In a harem game, would you let a guy die to add two more girl to your harem?

[Adabelitoo]

This is about an idea I have for a game, a game that I will 100% not do because I already have a game that already drains all my time out of me so doing two games would be suicide, but I still like to play with this idea on my mind.

Imagine that you get 4 girls for you, and this other guy gets 2. Why you ask? Because reasons. It isn't like this guy stole those 2 girls from you, the girls were just "assigned" to the guys. You, the player, don't even know that that guy or those 2 girls exists in the first place. You will eventually meet each other because you and that guy share a secret. The other guy is a cool dude, not a rival or a threat. You can become his friend or not get too involved with him. This other guy's girls are hot twin sisters. Your 4 girls are hot as well of course.

Thing is, some bad people want bad things to happen, and their way to do that is trying to kill him. You won't be warned about what action you did to get him killed or not, but in a nutshell, if you become his friends he lives, because reasons again, and if you ignore him he dies. You won't be the one killing him. You are always the good guy. If he dies, those 2 girls would be in your care and you can romance/fuck them too, and you'll be doing a good action by taking care of those 2 girls. Why you ask? Because reasons. The only way to get these hot twin sisters is if this other guy dies.

This game will have a lot of endings, and you wont be locked out of the good endings for having/not having this guy alive or these two girls in your harem. Based on that, you'll have less/more endings and some of them with bigger/smaller differences. The "happily ever after" for the harem and for each girl individually will always be on the table (based on this only, there are other plot/choices that could get you a bad ending). Please vote and thanks for reading.

 

[GreenGobbo]

Would entirely depend on how *I* (the player) see the other guy (the character).
Played a lot of games where the MC has a friend or even best friend that the MC (the character) just gets and is totally cool with, where I (the player) just cant stand or hate the friend for any variety of reasons.
So even if the MC thinks other guy is cool, if I as the player dislike that character for any reason... Yup. He's gonna die, just so I wouldn't have to see him around any more. The extra gals added to the harem would just be a nice bonus.

 

[redknight00]

The other guy should die for existing in the general vicinity of girls that rightfully belong to the Mc, ie every single female in the game.

 

[Gordon4321]

Valar morghulis

 

[paust.alex]

Will I allow 4 billion of the world's male population to die so that my harem will grow by at least 1 pretty, virgin girl? Absolutely.

 

[Agent HK47]

Bitch, I would kill a guy for a snickers bar in these games

 

[Mimir's Lab]

By the way you make it sound, looks like the guy is not very important to the story at all but you mentioned if he dies, you get to fuck his girls. This to me sounds like I would be cutting myself off of potential story with the girls for no gain other than knowing this unimportant guy is alive and well. You also said you get to choose to befriend him or stay away from him, effectively making him a stranger or an acquaintance of the MC. If I had to choose between helping a stranger or fucking two more girls, I choose the girls anyday.

 

[anne O'nymous]

[...] if you become his friends he lives, because reasons again, and if you ignore him he dies. [...] If he dies, those 2 girls would be in your care and you can romance/fuck them too, and you'll be doing a good action by taking care of those 2 girls.

From my point of view there's a big flaw here: As it, it reward the player for what will be mostly a passive action.
[globally speaking, it obviously not apply to all the players]
The player have a harem, while he would be interested in adding more girls in it, he wouldn't pursue girls that are unavailable. He also wouldn't be interested in loosing his time with a story that will mostly evolve a guy. Therefore, the player will ignore the guy, what lead to his death and the two girls joining his harem.
In the same time, since the player didn't cared about the guy when he was "alive", he would probably not care more about his death.

What would be a reward for an active action from the player would be to revert the premise:
If you befriend the guy, you'll be here at the right time and be able to save him. But he now know that there's a threat over his head. He need to radically change his life and to hide. Obviously he can't take the girls with him, they deserve better. And what's better than being passed to the MC and his care ? After all, MC is a good guy, he saved a life today...

 

[Adabelitoo]

By the way you make it sound, looks like the guy is not very important to the story at all but you mentioned if he dies, you get to fuck his girls. This to me sounds like I would be cutting myself off of potential story with the girls for no gain other than knowing this unimportant guy is alive and well. You also said you get to choose to befriend him or stay away from him, effectively making him a stranger or an acquaintance of the MC. If I had to choose between helping a stranger or fucking two more girls, I choose the girls anyday.

From my point of view there's a big flaw here: As it, it reward the player for what will be mostly a passive action.
[globally speaking, it obviously not apply to all the players]
The player have a harem, while he would be interested in adding more girls in it, he wouldn't pursue girls that are unavailable. He also wouldn't be interested in loosing his time with a story that will mostly evolve a guy. Therefore, the player will ignore the guy, what lead to his death and the two girls joining his harem.
In the same time, since the player didn't cared about the guy when he was "alive", he would probably not care more about his death.

What would be a reward for an active action from the player would be to revert the premise:
If you befriend the guy, you'll be here at the right time and be able to save him. But he now know that there's a threat over his head. He need to radically change his life and to hide. Obviously he can't take the girls with him, they deserve better. And what's better than being passed to the MC and his care ? After all, MC is a good guy, he saved a life today...

He plays an important role, but it doesn't lock the player into a particular good or bad ending, it just locks him into a different good or bad ending.

At the end of the day the questions is "Would you let a good guy die just to get two more girls if saving him was in your hands?" I want to put this question and that choice in people's hands. I said the word "reasons" because I don't want to get into details, I just want people to think about the moral dilemma.

