tgp31

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It's not a bug, it's an event. If you paid attention to the scene you'd realize that.
Regarding the Midnight Fence, he is meant to be inaccessible when you play as God Emperor. The intended meaning behind this is that he recognizes who/what you are an is confused by your presence at that point. He doesn't remember much, but he knows that it is not yet time for gods to walk the earth once more.
Thank you both for clearing my doubt, but what about my other save? it still does't show MF in other normal NG+ start. not even in No Bonus start.

Oh and Datawungui, what scene you are talking about. sorry for me asking this. there are so many things to do in this game, I might have missed the mention about this. can you tell me in which scene does it tell us so?
 

Wape

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Thank you both for clearing my doubt, but what about my other save? it still does't show MF in other normal NG+ start. not even in No Bonus start.
Well then that's a mystery. Send me your save and I'll take a look.
 

tgp31

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I tried the save, and any start I tried I had the option to seek out the MF. Did you send the right save, or am I misunderstanding?
yes wape. and in the save before it, MF is unlocked from the start and now as per you, in this save i have to find him again. so what happened? one time he is unlocked and second time he is to be unlocked. this is so confusing. not a major problem i guess. i'll just start from my old save and have to earn some tokens again. that's fine by me. thanks anyway.
 

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Great game. I initially passed on it after trying it briefly, but decided to try it again now. It's a lot deeper than it appeared at first glance, both in terms of mechanics and content. Good writing, consistent tone and an interesting and well executed concept. I was skeptical about the real porn (not a fan of that in games), but it was surprisingly well integrated into the narrative, with few scenes breaking immersion.

As for complaints I don't really have any other than me being too dumb to figure out how to get a lot of the endings, or what to do with certain items (like the gear or the gun). Hope there'll be a sequel eventually.

It's also nice with a game that plays differently rather than being yet another rather pointless DAZ3D visual novel...
 

MisterAnon04

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Great game. I initially passed on it after trying it briefly, but decided to try it again now. It's a lot deeper than it appeared at first glance, both in terms of mechanics and content. Good writing, consistent tone and an interesting and well executed concept. I was skeptical about the real porn (not a fan of that in games), but it was surprisingly well integrated into the narrative, with few scenes breaking immersion.

As for complaints I don't really have any other than me being too dumb to figure out how to get a lot of the endings, or what to do with certain items (like the gear or the gun). Hope there'll be a sequel eventually.

It's also nice with a game that plays differently rather than being yet another rather pointless DAZ3D visual novel...
Not just hopefully, @Wape already has a sequel planned. I believe the tentative title was "Incubus Island".
 

Wape

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I was skeptical about the real porn (not a fan of that in games), but it was surprisingly well integrated into the narrative, with few scenes breaking immersion.
Glad you liked the game. I'm noticing a slight pattern in the number of people who mention liking the game but not liking real porn. It's a little off-topic, but would you (Korder, or anyone to which this also applies) mind explaining this? Just in brief. Is it just the characteristics of how porn tends to be, or a general disinterest in 'real' women, or some other thing?

My interest is purely curiosity. (Myself, I much prefer porn videos to hentai videos, but I enjoy hentai mangas and xxx comics and standalone art occasionally.)

It might interest you that my current project Just Rape Pretty Girls will be hentai CG based.
 

Drakavius

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Glad you liked the game. I'm noticing a slight pattern in the number of people who mention liking the game but not liking real porn. It's a little off-topic, but would you (Korder, or anyone to which this also applies) mind explaining this? Just in brief. Is it just the characteristics of how porn tends to be, or a general disinterest in 'real' women, or some other thing?

My interest is purely curiosity. (Myself, I much prefer porn videos to hentai videos, but I enjoy hentai mangas and xxx comics and standalone art occasionally.)

It might interest you that my current project Just Rape Pretty Girls will be hentai CG based.
I think it might have to do how it integrates into the story. Many times I've seen the images don't seem consistent and to merge well with the plot. In the case of some they get poorly altered. You've kept things simple, and haven't pushed to integrate the assorted separate image sets together.
 

MisterAnon04

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Glad you liked the game. I'm noticing a slight pattern in the number of people who mention liking the game but not liking real porn. It's a little off-topic, but would you (Korder, or anyone to which this also applies) mind explaining this? Just in brief. Is it just the characteristics of how porn tends to be, or a general disinterest in 'real' women, or some other thing?

My interest is purely curiosity. (Myself, I much prefer porn videos to hentai videos, but I enjoy hentai mangas and xxx comics and standalone art occasionally.)

It might interest you that my current project Just Rape Pretty Girls will be hentai CG based.
I don't really mind what images are used. I'm fine with both 'real porn' or 'cartoons', as long as the creator understands moderation and keeping a theme. I start to have an issue with 'real porn' (and even some games that use third party art) when they just put random things together or saturate the scene with dozens of similar images.

