Ren'Py How to start with a new game?

[NTR_lover666]

Hi there everyone. So we are a couple and lived alternative lifestyle, and wanting to make a game in the NTR genre, drawing from life experiences and knowing this kink really well. We do have some minor following on social media of our content in the lifestyle and we want to make NTR games, as we love playing them. But we don't want to do it just for fun but do it in a way so it commercially makes sense for the time to be invested.

We are almost certain our mind would allow us to create something that over time will be commercially successful. The problem however is other than writing the story/script and knowing the fetish extensively, we do not have any game development experience. That includes both coding and rendering images, learning DAZ 3d etc. We have a few questions and we will be insanely grateful if anyone is able to answer these.

1. Does it worth it to hire a coder and graphics designer to create all we want to be created for the game? How much is it likely to cost and where to fine them?
2. If we are to learn and do one of the two, what should we learn, coding or rendering?
3. If we are to do both, what is the best platform to render and code, as in what will be the easiest to learn and how long will it take to learn it to piece together our imagination in gameplay?


Thanks again for reading it and your help!

 

[Winterfire]

Switched to my alt account real quick to let you know that you can start with reading my guide linked in my signature (How to make a game), it's a pretty in depth guide which may answer many of the questions you have (both written here, or just things you hadn't considered).

With that out of the way, you can hire people here: https://f95zone.to/forums/recruitment-services.117/ but it's very unlikely you'll need a "coder" if you'll be using Ren'Py (highly suggested), making a Ren'Py game is scripting at best, and most of what you'll be doing is:
Speaker "Dialogue"
Hardly any coding knowledge required to do that, of course at some point you may need extra stuff (Screens, etc.) but youtube videos cover that:

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(Old but gold), of course you can find more recent videos just by writing "Ren'Py tutorial" in the youtube search bar.

As for rendering, I'd say what you should go for is Daz3D, but what are your computer specs? Not just anyone can start rendering on Daz3D (Although I've seen some crazy insane talentful people doing CPU renders, but not suggested!)

 

[NTR_lover666]

Switched to my alt account real quick to let you know that you can start with reading my guide linked in my signature (How to make a game), it's a pretty in depth guide which may answer many of the questions you have (both written here, or just things you hadn't considered).

With that out of the way, you can hire people here: https://f95zone.to/forums/recruitment-services.117/ but it's very unlikely you'll need a "coder" if you'll be using Ren'Py (highly suggested), making a Ren'Py game is scripting at best, and most of what you'll be doing is:
Speaker "Dialogue"
Hardly any coding knowledge required to do that, of course at some point you may need extra stuff (Screens, etc.) but youtube videos cover that:

You must be registered to see the links

(Old but gold), of course you can find more recent videos just by writing "Ren'Py tutorial" in the youtube search bar.

As for rendering, I'd say what you should go for is Daz3D, but what are your computer specs? Not just anyone can start rendering on Daz3D (Although I've seen some crazy insane talentful people doing CPU renders, but not suggested!)

Thanks so much, this is extremely helpful. We have a Mac Studio with a fair bit of processing power and got DAZ installed there. Just never had the time to try it out. How long do you think will take to make basic renders?

 

[Winterfire]

Thanks so much, this is extremely helpful. We have a Mac Studio with a fair bit of processing power and got DAZ installed there. Just never had the time to try it out. How long do you think will take to make basic renders?

By specs I mean your GPU, Is it Nvidia? and how much vram does it have? If it's not enough, it'll default to CPU and that may take even up to 3 hours per render (Depending on settings and scene complexity).

 

[NTR_lover666]

By specs I mean your GPU, Is it Nvidia? and how much vram does it have? If it's not enough, it'll default to CPU and that may take even up to 3 hours per render (Depending on settings and scene complexity).

I believe it is 40 core GPU

 

[NTR_lover666]

By specs I mean your GPU, Is it Nvidia? and how much vram does it have? If it's not enough, it'll default to CPU and that may take even up to 3 hours per render (Depending on settings and scene complexity).

One other question, how is the plan of making the renders on civitai?

 

[Winterfire]

One other question, how is the plan of making the renders on civitai?

Unfortunately I have near zero experience with AI, so I'm not sure whether that's good or not. You'll have to wait for someone with more AI experience to answer this.

 

[NTR_lover666]

Unfortunately I have near zero experience with AI, so I'm not sure whether that's good or not. You'll have to wait for someone with more AI experience to answer this.

You are such a legend, got so much direction in just one day

 

[Mr.Kin]

You don't need experience if you have the will. Of course, things will take time to learn, but I believe that anything is possible to learn. I'm developing my first visual novel. I started studying 2 years ago, and so far I'm enjoying the result. How did I start?

First, I learned about Daz 3D Studio; there are numerous tutorials on YouTube. There are also several assets to test and learn from here in the forum.

After that, you will need to learn a little bit of Photoshop or Premiere, or some other editing program, but don't be scared, there is also a lot of content and free classes on the internet.

Finally, if you want to use Ren'Py, I suggest the basics of programming, just to try to understand the logic. After you understand the logic, you can perhaps use an AI to assist you in the development.

