Tsugumi

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I've been having a bug in v9Bj no mod, but I saw it in older versions too:
Sometimes during combat, you can only target one guy with attack, sex skill... Even if more are present. From memory, it's always the 2nd guy from the bottom (I could be wrong with that).
It doesn't happen often enough to be game breaking though. It's just random on some trash fights.

Anyone else has seen that?
Sounds like a case of "I forgot to move my mouse pointer away from that spot" - the game (or maybe the engine as a whole)...does something I am not tech savvy enough to explain. It basically prioritizes the mouse pointer over, say, keyboard buttons, and when you hover the pointer over a selectable area (e.g., skill buttons or enemy portraits) keyboard navigation becomes useless until you move the pointer to a spot with nothing to click.
 

tetrayrok

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Sounds like a case of "I forgot to move my mouse pointer away from that spot" - the game (or maybe the engine as a whole)...does something I am not tech savvy enough to explain. It basically prioritizes the mouse pointer over, say, keyboard buttons, and when you hover the pointer over a selectable area (e.g., skill buttons or enemy portraits) keyboard navigation becomes useless until you move the pointer to a spot with nothing to click.
One rule of bug fixing. If you can't provide any directions in reproducing the bug, no one is going to waste their time trying to reproduce the bug to help you fix it here. No one is getting paid :(
 

dsp0

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Maybe if I find the time, I will look to make a more in depth guide about Pure Prisoner Mode run.

Now for some basic stuff that I like to do (reminder, that is only meant for Pure Run): Never ever fight against guards. Get the +10 Agi and +10 Dex Acc early (you can even get them Day 1, makes battles on the 1st Floor easy, since you basically get Stats for 4 Levels). Don't fight in the Bar. Don't increase Order, unless it is about to hit 0, to make more money (as long as your Order doesn't go below 20 you should be fine). Don't fight above 25% Fatique, it's a risk you don't need to take. Don't use Taunt or Flaunt, unless it is really necassary. Get the Problem solving Edicts always ASAP (I tend to go for the expensive ones there but sometimes it depends). On the 2nd Floor get stuff like Skewer, Cleave and Healing Thoughts. Rouges are a High Prio Target, eliminate them as quickly as possible. Same goes for Lizardmen on the 4th Floor.
Interesting, how do you avoid fighting above 25% fatigue? Do you get many control edicts? If I recall once I get to lvl 2 I have to go over 25% fatigue to maintain order for the day.
 

Skaldy

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Interesting, how do you avoid fighting above 25% fatigue? Do you get many control edicts? If I recall once I get to lvl 2 I have to go over 25% fatigue to maintain order for the day.
From all my experiments i learned from this game starting from 0 to day 40, First floor is the most important part of the game you can shape your prison. It is good idea to spend good amount of time there and build up good foundation for Karryn and prison
 

Neriel

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Interesting, how do you avoid fighting above 25% fatigue? Do you get many control edicts? If I recall once I get to lvl 2 I have to go over 25% fatigue to maintain order for the day.
Well. On Level 1 I get Repair Kitchen once my Order is getting low. So that is +2.
On Level 2 I get, not in specific order: Basic Guard Training +1, Hire Cooks +1, Train Anti-Goblin Squads +2. So that is +6 now overall.
Also depending on how well/bad the run goes stuff like Repair Visitor Center +2, Standard Equipment +1 and Better Guard Meals +1 are an Option.
But I wouldn't take Hire Chef and Bulk Food Supplier. They cost too much Upkeep and give little Control in return.
 
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hakarlman

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what are the conditions from which you can flee a battle? her fatigue is 25% and it's on the hardest difficulty.

edit: u cant tactical retreat flee on prisoner difficulty, that's dumb.
 

madchef

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The game has Titles that are exactly for that.
Name one Title awarded for playing this porn game as if it is absolutely not a porn game... And I will name several dozens of unambiguously lewd titles and several hundreds of slutty passives. Goblin Waste Basket, Nerd Cum Tissue, Guards 24/7 Maid, Abnormal Virgin, Scandalous Idol, Home is where the Bathroom Is, Ass Kisser, Blowjob Queen, Cum Guzzler, Whorish Pussy Annoyingly Begging to be Seen, Deepthroats without Being Asked, One Woman Orgasm Show, Asspussy Black Hole........... The list looks like the back catalogue of a Max Hardcore Studios. Is there one prim and proper title, like Hasn't Orgasmed in 120 Days, Never touched a Cock? Is there?