Basically, I personally have nothing against 'real porn', just poor execution. And in that regard, you are doing quite well. I guess it also helps that you have good writing and are writing about fetishes I like (regardless of how good a creator is, if they start writing about Vore or Snuff I just wouldn't watch/play/read their stuff).
 

drevilbob

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So, personally I'm a fan of your game's use of real porn and think it's used appropriately. That said, some of the common reasons I tend to dislike it in other games include:
- Drawing porn is hard work. Because of this, games that rely on drawn porn (not CGs taken from hentai games, but drawn by the creator) have to rely a lot more upon sex scene writing and dialogue than they do on images, which basically guarantees that there *will* be sex scene writing and dialogue. On the other hand, a lot of real porn games have sex scenes that go "Fuck her" -> gif of a blowjob -> gif of doggystyle -> gif of a cumshot -> scene over. I personally don't find sex scenes to be hot at all without writing, although some people don't care about that sort of thing.
- You're limited by the type of porn available. This can lead to the context of sex scenes feeling pretty contrived because it's necessary to fit the model's content; "oh, let me just change into a different set of clothes and then we can fuck". In extreme cases, you get ridiculous shit like "oh, this is a sex tape of Girl A, but from a year ago when she had blonde hair and smaller tits". It breaks suspension of disbelief. Again, personally I find context pretty important to enjoying sex scenes; not everyone does. It can also just limit the secenes you get: the main girl in Tales of the Drunken Cowboy uses a model who doesn't have any hardcore scenes at all, and so she hardly ever actually has sex in the game except sort of offscreen, which I found to be a huge dissapointment.
- It's often stylistically jarring - obvious differences in style between different characters / different shoots, or it doesn't match the aesthetic of the rest of the game. Pretty much any hentai image fits well with the RPG Maker aesthetic ubiquitous in japanese games.
- It's often lacking in character. Pretty much every porn scene except a really specific, like, fetish shoot or something, has the girl look and fuck like a porn star. This is fine if the character in the game really is a porn star, but what if they're an innocent, shy virgin or a brash tomboy or an emotionless robot girl or a haughty bitch being blackmailed? Your average cheerleader-themed real porn movie features a 28-year-old woman in a cheerleader outfit who unconvincingly says a couple of sports-game-related lines before discarding the act faster than she discards her clothes and fucking like a Times Square hooker for 20 minutes.
 
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This game is great. The amount of stuff and the feeling of doing anything is awesome. I hope there will be more content to it, and that there will be a sequel. Really looking forward to see more of this.
 
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So, personally I'm a fan of your game's use of real porn and think it's used appropriately. That said, some of the common reasons I tend to dislike it in other games include:
- Drawing porn is hard work. Because of this, games that rely on drawn porn (not CGs taken from hentai games, but drawn by the creator) have to rely a lot more upon sex scene writing and dialogue than they do on images, which basically guarantees that there *will* be sex scene writing and dialogue. On the other hand, a lot of real porn games have sex scenes that go "Fuck her" -> gif of a blowjob -> gif of doggystyle -> gif of a cumshot -> scene over. I personally don't find sex scenes to be hot at all without writing, although some people don't care about that sort of thing.
- You're limited by the type of porn available. This can lead to the context of sex scenes feeling pretty contrived because it's necessary to fit the model's content; "oh, let me just change into a different set of clothes and then we can fuck". In extreme cases, you get ridiculous shit like "oh, this is a sex tape of Girl A, but from a year ago when she had blonde hair and smaller tits". It breaks suspension of disbelief. Again, personally I find context pretty important to enjoying sex scenes; not everyone does. It can also just limit the secenes you get: the main girl in Tales of the Drunken Cowboy uses a model who doesn't have any hardcore scenes at all, and so she hardly ever actually has sex in the game except sort of offscreen, which I found to be a huge dissapointment.
- It's often stylistically jarring - obvious differences in style between different characters / different shoots, or it doesn't match the aesthetic of the rest of the game. Pretty much any hentai image fits well with the RPG Maker aesthetic ubiquitous in japanese games.
- It's often lacking in character. Pretty much every porn scene except a really specific, like, fetish shoot or something, has the girl look and fuck like a porn star. This is fine if the character in the game really is a porn star, but what if they're an innocent, shy virgin or a brash tomboy or an emotionless robot girl or a haughty bitch being blackmailed? Your average cheerleader-themed real porn movie features a 28-year-old woman in a cheerleader outfit who unconvincingly says a couple of sports-game-related lines before discarding the act faster than she discards her clothes and fucking like a Times Square hooker for 20 minutes.
You're quite thorough, thanks. For all of these issues I found myself pushing up against the line, maybe crossing it, but I guess not enough for it to be noticeable. One of the reasons I'm changing the setting for the next incubus game (to a tropical island, with a protagonist who sleeps at night instead of during the day) is that there is simply a much greater volume of daylight porn scenes to pull from and therefore greater freedom in choosing girls and writing scenes.
 
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Glad you liked the game. I'm noticing a slight pattern in the number of people who mention liking the game but not liking real porn. It's a little off-topic, but would you (Korder, or anyone to which this also applies) mind explaining this? Just in brief. Is it just the characteristics of how porn tends to be, or a general disinterest in 'real' women, or some other thing?

My interest is purely curiosity. (Myself, I much prefer porn videos to hentai videos, but I enjoy hentai mangas and xxx comics and standalone art occasionally.)

It might interest you that my current project Just Rape Pretty Girls will be hentai CG based.
JRPG will hentai? My dreams are broken :(. Real porn was good enough and much better than hentai imho.
 
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