perception

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Aug 9, 2016
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Because they lack common sense.

It would be one thing if the devs clearly went for speed (and lacked quality) and delivered a shitty update after years.
But it's obvious they are investing a big chunk of time to give quality art with a point-and-click real game feel that they have a clear vision (yes, even if the story writing seems confusing at times, no one is perfect and they are improving it).

Idiots complain and can't even comprehend that the devs aren't developing the game exclusively for them, specially if they aren't contributing with either decent feedback or financing this.

Nowadays, I think most of complains come from "meme status" gained overtime in these forums / communities, that people have seen artists that can't handle being 100% invested in game development, and in the end fail to deliver, or change the scope to something manageable for them.
 

paragan

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Feb 18, 2018
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Because they lack common sense.

It would be one thing if the devs clearly went for speed (and lacked quality) and delivered a shitty update after years.
But it's obvious they are investing a big chunk of time to give quality art with a point-and-click real game feel that they have a clear vision (yes, even if the story writing seems confusing at times, no one is perfect and they are improving it).

Idiots complain and can't even comprehend that the devs aren't developing the game exclusively for them, specially if they aren't contributing with either decent feedback or financing this.

Nowadays, I think most of complains come from "meme status" gained overtime in these forums / communities, that people have seen artists that can't handle being 100% invested in game development, and in the end fail to deliver, or change the scope to something manageable for them.
I think reason is conflict between expectations and reality + long-term frustration. Everybody was awaiting something like Akabur´s Witch Trainer - only BIGGER AND BETTER ... when you look at pateron they are trying to sell you spectacular adventures with sexy witches.

Reality ?
- old school point and click adventure
- tons of minigames and puzzles (not everybody´s cup of tea) + grind
- slow corruption
- nice art (really nice - i mean world class)
- not enough sex (for people who want turn off brain and relax)
- walls of text + story (to be honest they work on it very hard)
- really long development

Conclusion:

Without nice art and interesting/famous setting it would be niche game (because of game mechanics). Now it attract people who want something else and are frustrated ...
 

Shinobikun

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Oct 5, 2017
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Because they lack common sense.

It would be one thing if the devs clearly went for speed (and lacked quality) and delivered a shitty update after years.
But it's obvious they are investing a big chunk of time to give quality art with a point-and-click real game feel that they have a clear vision (yes, even if the story writing seems confusing at times, no one is perfect and they are improving it).

Idiots complain and can't even comprehend that the devs aren't developing the game exclusively for them, specially if they aren't contributing with either decent feedback or financing this.

Nowadays, I think most of complains come from "meme status" gained overtime in these forums / communities, that people have seen artists that can't handle being 100% invested in game development, and in the end fail to deliver, or change the scope to something manageable for them.
Nah man, it's just that most people compare the game's development speed to other games and are able to come to the conclusion that the team behind innocent witches is at best extremely badly managed and at worst outright milking patreons by putting in 10 hour work weeks.

The devs can make as many promises as they want, but even in the past two year, where developement speed has skyrocketed from before (at which point it was non-existant), only 1 sex scene has been implemented every 4-6 months.

For example, iirc last year in december the hermione handjob scene was added and this year that god-awful minerva scene plus the susan titjob was added (both hermione and susan using the same background as the old scene with ginny btw). If you're a 10$-patreon you're paying them almost 120$ to add two, maybe three scenes a year. Something even high quality games (e.g. What a legend) include in a single update plus more (way more in fact).

Of course the art is top notch and way above most other games art quality, but 4-6 months for one scene? Laughable.

Their ability to keep patreons hooked via progress reports is amazing though. It's all empty promises of course, but who keeps count, right? I'm still waiting for the new luna and daphne mini-games that barely didn't make it in a patch maybe a year ago.
 

perception

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Aug 9, 2016
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Nah man, it's just that most people compare the game's development speed to other games and are able to come to the conclusion that the team behind innocent witches is at best extremely badly managed and at worst outright milking patreons by putting in 10 hour work weeks.

The devs can make as many promises as they want, but even in the past two year, where developement speed has skyrocketed from before (at which point it was non-existant), only 1 sex scene has been implemented every 4-6 months.

