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Lurkermin

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I love how both reviews start with playing until the same exact distance point and then branch off into entirely different opinions lol.
Would you believe me if I told you the 1 star review was the entire reason I tried this game?
Like, I needed to know what happened to the other guy lol.
Game's not bad at all, there is one glaring issue, completing quests that give items is bugged so you don't get the item.
The dev has another game like this dropping in December, and I'm keeping my eye on that.
 

aihikari

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Netorare ohhhhh NETORARE~, (in my opinion) Vanilla Harem is spoonfeeding the player, I cant say its bad but there are other fLaVoRs. I WANNA WRESTLE THAT SPOON TO FEED MYSELF SO ADD A (NTR)RIVAL.

Nice game btw but somewhat bland in uhhh i cant put into words, 3.5/5 Like its teetering towards 4 but somewhat bland enough to be mid 3
Lol what's wrong with staying loyal to your targeted audiences?

If I'm being honest, devs who try to add both vanilla and ntr in a harem game earn less respect from me than devs who just straight up make a netorare/netorase game. The latter know what they can do best and gun for it, the former just want to stir both pots and have a "valid" excuse for slow progress.
 
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Would you believe me if I told you the 1 star review was the entire reason I tried this game?
Like, I needed to know what happened to the other guy lol.
Game's not bad at all, there is one glaring issue, completing quests that give items is bugged so you don't get the item.
The dev has another game like this dropping in December, and I'm keeping my eye on that.
I was fully expecting someone else to try it based on that review. Though I am mildly surprised by how generous your review is. It's a grindy mess of generic fantasy and dungeon crawl stuff for lackluster art. None of it independently is bad in a vacuum and could be a good component of a broader game. Plenty of grindy RPGMs out there. But this game basically did nothing more than add some flavor text to why your dungeon dives can be interspersed with lackluster H-animations and why the girl pictured has a stat boost. Multiple girls and variations hardly matter when it's at best a scene collector you'll occasionally need to slog through a dungeon for more gold to spend more nights unlocking more scenes.

I agree the concept isn't bad and makes decent use of a typical trope. I like it. I would like to like the game. As a demo, I could see it being worth 3-4 stars as a promising look. However, this is a full ass game for sale(and pirates) and offers next to nothing with it that can't be found better done in a different game. It's basically the barebones mechanics of a game with nothing else. (If you like this sort of FPV dungeon crawl things I'd suggest looking into something like the Bunny Black games. Though you can spend so damn long between scenes in that too.)

I would agree that if the dev built on this games concept at all their upcoming game would be worth watching for. But as for this one it's just an endless list of questions of "why am in this dungeon? why can I only do things with one girl once per night? why do I care about any of these girls? why don't I just go read a doujinshi instead?"
 
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kohi_kohi

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I rate this game Promising/10. It could still be more, for what it's worth, but the bugs that exist for it hold it back significantly, and while I could comment on the game's difficulty or its present lack thereof, I am loath to progress until the bugs are fixed, if Shiravune ever gets around to it that is.
 

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Why is this tag as 2D? Even dlsite tag this as 3D作品.
Sadly, shiravune is always competing with KG on how much bugs they can add to a game...
 

kohi_kohi

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Why is this tag as 2D? Even dlsite tag this as 3D作品.
Sadly, shiravune is always competing with KG on how much bugs they can add to a game...
At least KG provides aftercare. Shiravune tends to leave those hanging.
 

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so far i've played until floor 17..endurace quest doesn't really give the rewards but it doesn't really give me any issues in the game since I can still progress but on floor 17 I met a girl who needs a specific item on the same floor but even if you found the item it does not appear in your inventory so you cannot give the item to girl.. You don't really need to do the "side quest" to beat the floor but I'm already seeing the problems that will appear when you go further floors that need a certain key items to progress (so far you can't get key items in your inventory). Hope they fix it since I am kinda having a good time with the grind
 

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I was fully expecting someone else to try it based on that review. Though I am mildly surprised by how generous your review is. It's a grindy mess of generic fantasy and dungeon crawl stuff for lackluster art. None of it independently is bad in a vacuum and could be a good component of a broader game. Plenty of grindy RPGMs out there. But this game basically did nothing more than add some flavor text to why your dungeon dives can be interspersed with lackluster H-animations and why the girl pictured has a stat boost. Multiple girls and variations hardly matter when it's at best a scene collector you'll occasionally need to slog through a dungeon for more gold to spend more nights unlocking more scenes.

I agree the concept isn't bad and makes decent use of a typical trope. I like it. I would like to like the game. As a demo, I could see it being worth 3-4 stars as a promising look. However, this is a full ass game for sale(and pirates) and offers next to nothing with it that can't be found better done in a different game. It's basically the barebones mechanics of a game with nothing else. (If you like this sort of FPV dungeon crawl things I'd suggest looking into something like the Bunny Black games. Though you can spend so damn long between scenes in that too.)

