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The whole update felt like the dev was trying to minimize the affinity between MC and the rest of royal family as much as possible. That stupid sentence about how if it wasn't for the King he would have been left in an orphanage was like cherry on top xD Where did this even come from? His "father" and Arnord were with his mother when he was born.
- Feb 23, 2022
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I'll just list a few lines in this update to prove my point:
(Before that, like I've mentioned in my original post, the most significant change is that there isn't any mention of family names like father, aunt, and sister. This alone is already a huge red flag since the previous content has a lot of them)
1. When MC talks about Catherine and Jane: "If I play my cards right, perhaps I could even marry one of them someday. Or if I am lucky maybe even both of them!" This is indeed a weak argument, but still, there isn't any concern of incest in MC's mind in this line.
2. When MC talks about his father/The King: "The King might have been a dick to me, but if it wasn't for him, I would have been raised in some poor orphanage or worst-case scenario, dead." Mind you, in the previous content, The King clearly loved MC's mother the most, and if he was indeed the King's bastard son, why would this thought come into his mind?
3. When MC visited the unconscious King: "In fact, my return was prompted by concerns over the kingdom under Henry's rule. Don't worry, I am not here to usurp your son's throne. I am just here to guide him." This is for me the most alarming line that indicates the shift in tone. If MC were indeed the King's bastard son, why would he call his half-brother "your son" instead of simply Henry, especially when there's an obvious animosity between these two?
4. When Sir Arnold discusses Henry's obsession with land expansion, he says "Henry wants to become like William. He says the eastern expansion will be a gift to William, when he wakes. Henry believes William would be proud of him." Notice he no longer refers to the King as "your father" like he did in previous content. In case you forget, there is a scene in previous content where Sir Arnold warns the King not to have such a dangerous thought when the latter suspects MC not being his biological son, and defends the loyalty of MC's mother towards The King. As someone who strongly believes MC's kinship with the King, why wouldn't he call the King MC's father in this update?
I might be wrong and overthink this and the game might just stay incest, but still these lines create a lot of confusion that needs to be addressed. Also your claim about the game never really depends on incest is just wrong. The premise of the whole game is about how MC as a bastard son manages to get all the women (relatives or not) on his side and become the true king. Incest is the core element in this game, because without this the game is just the usual story of the common person ascending into the role of the destined hero/leader/king. Without incest, a lot of previous content wouldn't make sense, such as MC being an absolute playboy without a worry in the world. So when the new content displays a drop of familial affinity between MC and other parties concerned, people are bound to suspect the shift in tone.
- Oct 20, 2019
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Another game sanitized/censored to comply with puritan Patreon trash. Kept this on my watchlist but removing it now. Hope Patreon pays you enough for the soul of the game you killed, dev.
This story turned retarded.. 3 year passes.. all that fucking time he never tried to escape.. he appears to to be free why the fuck would he not have gone home? The author skips everything making the story retarded! No book would sell with such a stupid story! It just makes the MC a fucking retard to stupid to try to escape and go home!
I thought this was going to be a good story.. MC learns that brother would make a bad king.. he would prove himself and be better and his brother would be the snake attempting to betray the king. Instead it turned stupid.
Plot: 1/5 (became garbage and makes MC a damn retard)
Sound: 1/5 (not even background music)
Sex: 2/5 (almost none and the few there is.. is that type of cheap ass short ass sex scenes you find in cheap puzzle games)
Art: 2/5 (average and no variety the bodies and tits all look the same with just different hair styles and color)
Rating: 1.5 (being generous)
After that experience and he just waits the fuck around for 3 years to go back home this game is ruined by an awfully written story. I've deleted this game and I hate that I had to start over because old save did not work to find out I just wasted hours of my time to find the game went to complete and utter shit after prince was kidnapped. It use to have a story but you can't call it a story after the kidnapping.
I thought this was going to be a good story.. MC learns that brother would make a bad king.. he would prove himself and be better and his brother would be the snake attempting to betray the king. Instead it turned stupid.
