VN - Ren'Py - Incest [Ch.2 v0.5.5] [17MOONKEYS]

Since the dev asked for feedback I'll be more specific:

- I understand that getting good sound effects is not easy, but I believe the same effect could be achieve without the screems sound effect that everyone has heard before, it gets to the point is more funny than fitting, the rest is fine, but I feel theres more interesting ways to use other sound effects.
-The pacing and writing need work, both in the erotic and the scary aspects, it's funny how for genres that many people may think different actually share many key points, for example, the build up is lacking so it feels kind of rushed when we reach the scary or steamy momments. The scary parts are fine since they're supposed to be snapy but for the sex theres little tension, no sense of a clear climax and no aftermath so to speak. Theres good parts like the last conversation between the mother and the aunt but the inner monologue of the MC can be worked on.
-This has the VN tag, and with such good looking moddels for the women here it's a shame most of the shots are medium full shots. The close ups to the genitals are fitting for the feeling it's trying to convey but this could be even better with more close ups, for example, the parts where you read about the feelings and background of the aunt and the mother since it's just a still shot with no change in the face expression it lacks any emotional impact, theres no need for a full fleshed flashback but more renders with different faces could spice things up. The same can be applied to the MC, pretty bold to use inmerse at the menu but theres just a few texts about him, and with no signs of how is he as a character, since this is a kinetic novel it would be appropriate to show this, beacuse without this elements this may as well be a rpg type of game with sprites for all the characters and a submenu with their information and stats.
- This one is more of a nitpick but for me it breaks the inmmersion when I see the doll from RE, any other scary or old doll would have done the trick.

Been my first interaction with this dev I like the style but theres room for improvement.

I want to say that I SEE the vision. I see the potential here, but I feel like this game suffers from a severe lack of direction.

First off, I wanna say the visuals are great. Great models for the women, high fidelity, the sexual scenes look good. I also appreciated the fact this is one of the few AVNs with genuinely good body hair. Unfortunately, it seems like there's been a decision to start removing all body hair as the story continues, which I'm pretty disappointed about.

Honestly, if there was a choice to say if they should have body hair or not, I feel like that'd at least be better, although I understand that'd include more work having to include different slides for bush/shaved.
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The story itself has a strong foundation in terms of a haunted doll that grants wishes, however the potential scope seems to leave me a bit confused? One of the wishes (of three) in the game is, and I quote, "I wish every woman wants to have sex with me". Now that covers any sort of porn logic in the future, but we've only actually seen 3 women shown in the two chapters: the mom, the aunt, and the sister. We haven't even heard any other women related to the MC, or anyone else. No friends or acquaintances or anything else that would show us where the AVN is eventually going to go.

That last sentiment kinda encompasses the whole AVN really: there's no sense of where it's actually going. In the majority of AVNs (and games/novels in general) you understand the goal of the protagonist. The issue is that since the first chapter, the MC has literally had every wish fulfilled. Baba Yaga is the only one driving the story, which means the MC is literally entirely reactive. He makes no real choices on his own, he has no personal motivations or goals.

This also shows by the fact that this is essentially an entirely kinetic novel. There were a couple 'choices' at the start of the AVN, but they were basically entirely meaningless and seemingly served no purpose. It seems like 17MOONKEYS knew that was the case, because the entire second chapter doesn't have a single choice. Kinetic novels are fine, but you need a genuinely engaging story to keep the player wanting more, and I simply don't think this is the case atm. I believe it could be good with some rewriting, but I feel like it would simply be easier to give the players some sense of choice to make the players more forgiving.

As previously mentioned, the protagonist really has no motivations to speak of. At least in Chapter 1 he goes "I want to fuck my aunt", but in the second he seems to just competely lose this motivation for the sake of drawing it out. I don't know if it's meant to be that it's as a result of his wish being fulfilled, but he literally states in Chapter 1 BEFORE the wish that he's been into his aunt for years. I mean you're telling me he just never looked up the legality beforehand, despite him having the hots for her? Suddenly, after ALREADY having had sex, NOW he's too upset to actually do anything? He's already done it, there's no going back afterwards. This isn't like accidentally not paying your taxes and you get an extension. Also some dialogue is just...completely unnecessary? Like what did the discussion about voting add? It just comes out of nowhere, and can also be skipped.
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Ultimately, I'm giving it a 7/10 because i see the genuine potential it has to actually be something good. These changes aren't actually THAT big, all it requires is some adjusting.

