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OllisNews

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Of course, I am also waiting for an update. But I am no longer willing to wait for promises. I don't give a cent more for announcements.
 

IHATESlowburnBluBallgames

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Hey guys, shocking news! Jessica O'Neil calls stoperArt :WaitWhat:


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That is perfect man, now we just got to get one of Sophia calling L$P telling him 6 years is long enough to wait to get laid by someone other than her 3 minute man hubby
 

Gunizz

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Not sure why stoper's income is the topic again, but some of y'all seem to forget that stoper has to pay taxes, and Patreon is taking a cut aswell. So, his net income is far from $2000 a month.

Patreon takes 5% of their creators subscription money. Then there's payment processing, currency conversion, payout fees and taxes. That leaves stoper with roughly $1200 net income a month. One of the reasons why I'm pretty sure he's working on other projects, even though he says this is what he's doing fulltime. That's in my opinion why updates are taking forever, not all the other nonsense he's coming up with. Other projects or sources of income make him lazy, but he'd obviously never say that as it would result in less free patron money every month.

As for the average in Italy, it's like Bullx said. That calculation doesn't mean anything as the gap between poor and rich is so massive, yet the majority of people in most (if not all) countries are on the lower end.
I agree with everything. I too think Stoper is probably doing paid works for others, because his software setup (and knowledge) is so overkill for a VN. He uses: DAZ Studio, iray, Marvelous Designer, ZBrush, Photoshop, V-Ray, Cinema 4D. Those license are not cheap. Most VN developers use only DAZ Studio, very few post produce the renderings with Photoshop. Almost nobody uses other software.
But there is also another aspect: using all these "extra" software takes a lot of time. So we have to consider that producing a single image could take him much more time compared to the average developer.
 

johnsmith066

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Hi everyone i just finshed making several assets for my vn to be, i attached a sample of my work, i just wanted to know from you guys if it's ok or not. My planned game would have its main categories towards swinging , sharing, and old man, Thanks!

P.s. i made it via sketchbook for android Screenshot_20230817_222143_Gallery.jpg
 

GingerSweetGirl

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I agree with everything. I too think Stoper is probably doing paid works for others, because his software setup (and knowledge) is so overkill for a VN. He uses: DAZ Studio, iray, Marvelous Designer, ZBrush, Photoshop, V-Ray, Cinema 4D. Those license are not cheap. Most VN developers use only DAZ Studio, very few post produce the renderings with Photoshop. Almost nobody uses other software.
But there is also another aspect: using all these "extra" software takes a lot of time. So we have to consider that producing a single image could take him much more time compared to the average developer.
Absolutely. But it's overkill and reaches the point of not just Diminishing Returns but actually Negative Returns. This industry is drowning in low effort art, but it's also getting starved of good art. It isn't long-term sustainable that the games with the best art only release one or two updates a year.
 

Tulrek

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Absolutely. But it's overkill and reaches the point of not just Diminishing Returns but actually Negative Returns. This industry is drowning in low effort art, but it's also getting starved of good art. It isn't long-term sustainable that the games with the best art only release one or two updates a year.
I agree.

I talked to Stoper a bit about it and he said he was going to set up time jumps.

Because at this rate, it will take him years to move the story forward, let alone finish it!

So much can happen in life that the chances of going all the way are scarce if he continues at this pace.
 
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