Plot: 1/5 (became garbage and makes MC a damn retard)
Sound: 1/5 (not even background music)
Sex: 2/5 (almost none and the few there is.. is that type of cheap ass short ass sex scenes you find in cheap puzzle games)
Art: 2/5 (average and no variety the bodies and tits all look the same with just different hair styles and color)
Rating: 1.5 (being generous)
After that experience and he just waits the fuck around for 3 years to go back home this game is ruined by an awfully written story. I've deleted this game and I hate that I had to start over because old save did not work to find out I just wasted hours of my time to find the game went to complete and utter shit after prince was kidnapped. It use to have a story but you can't call it a story after the kidnapping.
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- Apr 5, 2020
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OK so I played 4.0 Lite version and I am not sure about what to feel with the new sudden changes. I don't care much about the incest or stepcest switch, but the one that got me thinking was the change from a fun lighthearted tale to a somewhat serious turn.
One thing that almost disappeared entirely after the kidnapping plot twist was MC's original personality. Sure the younger MC was similar to a lot of horny MCs in NSFW games but that MC was better because he was not a total wimp, he was a fun cheeky brat with the need to prove himself and a competition against Henry. That was what made him better than your average horny young adult MC.
After the kidnapping and slave plot, he became... idk soulless? And I don't mean it's PTSD soulless but literally his personality was empty. Sometimes he's empty, sometimes he acts like a quiet badass, sometimes he's silly and horny. He became inconsistent.
I am not as pissed off as most people, which is understandable, especially their disappointment with the incest switch is similar to NTR switch mid-game that happens in many NSFW games. Personally I'm a bit sad if Cath isn't MC's real aunt.
Anyway I'm mostly disappointed in the change of direction and mood. The previous plot was fun, it was silly and funny, but it still had a lot of brains to it.
The old MC had personality. He was horny but not a wimp, he was immature but had real goals. As the player, you really wanted him get better, prove himself to the King and beat Henry while banging hot chicks along the way. That was fun, he was a fun MC.
Still interested in the way the plot goes though. It's just a pity because the original direction was so much fun.
One thing that almost disappeared entirely after the kidnapping plot twist was MC's original personality. Sure the younger MC was similar to a lot of horny MCs in NSFW games but that MC was better because he was not a total wimp, he was a fun cheeky brat with the need to prove himself and a competition against Henry. That was what made him better than your average horny young adult MC.
After the kidnapping and slave plot, he became... idk soulless? And I don't mean it's PTSD soulless but literally his personality was empty. Sometimes he's empty, sometimes he acts like a quiet badass, sometimes he's silly and horny. He became inconsistent.
I am not as pissed off as most people, which is understandable, especially their disappointment with the incest switch is similar to NTR switch mid-game that happens in many NSFW games. Personally I'm a bit sad if Cath isn't MC's real aunt.
Anyway I'm mostly disappointed in the change of direction and mood. The previous plot was fun, it was silly and funny, but it still had a lot of brains to it.
The old MC had personality. He was horny but not a wimp, he was immature but had real goals. As the player, you really wanted him get better, prove himself to the King and beat Henry while banging hot chicks along the way. That was fun, he was a fun MC.
Still interested in the way the plot goes though. It's just a pity because the original direction was so much fun.
- Apr 5, 2020
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Very good points. I forgot most of their relationships in the early game so I missed out some of the familial changes in the new storyline after the kidnapping. Good summary, thanks. Also, the way the MC is received back in the royal community left much to be desired.
The plot after the kidnapping makes me sad honestly, this was one of my favourite devs and we need more good 2D devs... but this change felt underwhelming and unexpected considering what the game proposed itself at the beginning.
Alright, got some confirmation from the devs themselves.
So I texted them and asked for some clarity on these changes. I also asked for their consent to post their message here.
