Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.53.0] [Selebus]

[fdsasdf_p]

Not to pick fault as I'm no expert with linguistics and translations but isn't there an issue with direct literal transactions not always being accurate. Doesn't context and a knowledge of the languages idioms affect the final translations meaning. I'm thinking of times when I've seen examples of sentences being translated into another language and then changed back into the original language and they have completely lost thier original meaning. I mean, I would be interested to know what the translation of 'Buffalo Wings' would suggest about the animal of origin.

In this case in particular, little is lost when translating back to English so no worries. Not to mention shio ramen by default uses chicken broth (there are variations here but I'd say the majority of shio ramen is chicken-based), and perhaps this is why Kaori picked this one without it being on the menu and not because on a psychic level she somehow knows this is Tsuenyo's dad's favorite dish.

Also, to sate your curiosity, translating buffalo wings back from mandarin says "buffalo city chicken wings". Normally it isn't that screwed up if the dish name is just place/animal + animal parts (but I know there are definitely some hilarious examples out there)

 

[DeSkel15]

Not to pick fault as I'm no expert with linguistics and translations but isn't there an issue with direct literal transactions not always being accurate. Doesn't context and a knowledge of the languages idioms affect the final translations meaning. I'm thinking of times when I've seen examples of sentences being translated into another language and then changed back into the original language and they have completely lost thier original meaning. I mean, I would be interested to know what the translation of 'Buffalo Wings' would suggest about the animal of origin.

That's more of a problem for specific names for things or sentences.

Buffalo wings for example is actually a specific type of american chicken wings that was coined in Buffalo, New York. In Japanese it'd probably be called Buffalo tebasaki if they were referring to that type specifically.

 

[Deleted member 2223621]

Not to pick fault as I'm no expert with linguistics and translations but isn't there an issue with direct literal transactions not always being accurate. Doesn't context and a knowledge of the languages idioms affect the final translations meaning. I'm thinking of times when I've seen examples of sentences being translated into another language and then changed back into the original language and they have completely lost thier original meaning. I mean, I would be interested to know what the translation of 'Buffalo Wings' would suggest about the animal of origin.

I actually looked at pictures on google... and went "yep that's a sliced pork roll"... then I went to look up recipes. Looking further at the recipes some of them have chicken meat. Some have a mix of both but all of them use combos of chicken and pork bone to make stock
I only looked at 3 to 4 top search recipes. But hey I don't see why it HAS to have pork in it.

 

[DeSkel15]

Hmm my take on Tsuenyo's response is that she is merely disagreeing with Kaori every chance she gets because of her prominent "disfavortism" towards her, and especially when Kaori termed the killing of chickens for food as "sacrifice" because in Tsuenyo's words, they die unwillingly. Perhaps she simply acknowledges that she IS taking lives from living creatures despite having a plausible reason only on human's side. The rest of the slightly dark aspects about lives and everything is I'd say more from her weird personality.

For tori shio, I would say it's exactly because she loves ramen so much that she would not want to ruin even a single bowl due to her inexperience in making such dish (but why she hasn't made one this typical flavor before? maybe she DID dislike chickens after all? have to rewind her earlier events to check this).



I would tick Kirin off the list solely because Prisoner is skippable, as well as the rest of her toxic relationships with Ayane; true that her feeling of being defeated during the science fair would still exist if she didn't barge on that day in the beach hotel, but that feeling would not get to ferment into something this foul (like if you missed Prisoner, Kirin's interaction with Ayane would feel more like a bad friend, in comparison to a despicable scumbag if you didn't miss Prisoner).