If you are a completionists, there you have a reason. If you have seen all lewd content and want a challenge, playing the game on the hardest diff and remaining pure, there you have another one.
Should walking into a restaurant with a booked table, looking through the menu and telling the wait you're not hungry and don't want anything to eat or drink, but still want to enjoy the experience of being a restaurant customer be considered some sort of an achievement? Or being mildly weird?

Is title hunting the only reason for playing games in general, not just porn? I don't know, back in the day of sweaty arcade parlours you had only a high score record which you could sign with a 3-letter initial. Yet, kids were glued to those machines, generally playing the games utilizing one, maybe two winning strategies. You couldn't play Popeye however you wanted.

Others just enjoy seeing a women beating up horny dudes. Some enjoy the fact, that the Sex stuff could happen but you don't force it.
Sure, but this title will ultimately not satisfy their appetites. The main theme is a stuck up female professional becoming a cock-crazed slut. It's not a fem-dom game, or a beat them up with tits, really. The sex stuff will (not can) eventually happen. And it's been designed that way from Day 1. The devs work their asses off designing and drawing not different types of swords and axes but varieties of dicks and cumstains and openly sexualized side jobs, not epic battlegrounds. To complain that the game is unbalanced because sex is unavoidable in such a XXX-class porn product is really amazing. There are so many great other games out there where sex is not only avoidable but completely absent. This one obviously isn't. A porn game and not much else. I just can't imagine consuming porn for any other reason than substituted, voyeuristic sexual gratification. So yes, I will be going down that one way street, every single time I'm watching, reading or playing porn. I tried to watch a porn movie once the other way around, skipping the sex scenes and watching the opening scenes and in-between dialogs carefully. Emmy-worthy performances these weren't...
 
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Is there one prim and proper title, like Hasn't Orgasmed in 120 Days, Never touched a Cock? Is there?
Hate to be that guy but technically there are several that fit the bill but they're mostly for doing a good job as a warden. You're definitely not wrong though since those titles are massively overwhelmed by the tidal wave of erotic passives and titles. On top of that, there are no 'clean' passives, only 'clean' titles and that is purely by technicality of not being related to eroticism. Heavy emphasis on 'technicality'. The only title that I can think of that has to do with Karryn's purity is Emperor's Secretary iirc.

Aside from that, you're spot-on.

As for why some people want to play this game straight as though it isn't a porn title? I'd reckon it's the challenge of it, trying to remain a virgin for the longest time in a setting where it's expected that you lose your virginity very quickly or something like that. It's a fun thing to do, at least for me anyways since there's always the possibility of an ending for a pure run.
 
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bouli0

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Sounds like a case of "I forgot to move my mouse pointer away from that spot" [...]
That could well be it! Thanks.

One rule of bug fixing. If you can't provide any directions in reproducing the bug, no one is going to waste their time trying to reproduce the bug to help you fix it here. No one is getting paid :(
Good point. I thought I'd ask away though as I couldn't reproduce with a save. Hopefully it's just an issue with my keyboard-chair interface :D
 

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Name one Title awarded for playing this porn game as if it is absolutely not a porn game... And I will name several dozens of unambiguously lewd titles and several hundreds of slutty passives. Goblin Waste Basket, Nerd Cum Tissue, Guards 24/7 Maid, Abnormal Virgin, Scandalous Idol, Home is where the Bathroom Is, Ass Kisser, Blowjob Queen, Cum Guzzler, Whorish Pussy Annoyingly Begging to be Seen, Deepthroats without Being Asked, One Woman Orgasm Show, Asspussy Black Hole........... The list looks like the back catalogue of a Max Hardcore Studios. Is there one prim and proper title, like Hasn't Orgasmed in 120 Days, Never touched a Cock? Is there?
Like the Title you get, for getting all Hero Books, that you only can get, if you have low Slut Level? Yes, there are much more Titles, that are Slut focused... duh... it's a Porn Game. Doesn't change the fact, that there are some, that are not Slut related or even Pure related. As much as you want to cry about it, doesn't change the fact.