"I cannot comment on other relationships, but yes, the MC is the bastard son of the King and Henry's brother. Without that, the whole plot wouldn't make any sense. Regarding your question about why the MC refers to Henry as "your son" while talking to the king in the new update, it's important to remember that the game has always made it clear that the MC was never treated as an equal for obvious reasons. The MC was a bastard, and everyone knows that bastards were looked down upon during that period.
From the queen's perspective, imagine your husband having an affair and fathering a child with another woman. What kind of treatment would you expect from her and others? Even though the MC was family, he was never truly treated like one. The MC always yearned for acceptance from his people, for real friends who wouldn't care if he was a prince or not. He found that in the village where no one knew who he was, and they treated him like a normal person. He liked what he had there.
Now, the MC no longer craves acceptance from his people. He is so disgusted with Henry that he doesn't even want to be associated with him, which is why he refers to Henry as "your son." The MC is a different person now, with changed ambitions. He is a broken man in need of a lot of healing. The kidnapping and slavery broke him from the inside and left deep scars. After his escape, he ended up in a village, tired of the life he had lived. He was depressed and had no intention of returning to his home where he was treated poorly. That was until he heard about the civil war, prompting him to return to prevent these wars. The MC is not selfish anymore, he actually cares about other too now.
The king was a bad father, and because of that, both the MC and Henry turned out to be flawed. Yes, I included Henry because in future updates, you'll learn why Henry is the way he is.
I may not have been active on F95zone for the past few updates since I lost control of my own game there, but I do occasionally read some comments. I'm quite surprised that people misunderstood the MC's relationship with the king. Maybe it's my fault for not making it clear enough. However, I didn't receive any queries or complaints from my patrons regarding these topics. In fact, the latest update was very well received.
I may replace a few words to remove this confusion while still showing the emotions the MC bears towards Henry and the king. I urge my audience to have some patience and faith in me. A good story with character development has always been my first priority. Throughout my development journey so far, I have learned that I cannot satisfy everyone. One of the reasons we release the "free" version, which is one update behind the latest one, is to allow the audience to try the game out for themselves. If they like it, they can choose to support us. If they don't like it, they don't have to spend a single dime on us. I am all ears for constructive criticism. You can always text me on Patreon or even in my Discord channel. However, criticizing us for things that we don't really have control over, like our update schedule or for following Patreon guidelines, is a bit unfair.
Anyway, I hope I have cleared the confusion regarding the king's relationship with the MC."
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- Aug 28, 2019
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Well I'm not going to kill the story yet as I see we are in the beginning stages.
But what I will say is the MC and Catherine should have sex as soon as possible
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No need for a slow buildup here with blowjobs or titjobs as she clearly wants a kid so let her have it.
But what I will say is the MC and Catherine should have sex as soon as possible
.No need for a slow buildup here with blowjobs or titjobs as she clearly wants a kid so let her have it.
- Apr 5, 2020
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Thanks for DMing them for the explanation. That makes sense but I think they did a pretty poor job at showing the changes in the story. Especially after the escape, MC was downright silent all of a sudden. That was a good phase to explain some of his thought processes on why he didn't return right away.
And the feeling of belonging in the village also wasn't obvious at all, especially his somewhat one-sided friendship with his new friend. Nothing says "I feel accepted here", mostly it's just "This is a good place to hide and get by, otherwise I don't care about the people with me here."
I understand that the shift to the "silent type" is a way to show that MC has both matured yet traumatized from his experience. But showing a bit of his old cheerful side wouldn't take away from this, just to show why he loves his new home than his previous royal life. Especially since the "silence" took away his personality, more than it does showing that he has matured.
I'm sad that RoyalFantasy has been pushed away by to the reactions on this thread, but I do hope they're reading some of the more matured feedback here and give them some thought.
- Apr 5, 2020
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And I don't think this game is a cashgrab. They're making around $200-$300 a month. That income is far from a cashgrab. That's "low-mid tier undersupported" level of Patreon income. Most of those easy quick cashgrab devs, especially the ones with AI lately with barely any plot, get at least double that amount easily with 1/5 of the content.
