I guess, but her statement was along the lines of "if you don't like incest, I have bad news for you" suggesting that the news is bad because he doesn't want incest. Also I don't think Akira would be bothered by figuratively losing a blood relative, dude hasn't even thought about his parents this whole time.
I mean I agree. i'm more fond of the 2nd and 3rd explanation I gave as it just kind of fits better. more people seem to be trying to hype the first interpretation more though
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Based on how overall Noriko is as a person in front of us players, and also the fact that Maya admits this is something she never dealt with and did not know for sure in What Is, I'd say Maya is still mostly conjecturing Noriko's impact on the current Sensei and not because she has solid evidence on Noriko's dirt. I am not even fully sure if Noriko ever met Sensei or even Maya after the cycle started. If they haven't met one time in millions of cycles, what or when does "last time" mean in Stop Looking For Answers? pre-cycle?
(tbh I believe one of the purposes for having Noriko this character is to prove that Maya can be wrong even when it's about the one only thing she cares)
I think a part of it has something to do with what Maya came to "misunderstand" about the cause of breaking Senseis. His memory of the tutoring past has always been the trigger to kill a Sensei (need verification), so those memories must remain locked at all costs. Thus when someone who also holds the trigger shows up with a higher tendency of spilling the beans, Maya goes panic and basically starts exercising extreme preventive measures, but all based on the "incorrect" conclusion she arrived due to her limited personal experiences: whoever knows Sensei's secret past is dangerous.
(using the word misunderstand and incorrect as loosely as I can because this isn't something revealed to the players, either)
I'd say to really break a Sensei, you have to either tell Sensei a very specific part of his past that involves Maya, or have Maya actively tell him literally anything slightly important (in fact I think Noriko ALMOST broke Sensei during Loxosceles Reclusa, but I think that was because she mentioned Maya during that).
The only piece that I think may relate to Noriko's possible deeds or on a broad aspect why Sensei disappeared the second time is in Baby Finches.
(most of the time [redacted] takes place when the names Akira/Sekai/Maya are mentioned. But here it can't be Akira or Maya, and Sekai is already dead; filling them with Noriko and old district seems seamless, but this is a very wild guess and close to a baseless accusation tbh)
But if true, her deeds were confirmed "serious", and it backs up my belief that no matter what Noriko may or may not has done, it was pre-cycle and not because she once broke a Sensei.
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That is and European Robin.
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This, but mall instead of old district. Don't know why.
"Happy" as first because "pickup/corny line and "we ran away" as the other one.
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What happened to moving on? Personally I'm not sure what reason there is to continue this.
Evidence: That's not evidence. It was just a theory of Maya's that was proven wrong.
Then: skip to the end of this reply and you'll see why.
Overreaction: that's your opinion. Factually, she overreacted. She even seems to regret it since it's caused people to think she likes Sensei which of course was not her intention.
Break him: Maya simply tries to tell him something and he sees her as a bird. Noriko and Niki show him things from the past and he regains memories, and even his name. It's pretty clear what memories are bad for him. Maya related ones.
Direct: It's conjecture to think she's telling the truth. Besides that though, It's been shown that she literally can't tell Sensei about the past... So why are you so quick to believe she's suddenly able to? It's blatant she's not actually telling the truth. Otherwise Sensei would have blacked out and seen her as a bird.
Btw, using context to understand things is far more effective than merely seeing words and going with it. Not sure why you think your "direct" and "indirect" comparison is worth noting. If anything, you're indirectly ignoring the big picture by thinking "direct" statements are better(?).
Secret: You assume Maya actually has an experience of Noriko not keeping a secret. Just because someone says something, doesn't make it true.
Anyway, it's been confirmed that Noriko never actually did anything to Maya by Maya and Noriko:
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How Maya actually convinced Sensei to abandon Noriko isn't confirmed though.
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Random Theory time:
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Hmm replaying Baby Finches also makes me realize Maya was actually well-versed in a religion (or at least theories associated with it) based off a computer, even used phrases resonating what we learned from There Is Nothing.
But she claimed to be unfamiliar with religion stories related to a higher power with wires in Changing of Seasons when Sensei asks her about his weird dream that involves the god of wires. It might be just how Sensei phrases his question, or Maya avoiding questions as usual, or not everything shown is Baby Finches is real, or that part of Maya's memory was replaced with fake ones.
(BRAIN HURTING)
But she claimed to be unfamiliar with religion stories related to a higher power with wires in Changing of Seasons when Sensei asks her about his weird dream that involves the god of wires. It might be just how Sensei phrases his question, or Maya avoiding questions as usual, or not everything shown is Baby Finches is real, or that part of Maya's memory was replaced with fake ones.
(BRAIN HURTING)
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You have to remember that making that public would also mean that her mother was a cheater.
This are japanese people we are talking about (technically). No way she would make something like that public by how much she cries at their grave.
I meant keeping it a secret from Akira; she wouldn't have to tell everyone else to get the relationship she wants. I'm not sure she'd expect Akira to be too upset at Sekai for cheating, given his own socially unacceptable attraction towards teenagers.
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Sometime ago, someone said that there were 3 checkmarks on Sensei's room and when he fucked Ami it went up to four, does anyone know if they also go up to four if he doesn't fuck Ami? I don't even know what event they show up or I'd confirm it myself.
