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Moonflare

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A few thoughts about the update:

First, a bunch of memes:
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Now my notes on the huge amount of lore:
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Finally, I thought it was an amazing update that really needed to happen. I have been questioning Selebus writing on multiple fronts for a while now, and it was a good decision to stop creating more bullshit and actually ground the story with a lot of lore drops.

It was also incredibly wholesome and to give both Akira and the player a notion of who he will become, including loving his daughter in a healthy way, and actively rejecting cheating on his wife is also very welcomed. On its own, a 9/10 update (Himawari is amazing), but against the quality of chapter 4, 10/10.
Good work, Selebus.
 
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Moonflare

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i believe Himawari is Ayane's wish.
Other than she saying she isn't, and having a past of her own, Himawari created a pocket universe through her wish. Which is something wishes can't do, which is why Maya's world gathered so much attention from everyone. If Himawari was the same, then Maya wouldn't be an anomaly and Shiori wouldn't take Himawari creating a pocket dimension as something ordinary.
Ayane is truly, objectively, best girl.
She is also canonically the real waifu.
Himawari is officially and irrefutably named Himawari :p
True, but it is as Shiori says. I rest my case.
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TheGoodPastor

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Maya got a wish too. Which is why the entire LiL plot exists
Yeah, and as a result she's viewed as this disgusting and dangerous abomination who they don't even want knowledge of leaking out about. Wouldn't really make sense for her to be viewed that way whilst they casually employ Himawari.

Plus she wouldn't have to worry about her parents getting together to make her if she was Ayane's wish, it throws the need for her conception out the window entirely.

Assuming Ayane's wish isn't a thing that somehow comes into play later and since wishing for a world seems to give it to some other you who gets to reap the benefits she'd probably have used it when her mum left I think.
 
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Detective Dc345

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Here's Yumi cosplaying as Shiori. This took me significantly less time to do than what I expected. (The HDR on my laptop is brightening my screenshots for some reason) And I'm to tired to actually put this into a render.
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I'm also linking the character card if anybody wants to do anything with it. So have fun rendering or gooning to goth Yumi. Whatever floats the ole' horny boat.
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Moonflare

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This is the second post on lore, but this one is just on the reevaluation of what we already knew. Especially on Maya and Kumon-mi.
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These were a few things I thought about from getting the info on Maya. I'm sure a lot can be further examined, but this is preliminary.
 
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gamenok

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I imagine Selebus have tried for a long time to figure out to write and show the backstory and the whole lore behind the constant questions for the worldbuilding that he teases himself, and I think he did a pretty good job.
I know that he's rather controversial here for several reasons, but he's just simply a great story writer.. whether you're a love or hate all of the inner monologue.
 

jclark1337

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Wow yeah, phenomenal update. I cried several times and I'm not ashamed to admit it. I knew I was onto something when referencing this story as having a hopeful undertone despite all of the suffering.

Life is full of suffering, but as long as you persevere then all the darkness just makes the good things that much more impactful.

As for discussion on the "true canon waifu" of the story, I personally think it's a bit more complicated than it seems...
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