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Destriss

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I may give clear answer.

Making "quality" porn game is irrational business model. By making shitty games you get much more money with much less effort. And it always will be this way. There is no evolution in porn niche. Today xxx games are as shitty as they was 30 years before. They using exactly the some cliche deck as it was on ZX Spectrum xxx games.
I can give you some designers who don't make shitty games. Like Remtairy/Sakura game.

Games that aren't porn are also shit. I can also give you some AAA rated games that are shit, like Fallout76.

You should also know that a lot of porn games are made by amateurs so it doesn't help the quality.

In the end you classify porn games in = shit, whereas there are creators who make very good games, even though the goal is to masturbate. Because despite everything there's a story, a background, a gameplay.

You make a generalization, a truth, when it's totally false. You forget, especially on this forum, that the creators live from the gifts of the players, if a game is shitty, they don't give, if they don't give, the creator doesn't continue.

So in the end, the games that come out are not shitty, they are for a certain community of players who make the creator live.

The games are not shitty but just don't meet your expectations.

Then yes, there are people who make shit, but like I said, it's also about normal games.

And so big question, you say that porn games are shit, so you're gonna make shit, so if you are aware of making shit, why do you make a game ?

I've already played games by people like you, who assumed that they were not talented, I played their first one, of course, it's not great but you could feel that they tried to do their best, in the end these people continued and their games are better.
 
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Ambitious, very Ambitious. Im looking forward to see the stable build and more content. I dont understand the Hate on the first Pages. Lets wait and See. This is still very, very Early. We are getting all this for Free Guys. Basically others Pay for us and we enjoy the full Fun too. :) Lets give them more time and hope, they keep enjoying there own game and it will become something great :) Lets have some Hope
 
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gremlin_shaman

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I can give you some designers who don't make shitty games. Like Remtairy/Sakura game.
What so exciting about them? Standard unimaginative grindo out of reality cliche hentay.

I've already played games by people like you, who assumed that they were not talented, I played their first one, of course, it's not great but you could feel that they tried to do their best, in the end these people continued and their games are better.
In the 'RPG Maker' map design i'm much more talented then Remitary. This didn't get me money or popularity by the way.
 
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Destriss

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What so exciting about them? Standard unimaginative grindo out of reality cliche hentay.



In the 'RPG Maker' map design i'm much more talented then Remitary. This didn't get me money or popularity by the way.
That's good, already you're only using the elements of my argument that suits you.

Because video games in general aren't cliché? Like being the good guy who saves the world from the bad guys? Let's see, you're a big AAA fan, Assassin's creed the good assassins against the evil Templars.... Skyrim, classic RPG, sandbox, fallout, rpg post-apo, the only thing that was good was morality, which disappeared with fallout 4.

Let's take the latest remtairy game, Karryn's quest, how is that standard or cliché? We have a female protagonist who is going to manage a prison, already gameplay management, since you can issue edicts that can improve the prison, and improve yourself, you can make a game by being a virgin or being a slut, the sex system is only based on combat, there is not a game that exists that bases all its porn on combat, generally it bases it partly on combat.

Complete minigames that have a totally different "fight" system than the rest of the game.

Can you explain to me how this is standard and cliché compared to other porn and non-porn games?

You may be stronger in one area, but he's probably stronger than you in other areas.
You're saying your skills aren't doing you any good? Then you explain me the success of Remtairy ? 1568 patrons, the smallest donation is 2 dollars, so we can imagine that he earns for his games more than 3000 dollars minimum, so his work makes him earn as much as a couple with a decent job.

Because he too has skills. And he makes money.

You say you have skills too, just work, not wait for it to fall from the sky and say I'm shit, the current business system sucks and is bad for me.

Yes there are some bad games in the porn world, just like there are good games, stop making generalities.
 

gremlin_shaman

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That's good, already you're only using the elements of my argument that suits you.

Because video games in general aren't cliché? Like being the good guy who saves the world from the bad guys? Let's see, you're a big AAA fan, Assassin's creed the good assassins against the evil Templars.... Skyrim, classic RPG, sandbox, fallout, rpg post-apo, the only thing that was good was morality, which disappeared with fallout 4.
Yes, there is shitty AAA games... but what this prove? :)

P.S. First Assassasin, Dagger/Morro/Obli, Fallout 1-3, damn even much humble games like 'Rayman II' or Jak -- each single of them bring more innovation in the game industry then all adult games niche.

Then you explain me the success of Remtairy ?
Explain me the success of hamburger? :) We European people didn't understand it.

upd. You didn't distinct different concepts like: quality, critique rating and popularity. So, you are not mature enough for understanding what I wrote in the first message. :)
 
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Destriss

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Yes, there is shitty AAA games... but what this prove? :)

P.S. First Assassasin, Dagger/Morro/Obli, Fallout 1-3, damn even much humble games like 'Rayman II' or Jak -- each single of them bring more innovation in the game industry then all adult games niche.
Yeah, well, just take the point you're interested in and sweep out the ones you don't like.