The scenes are far too bright. Almost halving the brightness could help a lot for a horror perspective, especially with how much one light brightens up a room. Also avoiding scenes with sunny displays where possible. Also I get the magic stuff but the women in this cave into the acts of incest far too fast. Magic or not some mental resistance and daily progression is very much needed. Horror isn't something instant or fast paced, psychological horror is a good slow burn. The characters look good though, and I assume when actual scenes happen there will be good animation at the very least.

On another note I would like the women bush to be optional, it's not always there but I'd rather not see it. Same with futa, these things should always be an option toggle.

Maybe you'll get the full game in 20 years.

Decent models. Somewhat interesting story that suddenly backtracks. And occasionally changes per update. As in past story gets adjusted. I can't remember if i got the first release in 2022.. i just know that for all the years I've followed this game. Only one sex scene to show for it is.... I should finally say enough is enough.

17MOONKEYS, you absolutely cooked with this one! Story line seems believable and consistent. I really hope that you keep the hairy content at least as an option- I'm a young guy and I absolutely love the rawness of it.
- The game seems to have a good and natural flow with some spookiness.
- I especially love the female arousal renders, it adds to the sensuality with your focus on the olfactory senses-I love it.
- So great so far, I only hope that you make the breasts look more natural and if possible add some optional urination content
Fingers crossed for the next update!

Well I played the pervious version of the game,and I rate it better than the most of the games in website.But I think there are some parts that could be better.
1. The MC just doesn't feel enough on himself the consequences of his actions,it was like "Oh! Elder powerful with who gives me nightmares make me bang my family!"
And the price is saying the wich I find new body for you soon for the days and going banging everything else.
2. I would like if there will be some development before relationship,how are changing their social norms,how they was feeling before/after internal monologues of characters, and choices depending and developing the story with them. I think if you add more of how they are changing in story and they look on different social norms and relationships then the characters would get additional development.
3. EVEN though for 1-st point with all the price MC should be enjoying and take as much he can, because only in that case he could pass through it with thought that everything worth it(and keep mentality in some sort of state).
4. Lack of choices and impact.I want enjoy the story,but I would like have some choices that change the story and develop it .I like having some influence and taking prices for actions.
5.I want more fetishes that would appear in story next, something like exhibitionism or something else that would show crashing of social norms,and maybe something heavier.
The pluses:
1. Good atmosphere and story.I'm not disappointed-Moonkeys if you're reading this then know I like it.
Also the horrors part is based on psychology and that is best choice for 2d renpy story based game
2. As always-Good models, interesting scenes.
3. Great overall idea.

So far so good. Hopefully the artist gets the funding needed to keep it going. Excellent camera work, btw. Obviously someone who enjoys good cinematography. Models are top tier. Story is fun and succinct. No annoying sandboxing. Clear paths.

This is somehow an amazingly interesting story. A story that starts with a nephew and his aunt in a familial house turns into a slight horror story about a haunted doll to hot incest to tension between the nephew and his mother. I honestly find the premise of the aunt getting slightly lied to for the nephew to bed her and it turns into the mother wanting the same thing on her own but with the tension since the son is so hesitant as is she. Then the aunt is full bore for it and is trying to get her sister (his mom) to let go herself. While i cant say this is the best vn to do incest, its as i said quite interesting. While i've seen the aunt in other stories, ive never seen the mother but even still they both look incredibly hot and i love the detail of wetness that the mother gets time and time again. The story surrounding the sister also is getting interesting as to how that will pan out. The largest aspect i could do without is the husband/father being there, never been a fan of having the husband being there or possibly finding out or stumbling into it. That type of tension does nothing for me. All in all though, waiting for the updates for this continue to drive me mad because the tension is nice but getting a bit of tension just to get blue balled by the "MORE TO COME" is depressig everytime it happens. Long story short, there still isnt much there beyond when it was called our secret but the story is interesting, tension is pretty decent, and getting to enjoy some shapely, plump milfs is a pretty good time.

Good start, gr8 writing for the genre that feel both dangerous and taboo, even with its limited content.
The game is not simply meet and fuck, there is a lot that going on and that is its strength.
Characters design are one of the better ones for milf category,
Only drawback imo is that the length of the game is too short to meaningfully judge the product as a whole.
4.2

The story seems very, very interesting and glues to the screen, but more choices and consequences need to be made in my opinion.
The horror aspect of the game, apart from the disturbing doll, is not that it shines through significantly, here too some scenes would be put which, through terror, lead to pondering choices and consequences and perhaps sex scenes forced by the situation or presence.
Otherwise very nice.