Should walking into a restaurant with a booked table, looking through the menu and telling the wait you're not hungry and don't want anything to eat or drink, but still want to enjoy the experience of being a restaurant customer be considered some sort of an achievement? Or being mildly weird?
What a terrible analogy. You go to a restaurant to eat and drink. You play a Game to... surprise, play a Game and have fun (whatever the person version of fun is). And the Game gives me cleary the Option to play it Pure. It's like playing GTA and I drive around one day, killing the entire town and have a War with the Police and the next day, I am driving around following the traffic rules. These are things I can do, inside this game. Nothing weird about it.


Is title hunting the only reason for playing games in general, not just porn? I don't know, back in the day of sweaty arcade parlours you had only a high score record which you could sign with a 3-letter initial. Yet, kids were glued to those machines, generally playing the games utilizing one, maybe two winning strategies. You couldn't play Popeye however you wanted.
Do I now seriously have to explain to you, that there are people that love Achievement hunting? Also once again, bad analogy. You are comparing completionists with people that compete against each other for high scores. That has literally nothing to do with each other.




Sure, but this title will ultimately not satisfy their appetites. The main theme is a stuck up female professional becoming a cock-crazed slut. It's not a fem-dom game, or a beat them up with tits, really. The sex stuff will (not can) eventually happen. And it's been designed that way from Day 1. The devs work their asses off designing and drawing not different types of swords and axes but varieties of dicks and cumstains and openly sexualized side jobs, not epic battlegrounds. To complain that the game is unbalanced because sex is unavoidable in such a XXX-class porn product is really amazing. There are so many great other games out there where sex is not only avoidable but completely absent. This one obviously isn't. A porn game and not much else. I just can't imagine consuming porn for any other reason than substituted, voyeuristic sexual gratification. So yes, I will be going down that one way street, every single time I'm watching, reading or playing porn. I tried to watch a porn movie once the other way around, skipping the sex scenes and watching the opening scenes and in-between dialogs carefully. Emmy-worthy performances these weren't...

It satisifies me and it's clear, that I am not the only one. Also no, the Sex stuff will not happen, if a Player doesn't want to. The Game is 98% finished. People can play it Pure through it, on the hardest difficulty. You seriously believe, the Dev will make it so, that with the final 2% it will be impossible to remain Pure, even on easy? Also yes, the Dev worked there asses of, in implemeting stuff that is for a Fighter Build. There are a lot of Edicts, that are Fighter focused, that have 0 do to with Sluts. Or please explain, how is the Skewer Skill Slut related, I am really curious. Same goes for all the Dialoge, that you get, if you remain Pure. Why would the Dev bother, to write all this Dialoge, that you only see, if she is Pure? Sex is avoidable, so dunno why somebody should complain about it. And don't compare Movies with Games... once again bad analogy. But hey, I am happy, that you play it the way you want. So let the others do the same and stop having an existential crisis, when you find out, that there are people that do different things compared to you.
 
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chokosi

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wait this game has animations? even simple ones?

iv seen signature image of people here that has karryns breast bouncing
 

madchef

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What a terrible analogy. You go to a restaurant to eat and drink. You play a Game to... surprise, play a Game.
Terrible indeed, if you twist it like that. But it's not a Game, it's a Porn Game Duh! Why do you play a porn game? Surprise me.

