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yeah, luckily i had a save right on the 3some choice for situations like this :p

But about Miku, idk how to trigger "Essence of Eiderdown" :cry:
From what's reported here, Miku love > 55 and visit her dorm on Sat after finishing Voice of Vibration; she will become unavailable for awhile after Voice of Vibration so just keep checking her dorm until the option appears.
 
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alex2011

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Just finished the update. It was a mixed bag for me and felt like a slog to read through. Aside from Wakana and Ayane this update focused on the characters I'm least interested in, and even those two aren't particularly favorites of mine. But my real problem was with how once again Sel seems allergic to committing to a development for long before returning things to the status quo. I really would have preferred if Miku remained broken and Futaba's freakout continued. Not to mention, the reveal regarding Miku's parents came too late imo, it was pretty obvious that there was some sort of gun shooting incident as early as Ch1 and dragging out that mystery all the way until now made me lose interest in it.

It's unfortunate because I was starting to feel really excited about LiL again for the first time since Ch2's Halloween but these past 2-3 updates haven't really delivered and instead of capitalizing on all the build up and escalating things they just slowed them down more. At this point I'm not even sure anything noteworthy will happen by the end of Ch3 and even if it does, I probably won't care as much as I am supposed to.
The lack of focus is entirely intentional, he uses that as burn out prevention as, according to him, focusing on one character or set of characters for too long starts to get to him.
 
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ElukiaTV

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Uta and Chika doing a dual cosplay...
Next 3some target for Chika?
(jk, but..)
Also, this is for halloween, right?
Commonner IO... Jailbait Miku... Is Makoto's halloween theme being the stereotipical cock addict elf?
 

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The lack of focus is entirely intentional, he uses that as burn out prevention as, according to him, focusing on one character or set of characters for too long starts to get to him.
Nah that's something I've grown to accept by now, it was more so that there weren't many positives to outweigh my problems with the update because it didn't focus on characters I'm invested in.
 

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Amaya is the best cosplay, she even nails the stare, I just can't figure out who is Ayane's cosplay.
 

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Is save editing not possible anymore? Last version ago I get no problem after editing my save but now I can't edit the save and not get a warning while locking me out of that specific save. Can't get 100% complete save since I forgot to bang Maki in that one invite over.
 

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Why is Otoha so hated in the community lately? I don’t really understand the reason, she kissed Nicky in a fit of feelings, but this is not such a big reason not to hate her so fiercely
 

KumaOLD

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Because she is the reason you cannot fuck Rin (?
I personally don't dislike her character

You can't fuck Rin because Selebus is an asshole. Here the problem is too many characters introduced almost immediately and this is a huge topic on which you can write a dissertation
For the same reason, Otoha is too empty a character and an appendage to Rin.
 

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Why is Otoha so hated in the community lately? I don’t really understand the reason, she kissed Nicky in a fit of feelings, but this is not such a big reason not to hate her so fiercely
it's just funny to make fun of her
none of the characters are particularly unlikeable, so someone has to be the scapegoat

on another topic, I have to say it's become very jarring playing something else and hearing the music that's also in this game. like no, no, that track is for staring at the sky, not for a porn game... this is all wrong...
 
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Why is Otoha so hated in the community lately? I don’t really understand the reason, she kissed Nicky in a fit of feelings, but this is not such a big reason not to hate her so fiercely
I guess people don't like her because she looked down on Akira for being into his students, smth like that.
While she does the same thing now, with being into her tutor Nikki and not coming clean with Rin.
She's a hypocrite.

Is save editing not possible anymore? Last version ago I get no problem after editing my save but now I can't edit the save and not get a warning while locking me out of that specific save. Can't get 100% complete save since I forgot to bang Maki in that one invite over.
My guess is that Sel upgraded to newest Ren'py version and savegame editors haven't caught up yet.
I think i also read something about something new in savegames that are supposed to stop cheating.
 
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I tried replaying from the Chika decision to see the two missing Ayane events and I realized that this game is as close to a social torture experiment as a porn game can get. I envision Selebus cackling madly in some moldy cellar at the thought.

Imagine playing this abomination of a sandbox from the start, guessing all the right times when to be where to see any progress. Then do it 1000 times...

Well, I have to be off. I'll go get a root canal to relax.
 