It's a great game!
It's a great game! I personally liked the part with the variety of choices and I hope it will lead to at least two different consequences and not just different texts, well, the mystical part is very interesting.

I like this developer's games, but their character reworks annoy me. I have to restart the game every time because old saves don't work.

The story is 5/10, nothing original that I haven't seen in other incest games. Interesting horror theme with a cursed doll.

The characters are 7/10. The aunt is a well-known and very popular MILF character from other games. The big downside is that she doesn't have as much bush as in older updates.

The game offers a few options, 4/10, but there's no option to choose whether the aunt should shave her bush or not.

The sex scenes are 5+/10, okay, nothing original that I haven't seen in other games.

The music is 5/10 and okay.

The game has potential, but there's no choice, as there's no option to choose whether the character should shave their bush. Constantly replaying the game after a new update is annoying.

[v0.5]

I've tried playing this VN multiple times across different updates but each time I just failed to see the appeal. The porn is not sexy, the story is weird, the characters are unlikable or even repulsive (this mc is getting on my nerves), the models are just asset flips, the renders are mediocre and there are no animations, the 'horror' is not scary, and even "REAL INCEST" lacks qualities that supposed to make it hot. It takes less than an hour to finish current build and there is only one actual proper sex scene (and even that is pretty short). Considering that the dev is split between FIVE ongoing projects, I'd expect this one to maybe release somewhere in the 2030s, best case scenario. I do not recommend trying it unless you're an abstract arts appreciator.

Great game . it's rare to find half interesting story in h-games . this one is interesting, the characters not just different sizes of boobs . i would suggest adding cousins because its a whole subclass of this "incest " tag. Additionally changing the font to fit the surrounding would be nice in the white bathroom change the white text into black makes it easier to read. The intro is quick and right to the core of the game its nice refreshing , no 30 min monologue. Im just curious how the pacing will be after the intro .

Version 0.4.9

Story is imaginative and original. There are a good amount of familiar concepts, but also new elements that set this story apart. I love that I don´t know how the story will continue. Even if the story isn't any more complicated than a regular horror movie.
Writing does its job to give characters personalities. In some games, the story takes pauses for long monologues, coffee-chit-chat, or funny jokes. In this game the writing is mainly character conversations, that keeps the main story moving.

Visually game is great. Picture quality is good. Women are natural, beautiful and sexy.
Camera angles and dedication to small details here and there make the visuals so much more immersive and vivid.

The game has its own strengths and distinct qualities, and it really shines in the areas it focuses on. It may not aim to be for everyone, but what it sets out to do, it does exceptionally well. I think this is the mentality to make the next Reservoir Dogs or Memento of AVN games.

Awesome story and execution. Only drawback is too little content. Hope you get the support and make awesome games.


Making it slow burn with lot of content will make it more interesting. Involving the dad character is cool from my opinion. Hope he supports the son on his journey.

Characters appear naked next to the chatbox, first thing that ook me WAY off from any kind of immersion.
There was nothing showing the MC looking at her breast, yet he mentions being caught looking. I guess its a work in progress and perhaps you'll see to those details later on, like actually focusing on something instead of just casually mention it in the chat box.

The story telling is off imo, but the story you're trying to tell has promise.

I wish you the best on this, but it needs a lot of work still.

So far (4.7) it has a good story and great models with a good bit of humor mixed in. hope android 17 keeps up the good work.

As someone with an impregnation fetish I also hope to see plenty of this in the future---if possible.

Renders are high quality, writing is good, story is very original and one of the most interesting on the site. Definitely worth an attempt at reading. Only downside is models kind of seem similar to other stock ones, but they're unique enough to not be distracting

The story is scary - the level is equal to edgar allan poe and NOT like some modern horror shockers. I like that very much.

The lenght of the dialogues is enjoyable. Not too short and not exhausting.
The storytelling is eclectic and brings a lot of new ideas.
By now NOT the same old stuff like the annoying older sister and the curious untouched younger sister.
By now i could not find any logical mistakes in the plot.
The polt is written so good, that i almost feel compassion for the (soon?) horned husband.

The Graphic is on the usual good level like many renpy games here.