Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.53.0] [Selebus]

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What happened to moving on? Personally I'm not sure what reason there is to continue this.

Evidence: That's not evidence. It was just a theory of Maya's that was proven wrong.

Then: skip to the end of this reply and you'll see why.

Overreaction: that's your opinion. Factually, she overreacted. She even seems to regret it since it's caused people to think she likes Sensei which of course was not her intention.

Break him: Maya simply tries to tell him something and he sees her as a bird. Noriko and Niki show him things from the past and he regains memories, and even his name. It's pretty clear what memories are bad for him. Maya related ones.

Direct: It's conjecture to think she's telling the truth. Besides that though, It's been shown that she literally can't tell Sensei about the past... So why are you so quick to believe she's suddenly able to? It's blatant she's not actually telling the truth. Otherwise Sensei would have blacked out and seen her as a bird.

Btw, using context to understand things is far more effective than merely seeing words and going with it. Not sure why you think your "direct" and "indirect" comparison is worth noting. If anything, you're indirectly ignoring the big picture by thinking "direct" statements are better(?).

Secret: You assume Maya actually has an experience of Noriko not keeping a secret. Just because someone says something, doesn't make it true.

Anyway, it's been confirmed that Noriko never actually did anything to Maya by Maya and Noriko:

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And that Maya was merely afraid of Noriko's existence possibly affecting Sensei:

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In other words: Maya's main problem with Noriko and the reason she took Sensei away from her, was simply because of the possibility that her existence would affect Sensei in a way Maya didn't want.

How Maya actually convinced Sensei to abandon Noriko isn't confirmed though.

we are literally going in circles everything you said in that post i have countered once already. and your rebuttal has been essentially no i'm right your are just wrong and maya lied with no evidence for it other than an moment that doesnt prove maya a liar because they never even finish talking about her reasons because noriko interrupts her. man i would have ended it, but you did this massive post that couldnt even be called a conclusion and moving on

Sometime ago, someone said that there were 3 checkmarks on Sensei's room and when he fucked Ami it went up to four, does anyone know if they also go up to four if he doesn't fuck Ami? I don't even know what event they show up or I'd confirm it myself.
With that in mind, if they do not increase if he doesn't fuck Ami then it's really possible that Ami is aware of the resets and has her own means of keeping herself through it.

I think this sounds cool, ami is building a sex wall

In replay mode, both my bad and good uncle saves give 3 checkmarks in There Is Nothing and 6 checkmarks (5 small 1 big) in A Life of Prizes though; could it be another replay-won't-work shenanigan? (seriously stop it!).

But honestly do we know for sure that those checkmarks really indicate Sensei's girl tally? Is it just because of different amifingered values potentially give different numbers of checkmark? or has someone with extreme talents managed to decipher the meaning of the poem next to it?

Also, assuming checkmarks really are girl tallies (make sense I mean), who are the default 3 checkmarks at the end of Ch1?
- If it only counts deflowering, then only Ayane fits
- If it counts as soon as things getting illicit, then Chika/Ayane/Makoto/Futaba/ (same result if you use naming event to sort)
- If it counts their first invite-over, then Chika/Makoto/
So yeah idk, don't see a coherent way to locate even those 3 checkmarks. But I am only using the pink events and the baby blue events to pinpoint, so if it's something in the main events then fuck me I can't track that

BTW, during Maya's Somewhere Inside of a Dream, it's a big X. If anyone remember which other events also has that corkboard present feel free to share!

well at the end of chapter 1... he also fucked maya, even if he/we dont know it yet
but i dont really think you can count that based on how the paper seems to be specific to the reset.
so it went 3 check marks, changed to an x, then went 6 check marks
x could be used to represent 0 or 10 depending on tally system you choose to follow, i'd take a guess at 0 because representing 10 is in the roman counting system that doesnt use checks
if true it implies it might be a resetting counting system, thus showing the first 3 check marks in 'there is nothing' is not the same 3 check marks in a 'life of prizes'. 3 things happened in chapter one, 0 things (or 10 if you want to do that) happened in chapter 2 between the start and mayas event, followed by 6 things happening in chapter 2 after that event.
we will probably see it again at the end of chapter 3

 

[DeSkel15]

we are literally going in circles everything you said in that post i have countered once already. and your rebuttal has been essentially no i'm right your are just wrong and maya lied with no evidence for it other than an moment that doesnt prove maya a liar because they never even finish talking about her reasons because noriko interrupts her. man i would have ended it, but you did this massive post that couldnt even be called a conclusion and moving on

I'm going to move on and end this now. There's no point to this.