Good luck RoyalFantasy, you can't satisfy everyone. Do what you and what supporters think is best.
Good luck RoyalFantasy, you can't satisfy everyone. Do what you and what supporters think is best.
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You are right that we haven't explained why the MC likes his new life. However, it's not that we didn't want to explain it; we just haven't reached the event that addresses this. Without giving too many spoilers, the MC will explain his feelings during the event where Arnold tells him about his mother. But now I think maybe we should have included this event in v0.4. However, we already had enough events, and the last bathing hall event seemed like a perfect place to end this update. Additionally, I believe I did give a small indication that the MC liked his life in the village during the event where he talks to the king. He mentions that once his mission is over, he will return to the village where people actually care about him.
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- Apr 21, 2022
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Royal Fantasy is there a reason why Mc is calling his Aunt by his name or is it just because of the patreon rules and stuff.Akso you guys should also make a subscribestar account as a backup you never know when patreon does their shit happened to a lot of Dev's who didn't do anything.
Okay serious question, have you ever called someone you're related to, that isn't in a direct line, i.e. mother, grandmother, father grandfather, your aunt?
Hell, I've heard people call their parents by their first name. The alternative just feels like a hamfisted way of shouting that it's incest porn, á la, "What are you doing stepbro?"
The reality here is that incest in writing is a careful observation of the tension between not wanting the loss of a simple, dependable and pure relationship and the thrill of taboo and passion. There is a real gamble for the chance to have it all or losing it all, especially when you spin that off into how that relationship would affect others.
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I have never I don't know about you man.Everyone I know calls their Aunt either "Auntie" or Aunt with whatever their name is as for people who call their parents by name I have only seen that happened where the relationship ship is bad and even then they don't call the parent by their name in front of them only behind their backs lol.So I could understand that but the relationship isn't bad with the Aunt at all.As for siblings you call them by the name duh I never said anything about the siblings.Yet a lot of times siblings do call their elder sibling with big brother or sister thing but not always. So to answer your question from where I am people don't call their family members who are much older than them by the name.
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What an awful explanation and reasons why.
1. He had people he cared about at the castle. He had a friend and his aunt for example. (so it's a garbage explanation why he did not return after escaping)
2. He was starting to take concern about the people of the kingdom with his decisions
3. He realized his brother would be bad for the kingdom killing off those villagers for no reason
So he would of wanted to return but than he just gets kidnapped and escapes and says fuck his fuck and friend. Fuck the people. This is so damn stupid and shallow that it would be rejected by any authors manager or producer. He would of raced back home to let his aunt and friend know that he is still alive! The plot here is so damn shallow and does not even explain what he went through before escaping. This is the worst cop out of a story ever.
This story is NOT believable to make it believable he would of had to HATE his life at the castle but he had no real reason to.
1. He had a best friend
2. He had his Aunt
3. He had the one that started to train him to learn the position of a king
So he gets kidnapped and escape and he is just going to let the ones he love about believe he is dead and just fuck them he doesn't care.. That is not a broken man that is a total fucking ASSHOLE! He was a pervert but he was not a total damn asshole! Anyone that knows their is family that believes them dead and they escape or get rescued are going to let them know he is OK! So the whole damn story is not believable ruining the story. You want to write a story like this than their can't be an aunt he likes and wanted to marry! He can't have a best friend!
1. He had a best friend
2. He had his Aunt
3. He had the one that started to train him to learn the position of a king
So he gets kidnapped and escape and he is just going to let the ones he love about believe he is dead and just fuck them he doesn't care.. That is not a broken man that is a total fucking ASSHOLE! He was a pervert but he was not a total damn asshole! Anyone that knows their is family that believes them dead and they escape or get rescued are going to let them know he is OK! So the whole damn story is not believable ruining the story. You want to write a story like this than their can't be an aunt he likes and wanted to marry! He can't have a best friend!
