I'm surprised a game doesn't seem to exist around this character

[Diconica]

Countess De Winter from Muskateers.
Consider all the stuff the various movies, tv shows and books give account of in regard to her life after she is picked up by Cardinal Richelieu.
Then again most the time her life ends in not the best of ways in these stories.

 

[anne O'nymous]

Countess De Winter from Muskateers.

Yeah, why not make a game around a character that:

• Was the lover of priest, who commit suicide ;
• Was the lover of Athos, who through that he succeeded into killing her ;
• Was the wife of the Count De Winter, that she killed ;
• Killed D'Artagnan's lover because he had sex with her.

And this is just a summary...
Milady have that fate over her head. If she have sex with someone, then someone have to die, whatever her, the person she had sex with, or someone really close to that person.



Thinking about it again, I'm not sure that she's the best character for a game...

 

[woody554]

Yeah, why not make a game around a character that:

• Was the lover of priest, who commit suicide ;
• Was the lover of Athos, who through that he succeeded into killing her ;
• Was the wife of the Count De Winter, that she killed ;
• Killed D'Artagnan's lover because he had sex with her.

And this is just a summary...
Milady have that fate over her head. If she have sex with someone, then someone have to die, whatever her, the person she had sex with, or someone really close to that person.

it all sounds like elements of a great story to me.

 

[Ogrexin]

Historical figures arent always the most sought after protagonists.


Considering that making one mistake will lead an army of history nerds to chastize you for not wanting to read a book series of extremely boring and overly detailed biographies/autobiographies

 

[Diconica]

Historical figures arent always the most sought after protagonists.

She's a completely fictional Character.

Cardinal Richelieu on the other hand is a very real person but no ways near the way the films portray him.
He is much less a villain and much more a hero by nature. This is a guy who put on armor and went into combat.

Yeah, why not make a game around a character that:

• Was the lover of priest, who commit suicide ;
• Was the lover of Athos, who through that he succeeded into killing her ;
• Was the wife of the Count De Winter, that she killed ;
• Killed D'Artagnan's lover because he had sex with her.

And this is just a summary...
Milady have that fate over her head. If she have sex with someone, then someone have to die, whatever her, the person she had sex with, or someone really close to that person.

Thinking about it again, I'm not sure that she's the best character for a game...

You mean like the countless games about women falling into depravity on here and worse.
She killed the Counts brother. The Count De Winter is Athos the Muskateer. Technically one of the versions of that she didn't kill the brother she was falsely accused of it. Another she branded a murderer, then found innocent and released. But still had the brand. When Count De Winter seen it he captures her has her death sentence carried out thinking she was a criminal. She escapes at that point and is found by the Cardinal.
All the espionage and killing, kind of fits in with all the spy type games.

Maybe, not the type of game you like given the other games on here that have similarities I suspect it would do very well.
So long as the person creating it isn't a putz.

 

[MarshmallowCasserole]

I'm surprised that you're surprised.

Here are the top 5 entries in the Books category on fanfiction.net:
Harry Potter (847K)
Twilight (222K)
Percy Jackson and the Olympians (80.4K)
Lord of the Rings (58.2K)
Hunger Games (46.4K)

And here's—I'm very generous here—De Winter's place:
Alexandre Dumas (304)

And that's just in the Books category, let's not forget the other eight. There's just no need to make a game around her. At best, one could make a character strongly based on her, and insert her into a different world and story.

 

[anne O'nymous]

She killed the Counts brother.

Nope, she was marked by infamy by the priest's brother.

The Count De Winter is Athos the Muskateer.

Nope, De Winter was British, and he's dead.

If he was the Count de Winter, how the fuck would Athos not have figured who this mysterious Milady de Winter could be, before seeing her in flesh ? "Oh, my friend D'Artagnan often talk about a woman who's a De Winter, a name that only my (expected) late wife can legitimately claim. I really wonder who she can be..."
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Technically one of the versions [...]

Dumas wrote only one version of his story...

 

[Diconica]

Nope, she was marked by infamy by the priest's brother.

Nope, De Winter was British, and he's dead.

If he was the Count de Winter, how the fuck would Athos not have figured who this mysterious Milady de Winter could be, before seeing her in flesh ? "Oh, my friend D'Artagnan often talk about a woman who's a De Winter, a name that only my (expected) late wife can legitimately claim. I really wonder who she can be..."
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Dumas wrote only one version of his story...

Your right there are multiple versions he is Count de la Fere. Not all versions are that way.
In some he is simply not told of her up until a point.

There are over 50 film and television adaptations of the Musketeers. Each writer/author using his own creative influence.
I can't even find an good figure for the vast number of book adaptations.

Technically Dumas wrote 6 books regarding the King's Musketeers

King's Musketeers

• The Three Musketeers (1844) 1.5 The Red Sphinx (1844)
• Twenty Years After (1845)
• The Vicomte de Bragelonne (1847) 3.5 Blood Royal (2020)
• Ten Years Later (1847)
• Louise De La Valliere (1845)
• The Man in the Iron Mask (1850)

 

[Cyath]

The maid in the story is severely underappreciated!

 

[anne O'nymous]

Your right there are multiple versions he is Count de la Fere. Not all versions are that way.

 

[Diconica]

The maid in the story is severely underappreciated!

I'm assuming the one that D'artagnan is interested in.
Depends on the version/adaptation. Some she plays a greater role, others she isn't a maid.

 

[Diconica]

It isn't my fault every writer / director... decided to take creative license with Dumas's work not holding true to everything he wrote. Got an issue with it take it up with them.

That said I think Dumas clearly wrote the better work. After all his inspired all those that followed.
Dumas also had his own creative liberties as well. Look how he portrayed the Cardinal vs the real individual.

None of what you are arguing about takes away from De Winter making a good character for a story.
You have a number of 6 or more years between when he attempts to have her hanged and when they run back into one another.
Heck depending on the adaption some she escapes, some she is let go effectively, some she takes her own life(maybe) ...

Think of all the stuff you have to work with.
Her time on the street, Her time in prison, her missions of spying and espionage for the Cardinal, Time with the Cardinal, Her free time, Her travels,
Seriously if you can't come up with content for this character it you have mush for brains.

 

[Cyath]

I have this fantasy in which the maid and the lady are bisexual and have BDSM sex with the Musketeers and each other

But yeah much more could be done.

 

[Diconica]

I have this fantasy in which the maid and the lady are bisexual and have BDSM sex with the Musketeers and each other

But yeah much more could be done.

There might already be one. There are a number of porn adaptations of the musketeers already.

 

[amaranta]

People just lazy. The historical setting of classic novels requires too much information to absorb for the average devs. It`s far easier to go to fantasy way, throw in one more demon king and consider it done.

 

[Diconica]

People just lazy. The historical setting of classic novels requires too much information to absorb for the average devs. It`s far easier to go to fantasy way, throw in one more demon king and consider it done.

Now there would be something interesting same story thrown into a fantasy universe.

 

[anne O'nymous]

It isn't my fault every writer / director... decided to take creative license with Dumas's work not holding true to everything he wrote.

But it's yours when you decide to use those purely personal reading, mostly due to length constraints, as being the story.
But well, I guess that yeah, Athos wasn't count De Ferle, and

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[amaranta]

Now there would be something interesting same story thrown into a fantasy universe.

There is a bunch femme fatale type of character in books and comics, but gamemakers prefer to avoid that. Maybe they wait for someone to succeed first, to follow. As always.
Basicaly only way to play something, that not in common trends, is a roleplay with people who share same ideas.

 

[simarimas]

If you can make her look like Rebecca De Mornay, I am all in!