 

[Bingoogus]

Cool it guys, you're both getting too heavily invested in what is little more than conjecture, you're walking too deeply into the fog and losing sight of the point of these discussions, we're all mostly throwing darts at a corkboard of ideas and faint patterns of connection between those ideas and it's not fun to treat it as anything more than a group of mates hanging out at a bar shooting the breeze. In following that metaphor, i think you've both had enough to drink and should get a glass of water and step outside for some air. Don't come back proclaiming anything about the other or yourself, just move on from it, if you feel the need to say anything about it, you haven't cooled off enough.

 

[BlackDays]

Could be wrong, but perhaps the 3 checks are Sekai, Maya, and Ayane. The number of girls Sensei had sex with in this timeline at that point. Ami could be the 4th optionally.

The poetry being by the checks, also makes me think that Spirit Sekai is the one keeping track. Not to mention, someone/something scribbled out Maya's note by the checks in the life of prizes event, and Sekai has shown to hate her. You also can hear a female voice in that event saying she loves Sensei and wants him to tell her he sees her, which I'm thinking was Spirit Sekai this whole time.

Also, apparently instead of 6 check marks in life of prizes, you can get 7:

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7th checkmark in that case is if you have amifingered flag = true.

 

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Whilst dicking around replaying stuff i found this, not really saying anything with it but i thought it was relevant to you guys digging up clues to things like who's been calling Sensei Akira, this scene would imply Ami never calls him Akira, though it's not proof, just implicated.

Also, when Uta does the flavorbeam, Tsuneyo's reaction is fucking hilarious.
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Also, Rin in the back.

I remembered in one of the earliest main events Akira questioned Ami about calling him Sensei even at home. Despite having her own seemingly legit reasoning , perhaps Ami really never used the name Akira once (tbh in retrospect this creeps me out a little bit). And I feel like this was brought up by someone other than Uta as well but I might be misremembering.

As for guessing who’s been calling him Akira the whole time before also deep diving into digging, Ayane might be possible because he was Akira to her before he was Sensei (but I am gonna go out on a limb and say Noriko might be the only one doing this; I remembered checking Niki’s events but it was mostly filled with that one-time nick name or just swearing )

The rest (especially the 2F girls) really don’t have a reason, heart, or a solid relationship base to go full first name base despite his own promoting or the fact that they start having sex
(like I think girls like Futaba and Makoto continuing calling him just Sensei tracks with their personalities; Chika is straight up oblivious)

 

[Deleted member 2223621]

I remembered in one of the earliest main events Akira questioned Ami about calling him Sensei even at home. Despite having her own seemingly legit reasoning , perhaps Ami really never used the name Akira once (tbh in retrospect this creeps me out a little bit). And I feel like this was brought up by someone other than Uta as well but I might be misremembering.

As for guessing who’s been calling him Akira the whole time before also deep diving into digging, Ayane might be possible because he was Akira to her before he was Sensei (but I am gonna go out on a limb and say Noriko might be the only one doing this; I remembered checking Niki’s events but it was mostly filled with that one-time nick name or just swearing )

The rest (especially the 2F girls) really don’t have a reason, heart, or a solid relationship base to go full first name base despite his own promoting or the fact that they start having sex
(like I think girls like Futaba and Makoto continuing calling him just Sensei tracks with their personalities; Chika is straight up oblivious)

maya called him 'redacted' in baby finches

lust names are all now akira for laughing purposes
what are you talking about so many girls call him akira

 

[fdsasdf_p]

Could be wrong, but perhaps the 3 checks are Sekai, Maya, and Ayane. The number of girls Sensei had sex with in this timeline at that point. Ami could be the 4th optionally.

