own AI server locally on my network. I have been playing around with language models and most recently picture generation to see what is possible and how to make things which I cannot do myself...like drawing anything really. So I have been mixing trained AI models and LORA with some specified command promts and I have to admitt I looks way better than expected from a self hosted service. Certanly the longer you look at some of those pictures the more you see some artifacts but if I stick to it I could also train those models better to make smoother and prettier pictures. It does not always have to be porn.

If you are interested I can post a small tutorial how I run my own image generating service (no internet connection needed and without filters). It is really not that complicated. But what I learned is that how you do the promts is really important and it differs from ai generating plattform to another plattform (like dalli, copilot, stable diffusion etc). Since it is unfiltered I could show unwanted results.

So what do you think about AI generated content? Do you prefer pictures coming from an actual artist or do you not mind having an computer doing the heavy lifting?

 

[Winterfire]

You didn't edit them at all? Wow. AI is getting more and more impressive.
There are sure some mistakes here and there, but it's not the worst type of AI imagery I've seen.

 

[Vagician]

I don't care if it comes from a person, or an AI model. I would have different feelings perhaps if "artists" were mostly talented. But the vast majority of them are absolutely terrible. Deviant Art was just littered with posts from people who have dozens and even hundreds of drawings that look like a grade school art project level of quality.

Not only am I okay with AI art - I want more of it!

This is a sample of FanArt on Deviant Art from 2021 before AI


And yes, a few are good. Most should not be uploaded.

This is what DeviantArt "fanart" looks like today


This is an improvement. At this point only truly talented artists are going to be able to get traction - good.

I just hope this makes its way up to games too. Maybe if hobbyist game makers can use AI for high quality art, they can then focus on making better games.

 

[Psan2022]

You didn't edit them at all? Wow. AI is getting more and more impressive.
There are sure some mistakes here and there, but it's not the worst type of AI imagery I've seen.

No I did not edit them. I just posted them as is. The thing is the better the model the better the results are. It depends on what dataset and on how many pictures the model was trained. And it gets better and better with time. Additionally you can use what is called LORAs basically they are like trained addons for a model. For example you have your base model and you can add a LORA for facial expressions or positions of the character. So you can enhance the output of the base model, like addons or attachments.

I don't care if it comes from a person, or an AI model. I would have different feelings perhaps if "artists" were mostly talented. But the vast majority of them are absolutely terrible. Deviant Art was just littered with posts from people who have dozens and even hundreds of drawings that look like a grade school art project level of quality.

Yes, I agree. AI can help or enhance artwork. But I understand that it could also make new artists a little bit disheartened. It does not only have to be only pictures, it can also include songs (like SunoAI) and texts like ChatGPT or Llama

 

[PinkArdillaDev]

Age of Mythology used it on their gods artworks so even big corpo is using it

 

[Pretentious Goblin]

If the only thing stopping a talented dev and writer from being able to make their game is the art, then it would be a mistake to dismiss the option of AI. Now, a lot of the AI art I've seen has that distinctive gloss and shading, but once it's versatile enough and controllable enough to get consistent and good-looking results, I won't mind playing indie games that use it.

 

[♍VoidTraveler]

I don't really care where it's coming from if it's a quality work, but i rather like AI personally.
Plus AI has benefits other than art, too:

*AI will not take your money and bolt with them without delivering any artwork.
*AI will not fail to deliver on-time due to its wife's neighbour uncle's favorite pet rat dying.
*AI will not display any attitudes.

Etc.

 

[Psan2022]

Now, a lot of the AI art I've seen has that distinctive gloss and shading, but once it's versatile enough and controllable enough to get consistent and good-looking results, I won't mind playing indie games that use it.

Can you specify what you mean specifically? Then I can see if I can change it accordingly. Maybe this will also help me understand AI picture generation a little bit better in the process.