For example, iirc last year in december the hermione handjob scene was added and this year that god-awful minerva scene plus the susan titjob was added (both hermione and susan using the same background as the old scene with ginny btw). If you're a 10$-patreon you're paying them almost 120$ to add two, maybe three scenes a year. Something even high quality games (e.g. What a legend) include in a single update plus more (way more in fact).

Of course the art is top notch and way above most other games art quality, but 4-6 months for one scene? Laughable.

Their ability to keep patreons hooked via progress reports is amazing though. It's all empty promises of course, but who keeps count, right? I'm still waiting for the new luna and daphne mini-games that barely didn't make it in a patch maybe a year ago.
But that's it, most of the people here aren't even contributing with any decent and reasonable feedback and want the devs to cave into their specific demands?

What's the goal? They want to side-manage what others spend now in Patreon by "memeing" here that no progress is done in their opinion?
It's clearly not working then, as people fund the development because they still see value in it, even if it's a hobby and the devs can't go full-time for any reason. They can't do everything in an instant with the quality they are obvious spending.

Seems that most don't even understand that 18k isn't nearly enough to go from hobby to fulltime with a team, and at solo it's obvious too much work for one guy.
They end just whining either because they want someone to cave to their specific demands or are jealous their hobby isn't funded by people that see value in it.


I think reason is conflict between expectations and reality + long-term frustration. Everybody was awaiting something like Akabur´s Witch Trainer - only BIGGER AND BETTER ... when you look at pateron they are trying to sell you spectacular adventures with sexy witches.

Reality ?
- old school point and click adventure
- tons of minigames and puzzles (not everybody´s cup of tea) + grind
- slow corruption
- nice art (really nice - i mean world class)
- not enough sex (for people who want turn off brain and relax)
- walls of text + story (to be honest they work on it very hard)
- really long development

Conclusion:

Without nice art and interesting/famous setting it would be niche game (because of game mechanics). Now it attract people who want something else and are frustrated ...
Exactly, what they expect complaining in here instead without decent feedback, again and again and also constantly recall Akabur, probably associating his scaling down overtime in game dev to this game too.

Despite the original story setup being similar, and some intentions to go in a certain direction, this has nothing to do with the type of game that the devs seem to be trying to do and is explained in their Patreon.

It's all pointless complaints from people that just seem frustrated, aren't contributing in any meaningful way.
 
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crankberry

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Jan 11, 2021
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I found an interesting bug. I downloaded the newer patch and started a new game. Just after the Painting by the fireplace event completes in stead of continuing it kicks me back to main menu. I tried all the options. Did it every time. I can start past that chapter but how does one find bugs unless the play from the start right?

Fyi I am running with a ryzen 3, and a geforce 950. 16 gigs ram. Older system but hey I can play fallout 4, Witcher 3 on it.
 

bitternutter

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Jun 26, 2019
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It's truly inspiring seeing where this game started, and where it is now, with development style and patreons. It's comfirting to know that a dedicated amount of people are willing to invest and wait to create a game for themselves. Keep it going. Maybe I'll have a shot one day too.
 
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Jon Humbert

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It is funny they are rewriting the script, when they constantly were bragging about how good was the old story, every post had the "hey peeps, update delayed because we are stuck writing this academy award worthy dialogues"
It's not gonna change, they keep getting bigger, people support them in pools and even over here, unironically defending "I play for the plot" in this fucking porn game with all the cliches on the book
 
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madelein-00

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can someone post the save files? the one i downloaded isn't working anymore, i just want the gallery unlocked and that mod doesnt work either
 
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Zirael Q

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I do t understand how do you get Hermione Granger photo in the book I thought you only had a Daphne photo ?
Nope, you can have all 4 of them. Hermione reacts to all of them slightly differently. She will do one extra thing if you have her pic, she'll be more aggressive if it's Daphne etc.
 

Pandawear

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Sep 2, 2021
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I am just hoping on more:
Luna
Daphne
Ginny
Hermione scenes.

In the above order. I always thought Suzan and Minerva were more meme characters.
 

buqlaw

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why can't I get the the second chapter of Act 2 to begin? When I wear the Diadem and proceed to next chapter the story ends up taking me to main menu quickly?
 
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