 

[NTR_lover666]

You don't need experience if you have the will. Of course, things will take time to learn, but I believe that anything is possible to learn. I'm developing my first visual novel. I started studying 2 years ago, and so far I'm enjoying the result. How did I start?

First, I learned about Daz 3D Studio; there are numerous tutorials on YouTube. There are also several assets to test and learn from here in the forum.

After that, you will need to learn a little bit of Photoshop or Premiere, or some other editing program, but don't be scared, there is also a lot of content and free classes on the internet.

Finally, if you want to use Ren'Py, I suggest the basics of programming, just to try to understand the logic. After you understand the logic, you can perhaps use an AI to assist you in the development.

Thank you so much, someone told me that using tools like Forge which is an AI based platform is better in some ways, saves time. Is that true?

 

[Mr.Kin]

Thank you so much, someone told me that using tools like Forge which is an AI based platform is better in some ways, saves time. Is that true?

Bro, I can't tell you for sure about creating images with AI, if that's what you're asking.
Now, if it's about development in Ren'Py / Python, any AI can help you with the programming. It could be Gemini, ChatGPT. I personally recommend Gemini.

 

[fernandotorres1]

Actually, I need serious guidance on this topic from scratch. I want to make my own game. I have a great story in mind, one that I can continue. A game that I will finish in 4 or 5 chapters. After learning Daz3D and how to render, I also need to learn how to code this in Renpy. Honestly, I have no idea what I'm doing. I downloaded Daz3D, but I don't even know how to use the program. I watched a few YouTube videos, but they were too basic and didn't help me achieve my goal.

 

[Mr.Kin]

Actually, I need serious guidance on this topic from scratch. I want to make my own game. I have a great story in mind, one that I can continue. A game that I will finish in 4 or 5 chapters. After learning Daz3D and how to render, I also need to learn how to code this in Renpy. Honestly, I have no idea what I'm doing. I downloaded Daz3D, but I don't even know how to use the program. I watched a few YouTube videos, but they were too basic and didn't help me achieve my goal.

Well, I think you should start with the basics.

First, get a handle on the basic commands, like how to import assets. Once you've got that down, you can start downloading some free assets to play with. You can find some of these on various online forums where users sometimes share content.

Here are some other things you can look into:
Free Stuff: There are a bunch of free assets out there, including pre-configured render settings, models, and textures. You can find a lot of freebies to get you started.
Morphs: You'll want to learn how to work with morphs to change the shape of your characters. There are plenty of tutorials on how to create your own.
Animation: If you're interested in animation, you can start with the basics and learn as you go.
Lights and Poses: Understanding how to change and position lights is crucial. Also, learning how to work with different poses will bring your scenes to life.

Honestly, learning Daz is a lot of trial and error. The more you mess around with it, the more you'll learn. The good news is there are tons of tutorials in English online to help you out.

 

[fernandotorres1]

Well, I think you should start with the basics.

First, get a handle on the basic commands, like how to import assets. Once you've got that down, you can start downloading some free assets to play with. You can find some of these on various online forums where users sometimes share content.

Here are some other things you can look into:
Free Stuff: There are a bunch of free assets out there, including pre-configured render settings, models, and textures. You can find a lot of freebies to get you started.
Morphs: You'll want to learn how to work with morphs to change the shape of your characters. There are plenty of tutorials on how to create your own.
Animation: If you're interested in animation, you can start with the basics and learn as you go.
Lights and Poses: Understanding how to change and position lights is crucial. Also, learning how to work with different poses will bring your scenes to life.

Honestly, learning Daz is a lot of trial and error. The more you mess around with it, the more you'll learn. The good news is there are tons of tutorials in English online to help you out.

I understand that I'll need a significant amount of time for this. I'm currently an active working professional commuting to work, and I have exams to pass, such as development exams, to advance in my career. Among these, I also want to work on this project (Daz3D). I've taken note of what you said. I'll look into them one by one. I bought an RX 5700 XT graphics card. I think it's a pretty decent graphics card and should handle my needs and renders well. Otherwise, I only have a laptop with onboard graphics, and I don't think it's possible to run programs like Daz3D on it. First, I'll start by making my desktop computer truly ideal for my work.

 

[Winterfire]

I bought an RX 5700 XT graphics card.

Switched to my alt account real quick to let you know that you should have informed yourself more before deciding on that purchase, assuming that you made that purchase solely/mostly for Daz3D.
Not only the VRAM is abysmal, but it's not even NVIDIA.

 

[fernandotorres1]

Switched to my alt account real quick to let you know that you should have informed yourself more before deciding on that purchase, assuming that you made that purchase solely/mostly for Daz3D.
Not only the VRAM is abysmal, but it's not even NVIDIA.

Yes, it's not Nvidia. I also upgraded the VRAM from 4 GB to 8 GB. In my country, computer prices or hardware prices are very high, plus we pay tax on every product. I researched the best options for my processor and thought that the best way to find a solution without paying tax was to get a second-hand graphics card. Yes, you're right, it's not Nvidia. It's AMD. I don't know how much of a difference that makes. I really don't know. But I thought the graphics card was the best option for my processor. By the way, what kind of differences could there be between AMD and Nvidia? If I extend the rendering time, wouldn't I get better results? Does it have to be Nvidia?