 

[paust.alex]

"Would you let a good guy die just to get two more girls if saving him was in your hands?"

You need to rephrase it. "Will you chose to be NTRed by this nice guy, or will you take all the girls for yourself, especially if they are virgin?" No NTR.

 

[Adabelitoo]

You need to rephrase it. "Will you chose to be NTRed by this nice guy, or will you take all the girls for yourself, especially if they are virgin?" No NTR.

Who talked about NTR or virgins? I literally said that this guy never takes those girls away from you because they were already assigned to each guy.

Please don't try to force your preferences into my hypotetical game. Thanks.

 

[anne O'nymous]

At the end of the day the questions is "Would you let a good guy die just to get two more girls if saving him was in your hands?" I want to put this question and that choice in people's hands.

Then I'll say it otherwise: At no time I would feel that the decision was in my hands, nor that I effectively made a decision.

Basically, as it what you propose would feel like a timed choice ; I've 10 seconds to click on a button to interact with the guy, and I'll pass them waiting for the counter to reach 0.
Not guilty for his death, I took no decision and did absolutely nothing.

 

[paust.alex]

they were already assigned to each guy.

Isn't this already the NTR? Other girls are literally assigned for the other guy, not for you, for the other guy, different from you, he fucks them and they enjoy it. That's the very point of NTR. And if they were virgins, leaving that guy alive deprives you of the honour of being their first, I would kill not only that guy, but all his friends, family and even his dog or goldfish, seriously. Fuck him.

 

[Niv-Mizzet the Firemind]

For me it heavily depends on the story and the reasons.
If I like the bro path and the character, he'll live. If I like the other path better (story wise, not just because I'll add two girls in the harem), he'll die. In every case other than the first, the friend dies.

You won't be the one killing him. You are always the good guy.

Having said all that, I'd prefer to be the one doing the deed, either saving or killing. I don't think I'd consider anyone, myself included, a good guy if they let a friend die because of willful inaction.

Who talked about NTR or virgins? I literally said that this guy never takes those girls away from you because they were already assigned to each guy.

They are in a game and they are not getting dicked by the mc. Therefore, ntr

 

[おい！]

 

[javier_himura]

I will definitely let him die. In most erotic games I never feel attached to additional male characters, because in the end, I play for the sex scenes, for any non-erotic in the story, or the games I have other content like non-erotic games, series, books, etc. that there is so much available and the erotic game rarely can't compete with any of that. So, leaving him live does not provide me anything that interests me while letting him die allows me more sex scenes with the girls. The choice is easy. Of course, there is a chance that if he lives there are also sex scenes involving him, but that would be MMF threesomes or voyeur, and I am not interested in any of these things.

Isn't this already the NTR? Other girls are literally assigned for the other guy, not for you, for the other guy, different from you, he fucks them and they enjoy it. That's the very point of NTR.

No, it is not. The point of NTR is to take away from you. So to be NTR, the girls should be initially assigned to you and then the other guy fuck them. The girls could enjoy it or not; it is as much NTR that the girls enjoy as the contrary, while in fact, the most traditional Japanese NTR is when the girl doesn't enjoy it, for example, a story in which your girlfriend is blackmailed into fucking another guy that she hates to save you, that would be Japanese NTR on the more purist way.
In this case, the girls belong to that other guy before the game started, so it does not count as NTR.

 

[Banality]

i was very clear on the "save him" side but then you mentioned "Hot twins"
TBH.... i dearly hate porngame-characters to the core. I am pretty sure what the devs imagination of a "cool guy" is, is for me the definition of a dumb clown. And never forget: you play those games to unlock the pictures.... not to self-insert you in a most likely unsympathetic or to your standards pathetic or uncool MC. But reading in this forum showed me: my take on those games seems to be another than most of the posters. And now back to topic: if this are optional game-paths, why do you even ask? Let them be implemented and see how it works

 

[Adabelitoo]

Then I'll say it otherwise: At no time I would feel that the decision was in my hands, nor that I effectively made a decision.

You play the game, you reach the point when he lives or die based on your choices, you check the WT or the thread in F95, you find what choices lead you into that path, you find what things you can change if you wanted it.

It wasn't your decision, but it was the result of your actions, and once you check the WT/thread, it's your decision to keep him dead or alive.

Isn't this already the NTR? Other girls are literally assigned for the other guy, not for you, for the other guy, different from you, he fucks them and they enjoy it. That's the very point of NTR. And if they were virgins, leaving that guy alive deprives you of the honour of being their first, I would kill not only that guy, but all his friends, family and even his dog or goldfish, seriously. Fuck him.

They are in a game and they are not getting dicked by the mc. Therefore, ntr

Guys, in case you didn't get it, what redknight00 said was just a joke. I get you guys don't like NTR, but please stop talking about NTR on thread where no one talked about NTR in the first place.

And now back to topic: if this are optional game-paths, why do you even ask?

Just curious. I like to play with the idea in my mind.

 

[Banality]

Guys, in case you didn't get it, what redknight00 said was just a joke.

Let me assure you: they really don't get it Some of them need tranquilizers when they see another male in a background-pic

 

[Carpe Stultus]

Let me assure you: they really don't get it Some of them need tranquilizers when they see another male in a background-pic

Yeah some people should not be allowed near any porn or god forbid real people.

To the topic itself: The women are not available so hands off. There is no reason to get that other guy killed except you are one of the people mentioned above.