Daz Is RTX 4050 mobile useless or not?

[MrDepressedGB]

So, I tried a little bit of rendering on my computer to see if it took longer than expected. And the answer was obvious, it is. If my grandma had a bike, she would probably ride it in half the time it takes for my laptop to render a single frame.

A single G8 character with clothing, hair, a golden palace, and an environment alone can take half an hour to render.

That's when I was wondering if using Daz 3D to create a visual kinetic novel was a little bit too much for my laptop. My biggest problem is I don't want to overheat or take a risk if my hardware stops working.

My specs: Lenovo LOQ 15APH8
- Ryzen 5 7640HS
- RTX 4050 6 GB VRAM mobile
- 16 GB RAM
- 512 SSD

However, I want to try Studio Neo (HS2/Illusion). But I don't think 512 SSD was enough because my Windows took 36 GB for their system and other software exists in my laptop. So it ruled out the possibility.

Keep in mind that I'm still learning to use Daz 3D (I'm basically a noob), and money is also a big factor for me. So, I won't be able to afford a PC eight or nine years down the line. Should I give up? Or maybe tweak the settings in Daz 3D, maybe?

If you guys can help me, I would be more than grateful. Thank you.

 

[Winterfire]

All of that is so tiny.

512gb ssd is not enough, I think my KK folder alone is over 100gb, and HS2 is probably the double. Daz3D (Between scenes and assets) would easily top that as well. You'll need at the very least a few hdds for storage.

6gb vram is not enough for rendering, you can struggle it through I suppose... Worth it? I wouldn't say so. I sure wouldn't. Maybe I'd give Blender rendering a shot. The ram is also not ideal.

If I were in you, i'd give up on Daz3D, buy a 2tb hdd, and start making the game with HS2. Save up money, and make your 2nd project with Daz3D.

 

[MrDepressedGB]

If I were in you, i'd give up on Daz3D, buy a 2tb hdd, and start making the game with HS2. Save up money, and make your 2nd project with Daz3D.

First of all, thank you for the answer. So, this 2TB HDD should be internal or external?

 

[Winterfire]

First of all, thank you for the answer. So, this 2TB HDD should be internal or external?

Up to you, you can just get it external. I've had stuff running on external hdds and it was reasonably fast. You could spend more and replace your 512ssd with something bigger, but then you'd need to reinstall windows and other things which is a PITA. I doubt your laptop has slots for more ssds.

 

[MrDepressedGB]

Up to you, you can just get it external. I've had stuff running on external hdds and it was reasonably fast. You could spend more and replace your 512ssd with something bigger, but then you'd need to reinstall windows and other things which is a PITA. I doubt your laptop has slots for more ssds.

Thanks for the answer. Much appreciated.

 

[GNVE]

Up to you, you can just get it external. I've had stuff running on external hdds and it was reasonably fast. You could spend more and replace your 512ssd with something bigger, but then you'd need to reinstall windows and other things which is a PITA. I doubt your laptop has slots for more ssds.

You can technically clone the drive. Not optimal and no guarantees but it worked for me.

 

[eri]

What you can do with 6gb of vram is you can use scene optimizer for characters / hair and so to reduce things that are 8k/4k resolution to less then when you have a scene with 2-3 chars which with 6gb of vram is probably really hard to do then you can also reduce subdivision level of thigns and characters. So basicly with all that you can have one character fully sized 4k and others with clothing like really low. Then you can render with spot render left side of render where your one character is then load your original scene and render right side and now left side would be resized. Ahm ...
Also for me ssd always better then a hdd... thou I have one external hdd which seems to work okay.
So probably resized with scene optimizer as much as you can and then spot render or not spot render.

*Not sure if subdivision will screw the shadows of character as basicly subD will change characters a hmm .... how much sharp/polygons they have I think if you will be doing rendering with as I said with spot render tool.
*512 ssd for long term working with daz is low. But external hdd is okay.

 

[MrDepressedGB]

What you can do with 6gb of vram is you can use scene optimizer for characters / hair and so to reduce things that are 8k/4k resolution to less then when you have a scene with 2-3 chars which with 6gb of vram is probably really hard to do then you can also reduce subdivision level of thigns and characters. So basicly with all that you can have one character fully sized 4k and others with clothing like really low. Then you can render with spot render left side of render where your one character is then load your original scene and render right side and now left side would be resized. Ahm ...
Also for me ssd always better then a hdd... thou I have one external hdd which seems to work okay.
So probably resized with scene optimizer as much as you can and then spot render or not spot render.