With that in mind, if they do not increase if he doesn't fuck Ami then it's really possible that Ami is aware of the resets and has her own means of keeping herself through it.
With that in mind, if they do not increase if he doesn't fuck Ami then it's really possible that Ami is aware of the resets and has her own means of keeping herself through it.
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That corkboard shows up in the second reset event, and again in Life of Prizes.
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Ugh, found the events, there are 3 and 6 checkmarks in "There is nothing" and "A Life of Prizes" respectively, but there were no triggers from URM so probably has no ties to fucking or not the girls.
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In replay mode, both my bad and good uncle saves give 3 checkmarks in There Is Nothing and 6 checkmarks (5 small 1 big) in A Life of Prizes though; could it be another replay-won't-work shenanigan? (seriously stop it!).
But honestly do we know for sure that those checkmarks really indicate Sensei's girl tally? Is it just because of different amifingered values potentially give different numbers of checkmark? or has someone with extreme talents managed to decipher the meaning of the poem next to it?
Also, assuming checkmarks really are girl tallies (make sense I mean), who are the default 3 checkmarks at the end of Ch1?
- If it only counts deflowering, then only Ayane fits
- If it counts as soon as things getting illicit, then Chika/Ayane/Makoto/Futaba/ (same result if you use naming event to sort)
- If it counts their first invite-over, then Chika/Makoto/
So yeah idk, don't see a coherent way to locate even those 3 checkmarks. But I am only using the pink events and the baby blue events to pinpoint, so if it's something in the main events then fuck me I can't track that
BTW, during Maya's Somewhere Inside of a Dream, it's a big X. If anyone remember which other events also has that corkboard present feel free to share!
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Whilst dicking around replaying stuff i found this, not really saying anything with it but i thought it was relevant to you guys digging up clues to things like who's been calling Sensei Akira, this scene would imply Ami never calls him Akira, though it's not proof, just implicated.
Also, when Uta does the flavorbeam, Tsuneyo's reaction is fucking hilarious.
Also, Rin in the back.
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This honestly tracks. If Akira glitches out every time someone uses his name, she'd eventually notice that he just doesn't respond to it. At all. So she'd call him by what he actually responds to.
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I mentioned a couple of weeks ago that I was jotting down every event that Selebus marked as written on the progress tracker and the order in which they were completed to test a theory.
The following list is the order the scenes for the coming update were written and coded. This may or may not translate into the order they need to be played in. That's the theory I'm testing. Sharing this because holy hell, figuring out where to go next during the previous update was a headache.
Note: Lately, Sel has used the "trigger a scene with X by going to character Ys location instead of their usual haunts," so I don't expect this to make navigation simple since it doesn't have any triggers listed, but it should at least tell us which character to focus on for the next scene in-sequence. In theory.
Posting this now because my free time is dubious between now and the weekend.
All four Makoto events
All four Nodoka events
First Main event
All three Rika events
All four Touka events
First Kaori event
2nd Main event
Second Kaori Event
First two Ami events
Third Kaori event
Third Ami event
Last Main event
The following list is the order the scenes for the coming update were written and coded. This may or may not translate into the order they need to be played in. That's the theory I'm testing. Sharing this because holy hell, figuring out where to go next during the previous update was a headache.
Note: Lately, Sel has used the "trigger a scene with X by going to character Ys location instead of their usual haunts," so I don't expect this to make navigation simple since it doesn't have any triggers listed, but it should at least tell us which character to focus on for the next scene in-sequence. In theory.
Posting this now because my free time is dubious between now and the weekend.
All four Makoto events
All four Nodoka events
First Main event
All three Rika events
All four Touka events
First Kaori event
2nd Main event
Second Kaori Event
First two Ami events
Third Kaori event
Third Ami event
Last Main event
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Could be wrong, but perhaps the 3 checks are Sekai, Maya, and Ayane. The number of girls Sensei had sex with in this timeline at that point. Ami could be the 4th optionally.In replay mode, both my bad and good uncle saves give 3 checkmarks in There Is Nothing and 6 checkmarks (5 small 1 big) in A Life of Prizes though; could it be another replay-won't-work shenanigan? (seriously stop it!).
But honestly do we know for sure that those checkmarks really indicate Sensei's girl tally? Is it just because of different amifingered values potentially give different numbers of checkmark? or has someone with extreme talents managed to decipher the meaning of the poem next to it?
Also, assuming checkmarks really are girl tallies (make sense I mean), who are the default 3 checkmarks at the end of Ch1?
- If it only counts deflowering, then only Ayane fits
- If it counts as soon as things getting illicit, then Chika/Ayane/Makoto/Futaba/ (same result if you use naming event to sort)
- If it counts their first invite-over, then Chika/Makoto/
So yeah idk, don't see a coherent way to locate even those 3 checkmarks. But I am only using the pink events and the baby blue events to pinpoint, so if it's something in the main events then fuck me I can't track that
BTW, during Maya's Somewhere Inside of a Dream, it's a big X. If anyone remember which other events also has that corkboard present feel free to share!
The poetry being by the checks, also makes me think that Spirit Sekai is the one keeping track. Not to mention, someone/something scribbled out Maya's note by the checks in the life of prizes event, and Sekai has shown to hate her. You also can hear a female voice in that event saying she loves Sensei and wants him to tell her he sees her, which I'm thinking was Spirit Sekai this whole time.
Also, apparently instead of 6 check marks in life of prizes, you can get 7:
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