But I'd definitely put the hottest boogleman in Kumon-mi, Ms. Sekai Awakara on the suspect list (speaking of which, I feel like the word "tendrils" was once used in describing something/someone prior to this John event but I for the love of god cannot remember if that was true)



LOL I'd imagine Maya being so PISSED if the ultimate secret to everything boils down to some birds. Sensei would be like "hey let's snap some chicken necks to save the world" and she'd be like:
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The thing about Tsuneyo is that she mentions killing chickens and birds, but I can't recall her saying she eats them. Her father did, but Tsuneyo seems opposed to even her father's fav ramen. Then again Tsuneyo can talk to birds, and adopted Noodles as her son so maybe eating things she can understand just seems wrong to her.

True about Kirin not becoming as demented if you miss prisoner, but like you said, she still has a problem with Ayane. Traumatizing her through Sensei was just on a whim, so I wouldn't put it past her to do other things if the opportunity comes up. Still, I don't really think she did it.

Tendrils:

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Yasu mentions the Tendrils after talking about "the World":

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which is virtually guaranteed to be Spirit Sekai, since others have referred to her as "The world" and Sekai can mean World. Yasu also claims it's the last of it's kind.

All of this is from Yasu's and Nodoka's last events. "The River Styx" and "Twisting Ivy" if I recall.

Overall: Spirit Sekai is likely a whole other kind of being than the gods we've known. She's also implied to be involved in the "space war" as the "world" was excited the day Makoto found out her father died.. which, well, doesn't bode well for the future.

Yasu also mentions something I think may be relevant to why Todd died:

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Spirit Sekai may have "recycled" Todd to get stronger. Cannibalizing it's own creations.

 

[Apollo259]

Does anyone know if the bonus question answer "cute puppy" in the v29 reset is visible in any events other than "lamb legs"(the one that needs the lottery number). This background specifically.

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If not I think anyone with a save that has seen "mothers milk" without "lamb legs" is likely to have sel mess with their save again in the future.

 

[fdsasdf_p]

Does anyone know if the bonus question answer "cute puppy" in the v29 reset is visible in any events other than "lamb legs"(the one that needs the lottery number). This background specifically.

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If not I think anyone with a save that has seen "mothers milk" without "lamb legs" is likely to have sel mess with their save again in the future.

That room jpeg is also there in Am I Awake? as well as the cute puppy so don't worry (at least not because of this)

 

[Apollo259]

Alright, I did not think to look that early in the game. I guess I should replay it and see what I have forgotten about. My notes.txt (that surely look like the ramblings of a mad man) was only started maybe halfway between reset 1 and 2.

 

[fdsasdf_p]

Tendrils:

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Yasu mentions the Tendrils after talking about "the World":

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which is virtually guaranteed to be Spirit Sekai, since others have referred to her as "The world" and Sekai can mean World. Yasu also claims it's the last of it's kind.

All of this is from Yasu's and Nodoka's last events. "The River Styx" and "Twisting Ivy" if I recall.

Overall, Spirit Sekai is likely a whole other kind of being than the gods we've known. She's also implied to be involved in the "space war" as the "world" was excited the day Makoto found out her father died.. which, well, doesn't bode well for the future.

Yasu also mentions something I think may be relevant to why Todd died:

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Spirit Sekai may have "recycled" Todd to get stronger. Cannibalizing it's own creations.

Thanks for looking them up!
Hmm if "the world" here and the sky tendrils all equate to Spirit Sekai, then according to Yasu's belief: despite recently acting like an angel and seeming working with two others in Toys, Spirit Sekai is one of these so-called "other forces of great power with poor intent", and is NOT on Nozomu/HOPE's team solely because Sekai looks like to be among one of the angels.

This makes me wonder if commanding angels really is a power exclusive only to HOPE/USER1 since we've seen USER2's presence coincides with angel 1 and 2 in The Scary Room (I don't think it's because USER1 pretends to be USER2 because, what purpose is there other than confusing players outside of the 4th wall? feeding Maya misinformation? How's that important?)

---pure conjecture plus god stuff below, so less than a quarter or none of it might end up being correct---

So either they (they as in angles with USER2 or Sekai) work together in a synergistic way to pull something's leg, just happen to be there together to fight for the same meat on the same plate, angel 1 and angle 2 are "free lancers" just like how Long Maya describes herself in Second Sun, or whichever god that is awake at the season or in control at the time can command all or, if not, most of the angels.