*Not sure if subdivision will screw the shadows of character as basicly subD will change characters a hmm .... how much sharp/polygons they have I think if you will be doing rendering with as I said with spot render tool.
*512 ssd for long term working with daz is low. But external hdd is okay.

Hey, thank you for the insight. Much appreciated.

 

[MrDepressedGB]

Up to you, you can just get it external. I've had stuff running on external hdds and it was reasonably fast. You could spend more and replace your 512ssd with something bigger, but then you'd need to reinstall windows and other things which is a PITA. I doubt your laptop has slots for more ssds.

Hey, can I ask you something should I buy an HDD external WD Black P10 2TB Game Drive or WD My Passport 2TB? However, the problem is that the WD Black P10 2TB is unavailable in any store in my country. Or should I wait? Does it not matter if I run HS 2 Character Creation and Studio Neo on any HDD? Thank you.

 

[Winterfire]

Hey, can I ask you something should I buy an HDD external WD Black P10 2TB Game Drive or WD My Passport 2TB? However, the problem is that the WD Black P10 2TB is unavailable in any store in my country. Or should I wait? Does it not matter if I run HS 2 Character Creation and Studio Neo on any HDD? Thank you.

I am not an hardware expert so I cannot tell you which one is better, but from my own personal experience, I've ran games and software from an external HDD without any issue.

 

[MrDepressedGB]

I am not an hardware expert so I cannot tell you which one is better, but from my own personal experience, I've ran games and software from an external HDD without any issue.

Thank you for the response. Would you care to share what HDD brand you're using? If not, it's not a problem. I just don't want to waste money on something short.

 

[Winterfire]

Thank you for the response. Would you care to share what HDD brand you're using? If not, it's not a problem. I just don't want to waste money on something short.

It's currently stored away, but it's a random chinese one and very very old (10+ years), yet when I used it a few years ago, I had no issues. I just switched it with a ssd because it was in the way and preferred to have something inside my PC instead.
Safe to assume that if I hadn't any issue with such a cheap and old HDD, I'm pretty confident you wouldn't have any issue either.

 

[MrDepressedGB]

It's currently stored away, but it's a random chinese one and very very old (10+ years), yet when I used it a few years ago, I had no issues. I just switched it with a ssd because it was in the way and preferred to have something inside my PC instead.
Safe to assume that if I hadn't any issue with such a cheap and old HDD, I'm pretty confident you wouldn't have any issue either.

Thank you for the insight. I'm sorry for wasting your timen. But I really much appreciate it. Thank you.

 

[Eezergoode]

With only 6gb of VRAM, anything in Daz is going to be touch and go. One thing you can do is use older models, like Gen 3, and/or render out several things separately and composite them together after the fact. Also, mobile video cards have a bad habit of running VERY hot (Not always, but more often than you might think), due to laptop manufacturers often not adding sufficient cooling to the laptop, which frequently results in them running slow due to throttling, or just crapping out altogether. BUT it is possible. I used to use a 1650 super 6GB to render, so it is totally possible, but you have to figure out how to keep the VRAM usage down. Scene optimization, older models, and compositing several separate renders together can all help achieve this. If I was using Gen8, I would render the background, then render each figure sperarately, then composite them all together at the end.

 

[MrDepressedGB]

With only 6gb of VRAM, anything in Daz is going to be touch and go. One thing you can do is use older models, like Gen 3, and/or render out several things separately and composite them together after the fact. Also, mobile video cards have a bad habit of running VERY hot (Not always, but more often than you might think), due to laptop manufacturers often not adding sufficient cooling to the laptop, which frequently results in them running slow due to throttling, or just crapping out altogether. BUT it is possible. I used to use a 1650 super 6GB to render, so it is totally possible, but you have to figure out how to keep the VRAM usage down. Scene optimization, older models, and compositing several separate renders together can all help achieve this. If I was using Gen8, I would render the background, then render each figure sperarately, then composite them all together at the end.

That sounds like a bad risk to my laptop.

And it reminded me when I'm playing Victoria 3 or Baldur's Gate 3. It is overheating my devices. So that's why I stop playing a heavy game.

So, I'm going to stick with Studio Neo for now. But thanks for the insight, very much appreciated.

 

[Winterfire]

That sounds like a bad risk to my laptop.

And it reminded me when I'm playing Victoria 3 or Baldur's Gate 3. It is overheating my devices. So that's why I stop playing a heavy game.

So, I'm going to stick with Studio Neo for now. But thanks for the insight, very much appreciated.

Computer components can handle pretty high heat, and once they reach a too high temperature, the computer will shut down to protect itself. You can also buy cooling pads which make the temperatures drop a few degrees.