"but what this prove?" That you don't necessarily have to be AAA to be a good game. (because you were arguing that the only goal in life for porn game developers was to go to AAA studios)

Porn or no porn.

The world of porn games is like the world of normal games.

Except that porn can't be for everyone.

So I don't see why it's a problem for porn game developers with 20 years of experience to stay in this field and try to make good porn games (which exist, otherwise Remtairy couldn't make a living from what he does) and also who like to make porn games.

and you can't compare a porn game to a normal game that's already basic ....

Why can't I? Already the audience, you can't advertise on traditional media, especially considering what we can find.

The majority of people are alone or in small groups( porn ), it's not studios of 100 people or several thousands working all over the world, so the production time is not the same.
 

cesid

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well indeed some AAA-ish games can be nice, like "Wild Life" level or something. But this is very hard to make , mostly on team side (require big team, well organised) and money.
i honestly not sure if starting a big ambitious game like this directly is a good idea. others devs of same level usually make alternative smaller games as revenue helper.
but, i guess we see with time...
They don't need many rpg stats or crafting stuff, just some interactivity and exploration. Most of the games are confined in small places (for the example the still good House Party) or exploration is similar to games like Myst (you move in static scenes).
An AAA game about strippers doesn't require a huge area to explore, just a small red light zone with a couple of club, hotel etc + stripping animation and some physics like X-story production. It is strange how games like Dreamstripper have just clothes that vanish or games like Illusion (with many GB of hard disk) that have some limited slide mechanic lack stripping animations.

EA is a AAA company and all their games are shit
Battle for Middle Earth was cute. EA sometimes can make nice games, but their purpose is just to buy franchises to let them die so they can sell subpar stuff because no competitors.
 

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Interesting. I had to extract it every time to play it. Just full of bugs though. An odd way to open the club using the telephone at reception. Look forward to the update and better stability. This is not even a beta version.
 

Rebby

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I was a bit worried when i started up the first time. Everyone was a black mannequin.
But I took the graphics down a notch and it worked out fine.

I like the idea of a porn management game in 3D, but I'm pretty sure it will hamper development quite a bit
 
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Mr_SID133

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I was a bit worried when i started up the first time. Everyone was a black mannequin.
But I took the graphics down a notch and it worked out fine.

I like the idea of a porn management game in 3D, but I'm pretty sure it will hamper development quite a bit
I have the same problem of the non-textured characters, so you lowered the graphics to the lowest?
 

poiuzxcklj

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have peole not figured this out yet? You can create something that's not even a demo, but a simple tech demo with animations, and good looking models, put it on Patreon, and make thousands of dollars a month. Seriously, this is turning into a big scam. Some of these tech demos have been going for years and still haven't made an actual game that's playable aside from running around and doing a few things.

Guys, it's a scam. Think about it. Throw a few things together in Unreal Engine, put it on Patreon, rack in the dough. If you could do it, would you?

My guess is the people doing this is that this is all they can do. They don't have the actual dev skills to go further than what we're seeing currently.
 

poiuzxcklj

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What makes you think they aren't already doing something in this field? Doing porn games allows:

a) Exploring their sexuality (whatever it is), or sharing their sexual interests with others
b) Making additional income
c) doing the above two and staying anonymous.

I think it's a dream to have coding skills and have the creativity to make a porn game. Also with the amount of patreons that people can get, you really make money and be your own boss.
they are doing it for the MONEY. Wake up.

let me add, some or probably A LOT of the people making these are doing it as side gigs. They are probably already working in the industry and taking what they are learning and doing there and trying to make some extra on the side. I don't blame them. But, they and a lot of people here are realizing, they are stringing people along/being strung along. Your $5 or $10 a month will never translate into an actual game.
 
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I think it's a tech demo concerning to various mechanics and how all mixed up within a gameplay(?). A bait to hook some support (not blaming about this, you must show your product waiting for a reaction), but this game coul be on a so early stage to wait that.
 

poiuzxcklj

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I think it's a tech demo concerning to various mechanics and how all mixed up within a gameplay(?). A bait to hook some support (not blaming about this, you must show your product waiting for a reaction), but this game coul be on a so early stage to wait that.
And I'm kind of thinking it's ridiculous to ask people to support something that shows ZERO semblance of what's being promised. These guys are asking for money and have barely anything to show for it. It's like saying "Hey, give me a monthly fee for something THAT MIGHT come out in a few years".

It's not right.
 
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