I would agree that if the dev built on this games concept at all their upcoming game would be worth watching for. But as for this one it's just an endless list of questions of "why am in this dungeon? why can I only do things with one girl once per night? why do I care about any of these girls? why don't I just go read a doujinshi instead?"
I didn't think my review was too overly generous, gave it a 4/5 because it was plainly a good/decent hgame
Especially for me, because it seems lately the H industry is filled with bog-standard Renpy games what actually don't have gameplay more than "how fast can you left click".
I did think to update my review after learning about the glitch where quests can't give rewards, that's pretty unacceptable in any game.
And I was really really hoping the endurance quests would afford endurance to sleep with more than 1 girl a night, but it is what it is.
 

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so far i've played until floor 17..endurace quest doesn't really give the rewards but it doesn't really give me any issues in the game since I can still progress but on floor 17 I met a girl who needs a specific item on the same floor but even if you found the item it does not appear in your inventory so you cannot give the item to girl.. You don't really need to do the "side quest" to beat the floor but I'm already seeing the problems that will appear when you go further floors that need a certain key items to progress (so far you can't get key items in your inventory). Hope they fix it since I am kinda having a good time with the grind
Sadly, games from 2023, unless a fan goes in to fix it, it likely won't be fixed.
I might take a look under the hood to see why quest items aren't doled out though.
 

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I didn't think my review was too overly generous, gave it a 4/5 because it was plainly a good/decent hgame
Especially for me, because it seems lately the H industry is filled with bog-standard Renpy games what actually don't have gameplay more than "how fast can you left click".
I suppose this is primarily where we differed in experience with this game then. You enjoyed the fresh mechanics, I saw it as little more than a bog-standard RPGM game without any plot or characters beyond the artwork. Basically every fantasy-themed RPGM out there, h-game or otherwise, will have you buy gear in a shop, trudge through a shop, and rest in an inn. So what I saw was near-bog standard RPGM mechanics with two points of interest: dungeon delving is FPV instead of the usual top down which can be a nice mix up and sex has a mechanical benefit to the game.

Unfortunately for me, that's barely enough to scrape at the bottom of 4 stars assuming everything else was fine and still more likely than not it'd fall into 3 stars. Then add in the basic lack of any sort of writing past the introduction and despite the variation in characters and positions hollow feeling h-scenes the game just felt like an empty void to me.

Good/decent hgame to me would take the base of this game and then give me a reason to be exploring the dungeon. Give the girls some semblance of a personality. I feel even those bejeweled puzzle games have more in the way of story and character personality than this one. It felt eerie how mindlessly happy the girls looked in scenes for as far as I'm concerned no reason. Throw in some plot about them being resistant to needing to rely on magic semen to get through the dungeon. Events where they realize the stats would really make things easier. Come to realize that MC is kind of cute/nice/manly/whatever in his own way. Even better, throw in branching routes where you can choose between being a romantic/caring partner seeking to help the girls through the dungeon while enjoying yourselves or a darker/sadistic partner that just revels in watching these strong female adventures become corrupted and addicted to your magic jizz.
But all we had was "this is a game where you have sex with girls because it gives them stat boosts and the girls go fight in a dungeon because there's a dungeon because of course there is this is a fantasy RPGM and every fantasy RPGM has a dungeon and you can buy gear from the shop to be stronger because of course you can this is a fantasy RPGM and every fantasy RPGM has a shop." Hence my critique of "this feels like the skeleton of a game". Something good could be here, but there's not anything really present as far as I'm concerned.

But I do feel your pain. There's more than enough Ren'Py visual novels that really don't offer more than a few h scenes and mediocre writing at best. So if you want to play a game and not read a novel interspersed with sex then this would definitely be a breath of fresh air. Glad some people can enjoy this as I do hope better games of a similar nature are made.
 

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i remember playing this without translation and enjoying it.

what isn't fantastic are the H-scenes.
some animated nicely, otherwise very lackluster.
you'll catch on real quick that a handful of girls share certain H-animations (which can be a + or -)

enjoyable enough game, for what it is.
this concept but done good would be nice.
 

kohi_kohi

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Sadly, games from 2023, unless a fan goes in to fix it, it likely won't be fixed.
I might take a look under the hood to see why quest items aren't doled out though.
If nothing else Shiravune recognized fan feedback and are looking into it...

But it remains to be seen if they actually will.
 

bobr12

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Is it full game? In last floor there 2 crystal, when you touch them there saying- something opening. What was open? There nothing new on the floor. And in game codes (Save editor)- there black magician, new paladin, where i get them?
 

bobr12

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Yes, i was right on theirs site- there "Labyrinth Flower" version 1.11. With new characters, it is older version of game.
 

bobr12

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Here my save. In on last floor. Already touch 2 crystals, dont know, what they open. Only final boss, which you can fight, as many time, as you want remain. Is there anything else you can do, what was open with 2 crystals?
 

bobr12

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Ok, i was wrong. There guide on how get bonus characters. But i still dont know, what 2 crystals unlocked. Probably this- The Demon King statue is located on the far right of the 29th floor. (Go left → right → right → right → right) Interacting with the Demon King statue once will start a double battle
 
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