 

[Winterfire]

I don't really care where it's coming from if it's a quality work, but i rather like AI personally.
Plus AI has benefits other than art, too:

*AI will not take your money and bolt with them without delivering any artwork.
*AI will not fail to deliver on-time due to its wife's neighbour uncle's favorite pet rat dying.
*AI will not display any attitudes.

Etc.

You missed the most important bit: AI doesn't ask you for 100 dollars for 1cg

 

[Psan2022]

You missed the most important bit: AI doesn't ask you for 100 dollars for 1cg

Depending on your computing power and your power bill it might

 

[♍VoidTraveler]

You missed the most important bit: AI doesn't ask you for 100 dollars for 1cg

I figured 'etc' will cover that, but yes while some AI's are p2u, others are completely free.
Which means AI doesn't need to be paid, on top of all the other benefits.
Which is also why all those companies went nuts and started researching AI tech, can you blame them?

 

[Winterfire]

I figured 'etc' will cover that, but yes while some AI's are p2u, others are completely free.
Which means AI doesn't need to be paid, on top of all the other benefits.
Which is also why all those companies went nuts and started researching AI tech, can you blame them?

you can't put the most important point on etc, cos it's important

 

[♍VoidTraveler]

Depending on your computing power and your power bill it might

That's provided YOU are the one hosting it.
But who are we kidding? You gonna use that electricity either way.

 

[Psan2022]

That's provided YOU are the one hosting it.
But who are we kidding? You gonna use that electricity either way.

I cant say how true that is

 

[♍VoidTraveler]

you can't put the most important point on etc, cos it's important

It's fine, after all, i have you to point out the most obvious point anyway.

 

[Zardoz23]

There was a similar thread not too long ago that you might be interested in looking at. But my general thoughts on the matter is that AI is an effective tool but not a reliable creator in and of itself. Meaning if you're going to use it be prepared to heavily edit it's output by hand if you are concerned about producing something that is of any real quality.

 

[whowhawhy]

i treat ai art as a puzzle. easy puzzles are bad. increasing the difficulty by making the oddities harder to find is good. the arm-leg in the fifth picture is funny.

ai taking jobs away won't matter for an average consumer if your product is good enough, and you can try placating those on the fence with statements about raising your art on organic/vegan diet.

Deviant Art was just littered with posts from people who have dozens and even hundreds of drawings that look like a grade school art project level of quality.

you're going for the low hanging fruit, deviantart has always been full of literal children (including those young enough to have to lie about their age) learning to draw.

*AI will not display any attitudes.

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[FoolsBeGone]

You need only go check out the
AI Art Skill Thread to see some absolutely amazing art work and watching artists work together to learn more about using it to make better and better art work. After seeing the pictures created there it is hard to not want that used in all my games that I play

 

[Luxtos Wheater]

I feel that it lacks a lot of personality, it is true that in this forum there are games with very ugly drawings, but still, I feel that this is a step for the artist to improve, the games made with AI are practically all the same...I can identify at sight if the game is made with AI just by looking at the images, it is even boring to see everyone with shiny skin, excess of light and a boring “realism”.

I understand that people like the OP can't draw (I don't consider myself an expert) but it's thousands of times more satisfying to go through the process than resorting to AI, seeing games with AI has only made me revalue games with art made by real people.

 

[Frezezyk]

I'm an artist (A bad one, but still). And no, I'm not gonna yell at you for using AI. I know it's really hard and time-consuming to draw on your own. AI has become a very powerful tool for those who can't draw as well as artists. And no matter what anyone says, most people don't care if the picture was created by an AI or a human. Especially if it's porn.
But as I've noticed that if you use AI the expectations for you will be higher than for an artist. And if you compare it, I think it's something like this...
art from beginner artist = average quality AI art.
art from average artist = high quality AI art
art from professional artist > high quality AI art
You're getting pretty good AI pictures now, but there are too many mistakes in some places, so you should develop your skills as an artist as well as an AI user :3