Currently I am leaning toward the last one. In fact, perhaps that god is like some type of game manager character that USERs can also login, just like in the case of Sensei. Every USER can use this character function called ANGEL to make changes in Kumon-mi, but the embodiment of each angelic action is different from USERs to USERs. Maybe the two angels finally learned how to rhyme in Toys is because they were under the command of the renowned former poet Sekai?

---pure conjecture above---

A side note: in The River Styx Yasu mentioned how she wanted to converse with "the world" but decided not to in fear of what her god may think about this action, but she totally talked to Spirit Sekai in Shelter with an unaware manner (a little WHOOPSIE for Yasu).

 

[barglenarglezous]

That's more of a problem for specific names for things or sentences.

Buffalo wings for example is actually a specific type of american chicken wings that was coined in Buffalo, New York. In Japanese it'd probably be called Buffalo tebasaki if they were referring to that type specifically.

Wait, you mean all this time I wasn't eating the wings of buffalos?

I feel cheated!

 

[DeSkel15]

Wait, you mean all this time I wasn't eating the wings of buffalos?

I feel cheated!

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if most people have no idea why they are called Buffalo wings, and just go with it.

 

[Deleted member 2223621]

Wait, you mean all this time I wasn't eating the wings of buffalos?

I feel cheated!

Depends there are various breeds of chicken. One such breed called the 'freedom rangers' also have the nickname of Buffalo chicken...it's not a wide spread nickname mainly because they are fully grown in 9 to 10 weeks, taste good and means you get/collect more wings in a year than you do with other chicken breeds for freezing... I only remember this cause I made that joke before with some farmer friends who insisted there is a 'buffalo chicken' insisted it was the breed name and was slightly ashamed it was just a nickname.

If that rumor of the KFC genetically engineered chicken with 8 wings is true... totally should give it the breed name buffalo chicken.

 

[DeSkel15]

Thanks for looking them up!
Hmm if "the world" here and the sky tendrils all equate to Spirit Sekai, then according to Yasu's belief: despite recently acting like an angel and seeming working with two others in Toys, Spirit Sekai is one of these so-called "other forces of great power with poor intent", and is NOT on Nozomu/HOPE's team solely because Sekai looks like to be among one of the angels.

This makes me wonder if commanding angels really is a power exclusive only to HOPE/USER1 since we've seen USER2's presence coincides with angel 1 and 2 in The Scary Room (I don't think it's because USER1 pretends to be USER2 because, what purpose is there other than confusing players outside of the 4th wall? feeding Maya misinformation? How's that important?)

---pure conjecture plus god stuff below, so less than a quarter or none of it might end up being correct---

So either they (they as in angles with USER2 or Sekai) work together in a synergistic way to pull something's leg, just happen to be there together to fight for the same meat on the same plate, angel 1 and angle 2 are "free lancers" just like how Long Maya describes herself in Second Sun, or whichever god that is awake at the season or in control at the time can command all or, if not, most of the angels.

Currently I am leaning toward the last one. In fact, perhaps that god is like some type of game manager character that USERs can also login, just like in the case of Sensei. Every USER can use this character function called ANGEL to make changes in Kumon-mi, but the embodiment of each angelic action is different from USERs to USERs. Maybe the two angels finally learned how to rhyme in Toys is because they were under the command of the renowned former poet Sekai?

---pure conjecture above---

A side note: in The River Styx Yasu mentioned how she wanted to converse with "the world" but decided not to in fear of what her god may think about this action, but she totally talked to Spirit Sekai in Shelter with an unaware manner (a little WHOOPSIE for Yasu).

Spirit Sekai's angels actually are Black:

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as shown in Futaba's "Toys", compared to Nozomu's who are White:

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as shown in many events, so I think they are simply different angels or at least angels under different powers now.