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Why is Otoha so hated in the community lately? I don’t really understand the reason, she kissed Nicky in a fit of feelings, but this is not such a big reason not to hate her so fiercely
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Otoha is an extremely shitty person, which she's aware of:
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Yet instead of improving, she just wants to rationalize and move past it:
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Even the likes of Kirin, and Yumi, are at least trying to become better people. So, even Otoha's one pathetic excuse for her actions: "we're just teenagers" is utterly bullshit, which everyone knows. We've all been teenagers and unless you're lying to yourself, you know, it's no excuse. Otoha just disgusts me as a human being so far, and there's nothing I find particularly likable about her.

Worst of all though, I find her boring as fuck. I feel like everything she brings to the table is done by more interesting characters. Even her "Little Brother" and presumably shotacon stuff is done better by Sekai. One thing actually unique to Otoha is her hitting her girlfriend, and that's not really something I want to see.

I personally wouldn't really care if she got fridged. I mean I would, but it'd be more like "It's about time", than "Oh, NOtoha!" or whatever, lmao.

Edit: In retrospect, I wouldn't mind Nodoka's suggestion either:
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Otoha is an extremely shitty person, which she's aware of:
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Yet instead of improving, she just wants to rationalize and move past it:
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Even the likes of Kirin, and Yumi, are at least trying to become better people. So, even Otoha's one pathetic excuse for her actions: "we're just teenagers" is utterly bullshit, which everyone knows. We've all been teenagers and unless you're lying to yourself, you know, it's no excuse. Otoha just disgusts me as a human being so far, and there's nothing I find particularly likable about her.

Worst of all though, I find her boring as fuck. I feel like everything she brings to the table is done by more interesting characters. Even her "Little Brother" and presumably shotacon stuff is done better by Sekai. One thing actually unique to Otoha is her hitting her girlfriend, and that's not really something I want to see.

I personally wouldn't really care if she got fridged. I mean I would, but it'd be more like "It's about time", than "Oh, NOtoha!" or whatever, lmao.

Edit: In retrospect, I wouldn't mind Nodoka's suggestion either:
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Well, I see that Otoha's relationship was imposed by strong persuasion from both Rin and the class
She didn’t agree for a long time because Rin literally recently rejected Chica, that is, the relationship was initially unhealthy (as if your friend’s ex-girlfriend after breaking up would start to stick to you)
Therefore, blaming Otoha for all mortal sins just because she gave up in this circus is not very good
 

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Well, I see that Otoha's relationship was imposed by strong persuasion from both Rin and the class
She didn’t agree for a long time because Rin literally recently rejected Chica, that is, the relationship was initially unhealthy (as if your friend’s ex-girlfriend after breaking up would start to stick to you)
Therefore, blaming Otoha for all mortal sins just because she gave up in this circus is not very good
Nah, I'll hold the actions she chooses to commit, against her. She was never forced to do any of this, let alone continue to do so.

Also the relationship is still Unhealthy. Otoha is toxic as fuck, and as far as I can tell, she's only with Rin so that others can't be:
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Meanwhile, Otoha seems to just be waiting until she can find an opening to get with Niki:
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Otoha doesn't really seem to give a damn about Rin, her girlfriend, as a person.
 
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Damn Deskel.. you have been wanting to rant about Otoha for a while huh? XD let it out man, let it all out.
I wasn't kidding, this is literally what comes to mind when Otoha gets brought up:
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The recent beach update, kind of just solidified this for me.
 

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Nah, I'll hold the actions she chooses to commit, against her. She was never forced to do any of this, let alone continue to do so.

Also the relationship is still Unhealthy. Otoha is toxic as fuck, and as far as I can tell, she's only with Rin so that others can't be:
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Meanwhile, Otoha seems to just be waiting until she can find an opening to get with Niki:
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Otoha doesn't really seem to give a damn about Rin, her girlfriend, as a person.

If you read the whole line of their relationship from the beginning, it was obvious from the beginning
that is, this is a logical result of how the relationship began and how it continued until the moment with the kiss (unfortunately, due to technical reasons, I cannot provide screenshots)
It’s also worth looking at Rin, who also put pressure on Otoha
So, in the end, both are guilty, but only Otoha takes all the blows
 
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