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Jul 26, 2021
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I have been coming here for years. I have been disabled for over 20 years. I also can only type a few words at a time without increasing my pain and other symptoms. (mainly brain fog as constant pain make thinking difficult) If you add to that my autism and what im attempting to do now is so frustrating its almost impossible.

I have repeatedly over the years tried different methods to impress upon the adult games community the importance of the auto forward feature. For me and many disabled people clicking repeatedly (mouse or keyboard) simply is not an option. because of this there are game engines i don't even attempt. The Renpy engine however comes with auto advance built right in, the developer has to do absolutely nothing for Renpy games to be accessible to me and other disabled perverts. So when I start a Renpy game, and find out the developer made a decision to remove that feature it feels the same as if the developer said "fuck you, you dirty cripple". I do fully admit that my responses to this have some times crossed the line, this is where I need to do better.

When i first started to play Renpy games auto advance was very rarely messed with by developers. now it seems like around half of the games i try its disabled.

I have recently started to give negative reviews for games that have the auto advance disabled. As i said earlier i can only type a few words at a time, long post like this one take a very long time for me. (im about 2 hours in on this one) Because of that i try to keep everything brief. But then i ran into a roadblock from the website, a minimum character count for reviews. When i spent time writing a review, and saying what needed to be said, only to have the website tell me its not enough was like a slap in the face.

This is where i get to the hardest part of this for me. You see i hate asking for help, but thats what i need. I need the help of both the comunity and moderators/staff to come up with a better way to let the developers know how important this feature is. for now i will not be posting any more reviews
 

Insomnimaniac Games

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Sorry to hear all that my man. Are you on windows 10 or 11? I can't do much about the other stuff, but I can tell you that modern windows come default with an option for speech-to-text which may make it easier for you to type things out. (Please do not feel the need to reply if it will cause you any issues.)
 
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Sorry to hear all that my man. Are you on windows 10 or 11? I can't do much about the other stuff, but I can tell you that modern windows come default with an option for speech-to-text which may make it easier for you to type things out. (Please do not feel the need to reply if it will cause you any issues.)
Thanks will try
 
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woody554

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nevermind the devs, I really wish renpy had a shortcut to force enabling auto-forward without having to unren and dev mode etc.

I get it might not work for games with modified say-screens, but more than 90% of VNs that disable auto-forward it seems to be disabled for no reason at all. it's killing my wrists and shoulders clicking forward for hours.
 
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desmosome

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I also use auto-forward a lot. Not due to anything serious like you, but because it's convenient.

My thoughts on this issue is that devs that disable auto-forward don't even know what it does. The proof is that 99% of the devs that remove this feature still have the auto-forward time slider (which determines how fast the auto read is) in the options.

The other cases happen due to devs that think they are creating some cinematic masterpiece so they remove all default quick buttons at the bottom of the screen.

It also makes no sense that there is no default keyboard shortcut for this function on renpy.

Anyways, I attached a very simple mod I got from someone that toggles auto forward by pressing insert key. Put it in game folder.
 
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Winterfire

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Instead of giving negative reviews, or antagonize devs in general, just explain the importance of that feature. I had no idea, until now.
Kindly requesting accessibility is way more likely to make a significant change than attacking.

Also, don't exclude other game engines:
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Unity has many frameworks that allow the easy creation of Visual Novels, and there are a couple for Godot too.
Visual Novels in general are quite easy to create, hence why many companies often have their own in-house game engine.
Ren'Py is far from being the only one.
 

Goeffel

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it's killing my wrists and shoulders clicking forward for hours.
sounds as if - like me - you do not have an ideal environment with the mouse / keyboard and such.
On top of auto-read whereever applicable using a (wireless) gamepad for much more relaxed sitting/ clicking makes a HUGE difference for me.
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while I'm here, from another topic: Insomnimaniac Games
yes, I know abput joy2play, xpadder and the like, but still thanks for telling.
 
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tooldev

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If I may suggest a change in wording: Point out the lack of accessibility. That is the word developers understand or should at least understand if they are worth the title. It includes things you are asking for, as well as tending to colour blind people for example.

The lack of accessibility is unfortunately a common problem not only in games but throughout the entire software industry, despite there being industry standards for all of these things. Adult gaming is not an industry, it is merely a sub-part of gaming and quite a huge part of the developers group is not professionally educated in this.
 

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It's really not that easy to disable the auto forward feature, some devs do remove the button that allows you to toggle it, and some devs have it poorly integrated with animations or a lot of clicking around because of sandboxes though.

You can always bind the afm button in the keymap to bypass the devs that remove the button, and the afm value is editable in the console to increase / decrease the speed of the text.

I also suggest if you have trouble clicking, to remap your left mouse button to the mouse wheel; you can do this through the keymap.
 

lemonfreak

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Can you use a game controller? Most renpy games can be played that way (some devs build the ui in a way that clicking around isn't intuiative)
 

desmosome

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Wait, but if you have so much pain even from just typing, how are you fapping? Do you have a fap machine?
 
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Instead of giving negative reviews, or antagonize devs in general, just explain the importance of that feature. I had no idea, until now.
Kindly requesting accessibility is way more likely to make a significant change than attacking.

Also, don't exclude other game engines:
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Unity has many frameworks that allow the easy creation of Visual Novels, and there are a couple for Godot too.
Visual Novels in general are quite easy to create, hence why many companies often have their own in-house game engine.
Ren'Py is far from being the only one.
Tried that polite gets ignored. Thats why I switched to reviews, now i got Moderators deleting my reviews even when they don't break F95zone rules.