I also don't think User2 has angels at all. User1 was merely trying to scare Maya in "the Scary Room", which is why "User2" ignored permissions yet didn't do anything, because User1 couldn't anyway. Plus the white cat, and white angels showing up, and the whole thing being meant to hurt Maya, all are signs of User1/Nozomu aka the callous god. Not to mention, User2 wants to protect Sensei:

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as it said in "The Word of the Day", and is likely the god that resets the world for Maya. That, and at that point it seemed like User1 hates Maya, so if it could reset her.. then well, she'd likely be reset by now.

Also this is just a theory, but I think Spirit Sekai used Nozomu/HOPE to get more power, and just recently split from Him. (All that Maya hatred:

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and likely other things that seemed to work for HOPE, like the Maya's, may have actually been coming from or serving Sekai)

Yasu and even her bunnies like Yomiel who serve Him, seem to be scared of Sekai:

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and as soon as Sensei seemed to restore her, she seemed to "claim" Yasu. Yasu also thought it was Him who made that recent 2 month time skip, but then she seemed unable to understand how. Sekai apparently being "restored" right after that time skip, seems to imply it was her doing. I also think it may have been Sekai who "killed" Nozomu and that's why Yasu's god was in so much pain, and so wary of "The World".

Pareidolia aka User3 also mentioned he was becoming stronger, but wasn't the only one:

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in Sana's "Ad Infinitum", and Pareidolia showed up again briefly after Sekai was shown on the Roof:

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in "A Thousand Years", and in the Japanese named event where Sekai gets restored, you can hear a male voice trying to warn Sensei, who I'm thinking is Pareidolia. Meanwhile that Female voice that is mentioning the first time they held hands (and most of the female voices that show up in other events) is likely Sekai, so I'm assuming Spirit Sekai was the other one growing. I'm also thinking she is or is becoming User4.

Could be wrong though.

 

[DeSkel15]

genetically engineered chicken with 8 wings

I feel like I've seen something like that in a show or cartoon before, and found it disturbing, but I can't exactly place it. That's going to bug me for a bit.

 

[Cinterkells]

I feel like I've seen something like that in a show or cartoon before, and found it disturbing, but I can't exactly place it. That's going to bug me for a bit.

squidbillies, don't remember the episode but it was fucked.

 

[DeSkel15]

squidbillies, don't remember the episode but it was fucked.

Thank you, and yes that was it.. Damn, I regret watching that show as a kid, that and Robot Chicken.

 

[Cinterkells]

Thank you, and yes that was it.. Damn, I regret watching that show as a kid, that and Robot Chicken.

I was a sensitive kid too, funny that were seeking shit like this now.

 

[DeSkel15]

I was a sensitive kid too, funny that were seeking shit like this now.

I wouldn't consider being disturbed by those shows sensitive, tbh. That was kind of the point of them sometimes. Organs falling out of a guy after being crushed and trapped by a train for a while, should disturb people. If it doesn't, well, some people are callous.

I'd definitely take this game over those shows any day though. I'd probably recommend it to my kid self, in their place, if I could.

 

[DeSkel15]

Even in D&D Tsuneyo's character seems to specialize at murdering all birds and birdlike creatures:

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What did birds do to her...? I'm starting to think she's some kind of secret weapon created to defeat the god of chickens.

 

[SCP 001]

just to be clear: the only animated sex scenes in the game are the repeatable scenes (ie, the 'come over' scenes and the scenes where you visit them in their dorms/at work), and in general each girl has about 2 to 5 animated scenes in total?

 

[Bingoogus]

just to be clear: the only animated sex scenes in the game are the repeatable scenes (ie, the 'come over' scenes and the scenes where you visit them in their dorms/at work), and in general each girl has about 2 to 5 animated scenes in total?

Yep, Selly doesn't like to invest extra energy into animating one-time scenes, only repeatables are animated.