And the Game gives me cleary the Option to play it Pure.
Sure, kinda sorta. Is this option as rich and exciting as the porn route? Do you get to see detailed GC for all those fighter moves? Do you see Karryn skewering 3 enemies at once with her halberd in all the gory detail the same way you see her skewered by 3 dicks at once in general battle scene, guard battle scene, lv 3 defeat scene, bar sex scene, lv 4 defeat scene, guard defeat scene... Is it really that hard to see this a porn duh! game balanced (perverted is a better word) in a porn way? Sure, you can try to play it pure, just like you can try to watch a porn movie as a 'pure' film and concentrate on interior designs or cars the actors drive. Why would they care about the cars if the film is about fucking, you might ask. Is it really that hard to see that Karryn's initial purity is a necessary establishing shot for the corruption fantasy to work? She starts pure but is not supposed to stay pure and the goal of the game is not about her staying pure, despite several chaste achievements thrown in to a list of hundreds of titles and passives only a porn star will be unapologetically proud of. The game starts with a stark naked woman passing the gates of a prison full of obscure male gazes. Every new game started starts with an explanation of what it is about, with the the background picture of the smiling Warden laying on the floor covered in semen...

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The sex stuff has already happened before you as a player made any decision, other than running a porn game. You mind has been defiled. Duh!

So yes, please be more serious in justifying playing a porn game in a non-porn manner. One or two pointless achievements in the sea of 100+ pointless achievements won't cut it. I know what sort of reward I am looking for in a porn (key word, do not conveniently omit it) game. It definitely isn't a line of text next to a bronze, silver or gold medal/icon.
 

War1926

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MY major complaint with this game is that is pretty much Impossible in normal or hard difficulty, either that or the first few days U won't be doing much progress or any at all.
 
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Neriel

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Terrible indeed, if you twist it like that. But it's not a Game, it's a Porn Game Duh! Why do you play a porn game? Surprise me.
The same reason, I play any game. To have fun. Just happens to be that way, that this Porn Game is very unique, that it is even fun, without the Porn stuff. But that goes over your head, since you see Porn, and that means, this game has only Porn.



Sure, kinda sorta. Is this option as rich and exciting as the porn route? Do you get to see detailed GC for all those fighter moves? Do you see Karryn skewering 3 enemies at once with her halberd in all the gory detail the same way you see her skewered by 3 dicks at once in general battle scene, guard battle scene, lv 3 defeat scene, bar sex scene, lv 4 defeat scene, guard defeat scene...
Dunno how often this needs to be said. But here we go again. Yes, it is a Porn Game and as such, yes, the main content of the Game is Porn. Congrats. But for some people the challenge alone, as an example, to fight the odds and "win" by remaining Pure is fun. It is not about, if the game is more detailed in that aspect. So hard to understand?

Sure, you can try to play it pure, just like you can try to watch a porn movie as a 'pure' film and concentrate on interior designs or cars the actors drive. Why would they care about the cars if the film is about fucking, you might ask.
I am asking myself, what your obsession is, with comparing a Game, with a Movie. A Movie has one way it will go. Always. That is it. You watch it or you don't. And no matter how often you will watch it, it will stay the same. A Game can give you many ways to play it. This is one, that gives you Options. You only like the Porn Route? That's fine. Just the same, if people want to try other stuff, since the game allows it.


She starts pure but is not supposed to stay pure and the goal of the game is not about her staying pure
Let me stop you right there. The Goal of the game is to put down a Rioting Prison. How that is done, that is up to you.


So yes, please be more serious in justifying playing a porn game in a non-porn manner. One or two pointless achievements in the sea of 100+ pointless achievements won't cut it. I know what sort of reward I am looking for in a porn (key word, do not conveniently omit it) game. It definitely isn't a line of text next to a bronze, silver or gold medal/icon.
And there is your Problem. Yes, you know what you want out of this game. But here you are trying to tell me and others, what we should get out of this game. Why? Why are you so hell-bent on telling others, how they should enjoy this game?

But hey, in the end, I am happy for you, that you enjoy the game how you want. And if you don't feel the same for others, well I can live with that. So have a nice day. Until we argue again.
 

hakarlman

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weird, i bought the heart jewelry, money went from 2000g to 0, and control loss went from 7 to -19??? why? ... edit: its a visual bug
 
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