The poetry being by the checks, also makes me think that Spirit Sekai is the one keeping track. Not to mention, someone/something scribbled out Maya's note by the checks in the life of prizes event, and Sekai has shown to hate her. You also can hear a female voice in that event saying she loves Sensei and wants him to tell her he sees her, which I'm thinking was Spirit Sekai this whole time.

Also, apparently instead of 6 check marks in life of prizes, you can get 7:

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Ok holy fuck I thought my math betrayed me and led me to miscounting, but no in replay it was in fact 6

Spoiler: I mean no big secret here but just for putting things in parallel

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And I didn't even factor in Sekai and Maya which in retrospect makes a whole lot of sense, good catch

well at the end of chapter 1... he also fucked maya, even if he/we dont know it yet
but i dont really think you can count that based on how the paper seems to be specific to the reset.
so it went 3 check marks, changed to an x, then went 6 check marks
x could be used to represent 0 or 10 depending on tally system you choose to follow, i'd take a guess at 0 because representing 10 is in the roman counting system that doesnt use checks
if true it implies it might be a resetting counting system, thus showing the first 3 check marks in 'there is nothing' is not the same 3 check marks in a 'life of prizes'. 3 things happened in chapter one, 0 things (or 10 if you want to do that) happened in chapter 2 between the start and mayas event, followed by 6 things happening in chapter 2 after that event.
we will probably see it again at the end of chapter 3

Doing the counting at the time was solely because I wasn't able to verify if checkmarks were really about sex counts with replay, until a 7 checkmarks slapped me in the face. I guess as long as fucking Ami really gives you an extra checkmark then I am fine with associating the rest of the checkmarks with a similar meaning; assigning which checkmark belongs to who is probably like you said prone to mistakes because of the underlying logics being unclear.

But hey now we know what's gonna look like by the end of Sensei's journey

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Ok holy fuck I thought my math betrayed me and led me to miscounting, but no in replay it was in fact 6

Spoiler: I mean no big secret here but just for putting things in parallel

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And I didn't even factor in Sekai and Maya which in retrospect makes a whole lot of sense, good catch



Doing the counting at the time was solely because I wasn't able to verify if checkmarks were really about sex counts with replay, until a 7 checkmarks slapped me in the face. I guess as long as fucking Ami really gives you an extra checkmark then I am fine with associating the rest of the checkmarks with a similar meaning; assigning which checkmark belongs to who is probably like you said prone to mistakes because of the underlying logics being unclear.

But hey now we know what's gonna look like by the end of Sensei's journey

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if we are going to say it is a first time sex tally, do the side characters count? because i thought haruka and sara were chapter 1 as well since 'the need to be hurt' was in chapter 1 and so was 'zero friction'
just looking at that you got ayane, haruka, and sara for full penetration
for chapter 2, you have chika, futaba, makoto, kirin, maki (yeah she was in the threesome scene in chapter one, but you didnt penetrate) , and ami. did i miss anyone?
the thing i cant be bothered to even try to check on because of the time required would be if all 6 of those 'first times' happened after 'Somewhere Inside of a Dream' which would indicate the X is a 0


on a side note, niki has never spoken to maya yet has she? I wwant to know if she recognizes her by her name i know she has seen her from the beach event 'we were angels' and maya stared her down in a hotel hallway while she kissed akira. but i dont think any interaction has taken place yet...

 

[ElukiaTV]

I have the feeling the new update is gonna be rich in Good and Bad uncle variables.. (just my theory).
Whats the puglin or app you guys use to switch between flags on the fly?

 

[fdsasdf_p]

if we are going to say it is a first time sex tally, do the side characters count? because i thought haruka and sara were chapter 1 as well since 'the need to be hurt' was in chapter 1 and so was 'zero friction'
just looking at that you got ayane, haruka, and sara for full penetration
for chapter 2, you have chika, futaba, makoto, kirin, maki (yeah she was in the threesome scene in chapter one, but you didnt penetrate) , and ami. did i miss anyone?
the thing i cant be bothered to even try to check on because of the time required would be if all 6 of those 'first times' happened after 'Somewhere Inside of a Dream' which would indicate the X is a 0

I am gonna assume side characters don't because they aren't first timers (but then this would rule Sekai out unless she fucked Akira before she fucked Nozomu...) and in the replay the number is already 3 (a result of setting all the sex flags to false), and no one is yet to report a checkmark numbers in There Is Nothing larger than 4; but other than this I don't have a more solid answer.
Supposedly one way to figure it out is start a new save and get to the reset events (or immediately prior), and use URM to manipulate parameters then and there to see how many variations you can get (but holy fuck the amount of work).