 

[Mr.Kin]

Yes, it's not Nvidia. I also upgraded the VRAM from 4 GB to 8 GB. In my country, computer prices or hardware prices are very high, plus we pay tax on every product. I researched the best options for my processor and thought that the best way to find a solution without paying tax was to get a second-hand graphics card. Yes, you're right, it's not Nvidia. It's AMD. I don't know how much of a difference that makes. I really don't know. But I thought the graphics card was the best option for my processor. By the way, what kind of differences could there be between AMD and Nvidia? If I extend the rendering time, wouldn't I get better results? Does it have to be Nvidia?

Bro, right now, I can't tell you for sure all the benefits of having an NVIDIA card, but what I do know is that technologies like CUDA cores, ray tracing, among others, transform the rendering speed. There are analyses that show NVIDIA has a much faster rendering time compared to AMD.

However, since you already have an AMD card, I don't think it's something that will stop you from learning. I believe you can definitely use it to study and learn. Maybe in the future, you can swap it for an NVIDIA.

By the way, are you Brazilian or Portuguese? Your nickname is common in both countries.

 

[Winterfire]

Yes, it's not Nvidia. I also upgraded the VRAM from 4 GB to 8 GB. In my country, computer prices or hardware prices are very high, plus we pay tax on every product. I researched the best options for my processor and thought that the best way to find a solution without paying tax was to get a second-hand graphics card. Yes, you're right, it's not Nvidia. It's AMD. I don't know how much of a difference that makes. I really don't know. But I thought the graphics card was the best option for my processor. By the way, what kind of differences could there be between AMD and Nvidia? If I extend the rendering time, wouldn't I get better results? Does it have to be Nvidia?

Switched to my alt account real quick to say that, at least to my knowledge, Nvidia 3060 is around the same price, maybe a tad more expensive, but not too much so. Yours is probably better for gaming, but when it comes to rendering, VRAM is king. 8gb vram is way too smol, even for a NVIDIA.

3060 has 12gb, which is not "great", but it's definitely a good starting point. I'd say, at the moment, 3060 is a great entry GPU if you want an affordable price, with a decent minimum of vram (IDK If there's cheaper, with more vram).

That being said, I've seen people literally CPU rendering and struggling with each render, where there's a will...

As mr.Kin said, you can always upgrade in future. You can get your game going now as other people did in the past, or even do to this day. You might find out that you hate making games, or just get lazy and abandon after a release, who knows.

 

[fernandotorres1]

Bro, right now, I can't tell you for sure all the benefits of having an NVIDIA card, but what I do know is that technologies like CUDA cores, ray tracing, among others, transform the rendering speed. There are analyses that show NVIDIA has a much faster rendering time compared to AMD.

However, since you already have an AMD card, I don't think it's something that will stop you from learning. I believe you can definitely use it to study and learn. Maybe in the future, you can swap it for an NVIDIA.

By the way, are you Brazilian or Portuguese? Your nickname is common in both countries.

Switched to my alt account real quick to say that, at least to my knowledge, Nvidia 3060 is around the same price, maybe a tad more expensive, but not too much so. Yours is probably better for gaming, but when it comes to rendering, VRAM is king. 8gb vram is way too smol, even for a NVIDIA.

3060 has 12gb, which is not "great", but it's definitely a good starting point. I'd say, at the moment, 3060 is a great entry GPU if you want an affordable price, with a decent minimum of vram (IDK If there's cheaper, with more vram).

That being said, I've seen people literally CPU rendering and struggling with each render, where there's a will...

As mr.Kin said, you can always upgrade in future. You can get your game going now as other people did in the past, or even do to this day. You might find out that you hate making games, or just get lazy and abandon after a release, who knows.

Thanks, buddy. Yes, I play CS2 and a few MMORPG games. Until a few days ago, I was using the 3 GB version of the GTX 1060. My computer had been sitting idle for a very long time, and I wasn't using it. Of course, it became outdated during that time, but the games I play haven't changed much. I don't follow or play most of the high-end games on the market anymore; I'm getting older, and my motor skills and FPS skills have declined significantly. That's why I play MMORPGs more. That way, instead of relying on skill, I spend my time in games trading and doing similar things. You might be right about rendering. A 3060 card could be much more advantageous for this, but I have a Ryzen 7 2700x processor and a total of 16 GB of 2666 MHz DDR4 RAM. Since I also thought my processor might bottleneck and not fully power the graphics card, I bought an RX 5700 XT. The graphics card I bought is a second-hand card removed from a gaming computer in an internet café. By the way, I'm neither Brazilian nor Portuguese.

 

[NTR_lover666]

Hi, thanks to everyone for the comments and inputs so far. I have made some progress, got the script for first episode, got the character details and renders for the characters. Now at the stage of adding the script on renpy and create scenes for the game based on the script. Being a stay at home housewife, I got the time to learn and develop.

Once I have something to share with the world, how do I get that on f95 and how do I get the game developer tag?