And just a minor correction, Makoto should be in Ch1 because her first-time event Wicked Witch of Kumon-mi is prior to There is Nothing (that's why I meant I gave up really counting because I probably fucked up at some point and it's too hard to get it right if some of the checkpoints hide in main events lol)

on a side note, niki has never spoken to maya yet has she? I wwant to know if she recognizes her by her name i know she has seen her from the beach event 'we were angels' and maya stared her down in a hotel hallway while she kissed akira. but i dont think any interaction has taken place yet...

Maya of course knows about Niki plentiful, but I don't think Niki knows Maya beyond "one of Sensei's students"; so unless during tutoring time Noriko came back home and mentioned Maya's name I don't the name "Maya" would ring any Niki's bell (plus even if Noriko did mention her name back then I don't see how this was worth remembering for Niki during those heart-wrenching time of hers). But all of these make the future interaction between the both of them all the more interesting indedd.

But I somehow feel like Niki would straight up calling Maya that little green bitch if she knows even a fraction of what is up (in comparison to Noriko the little pink bitch; jk I love both of them)

 

[Bingoogus]

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I have the feeling the new update is gonna be rich in Good and Bad uncle variables.. (just my theory).
Whats the puglin or app you guys use to switch between flags on the fly?

It's my signature cause i fucking love it so much i want to spread it far and wide, everyone should be using it, it's fucking ace.

 

[fdsasdf_p]

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I have the feeling the new update is gonna be rich in Good and Bad uncle variables.. (just my theory).
Whats the puglin or app you guys use to switch between flags on the fly?

I'm all in on seeing how Ami can be this type of crazy or that type of crazy! I am ready! (I am not)
though the snapshot here looks decently sweet...but we'll see (this probably is the follow up of her crouch crying on the sidewalk, phew at least that probably won't end badly)

And I use URM to switch flags or edit stats on the fly whenever applicable

 

[Bingoogus]

And I use URM to switch flags or edit stats on the fly whenever applicable

This is it's main use but what i think really makes the URM essential is it protects you from Selly's dickery, the flag check popping up before the next screen lets you review what's about to go down in a decent degree of detail and if you're unsure of the outcomes you can save safely before it drops and test it.

 

[wn502041]

請幫幫我
我不知道如何解決

 

[Kagitane]

Ami's events for this update sound really promising...

 

[barglenarglezous]

Ami's events for this update sound really promising...
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...Ami as a Sekai-driven sex zombie?

 

[k1n5l4y3r]

請幫幫我
我不知道如何解決

dirt
trid
User1 more like Loser1

 

[fdsasdf_p]

Ami's events for this update sound really promising...
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An Ami invite-over right after what happened to Noriko? Akira you McDoucheFuck. You better do some indoor discipline and not just have sex with the niece!

 

[DeSkel15]

An Ami invite-over right after what happened to Noriko? Akira you McDoucheFuck. You better do some indoor discipline and not just have sex with the niece!

I doubt Sensei could discipline Ami without proving there was someone in the closet (not that Ami doesn't know).

Maybe having Ami make dinner for him and a milf would be a punishment? Or perhaps have Maki explain to her the birds and the bees. That sounds like a punishment to me.

 

[DeSkel15]

Poor Noriko though, like beyond just getting traumatized, it had to bring back her childhood memories where she'd watch Sensei and her sister fool around from her sister's closet. Like a decade later, now she's watching Sensei and Ami from Sensei's closet. That's assuming she never watched Sensei and Maya from a closet at some point, since she is aware of the effed up relationship, I wonder how exactly she became aware.

The lore of Noriko watching others with her crush, in closets.

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