Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.53.0] [Selebus]

[Moonflare]

oooooh, I smell a new game in our hands! What is something that annoys you in not having been resolved yet? It doesn't have to be the most annoying thing in terms of the whole story, it could be something small, but what just annoys you personally?

Like you think to yourself "for how long are we gonna have to wait yet?" or "Man, this situation is just getting ridiculous..."

For me, it's the Chika thing - I thought it was bizarre from the first scene when she overreacted by Akira mentioning Niki, and it's been seasons of everyone accepting that he dated her, and yet here we are years later.

Spoiler: David Beckham's Large Banana

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Well, what's yours?

 

[Riolol]

oooooh, I smell a new game in our hands! What is something that annoys you in not having been resolved yet? It doesn't have to be the most annoying thing in terms of the whole story, it could be something small, but what just annoys you personally?

Like you think to yourself "for how long are we gonna have to wait yet?" or "Man, this situation is just getting ridiculous..."

For me, it's the Chika thing - I thought it was bizarre from the first scene when she overreacted by Akira mentioning Niki, and it's been seasons of everyone accepting that he dated her, and yet here we are years later.

Spoiler: David Beckham's Large Banana

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Well, what's yours?

Yumi, it's always one step forward two steps back with her.

 

[Yarazin]

She seems to always be on the verge of getting something done, and then it just evaporates. The finale to a whole bulimia arc is: "I'll start going to the gym!" poof, storyline dropped. Then we have: "I am so mad at Nodoka!" And following that the story misses a thousand opportunities for her to find stuff about Nodoka and do something about it, and she's already somewhat speaking to her.

Yeah I've ben disappointed that not much seems to have happened with that and the fact no one has found out the truth about the Yumi stuff. I want to think these things just haven't happened yet but I just feel they will not be dealt with. Really frustrating to have big drama events like that and then just minimal follow up.

Edit: Just read your other post. I think the Yumi/annoying girl stuff is what I want to come up again/blow up.

 

[barglenarglezous]

Well, what's yours?

When we sex the Yumi?

 

[LoveWhiteHairedGirl]

Well, what's yours?

Rin is still virgin.

 

[JelF547]

Rin is still virgin.

Doesn't lesbian sex count?

 

[LoveWhiteHairedGirl]

Doesn't lesbian sex count?

No. At least in my book

 

[Detective Dc345]

oooooh, I smell a new game in our hands! What is something that annoys you in not having been resolved yet? It doesn't have to be the most annoying thing in terms of the whole story, it could be something small, but what just annoys you personally?

Like you think to yourself "for how long are we gonna have to wait yet?" or "Man, this situation is just getting ridiculous..."

For me, it's the Chika thing - I thought it was bizarre from the first scene when she overreacted by Akira mentioning Niki, and it's been seasons of everyone accepting that he dated her, and yet here we are years later.

Spoiler: David Beckham's Large Banana

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Well, what's yours?

THIS....THIS RIGHT FUCKIN HERE! Chika skating around Akira's infidelity has gone on for too long. The perfect opportunity arose when she says "OTHER GIRLS HAVE BEEN SENDING YOU NUDES" but Chika's post-gyauru brain somehow manages to ignore it because PLOT.

 

[DeSkel15]

DeSkel likes Nodoka and we haven't risen against him yet.

"yet":

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oooooh, I smell a new game in our hands! What is something that annoys you in not having been resolved yet? It doesn't have to be the most annoying thing in terms of the whole story, it could be something small, but what just annoys you personally?

Well, what's yours?

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In actuality: Probably Yumi as a whole.

Spoiler: Controversial take probably for some reason

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[aramaug]

Spoiler: You & Me against the world

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I've been thinking some more about Ami's apparent mention of TERMINAL 24, and how the other things she says in the same event could be clues regarding what a TERMINAL is.

Spoiler: You & Me Against the World

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That analysis might feel pretty tenuous. So of course I'm now going to double down and use even flimsier evidence to speculate further.

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[Moonflare]

"If you are looking for a fight, you have come to the right place."

Unfortunately, I must now convert to the Nodoka train (so we're on the same team, at least during halloween):

Spoiler: Rindoka Nagahara

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[LoveWhiteHairedGirl]

I'm not even sure if Yumi will be remembered by anyone after Sensei fucks her, as whether "she got the dick yet" seems to be her main selling point to fans. I wouldn't be surprised if some are only playing to finally get to that point, then will lose interest. Might even be why it hasn't happened.

Erm... wtf? Yes, it would be so hot to see Yumi and, for example, Rin get finally impaled by a dick. But to think that's the only reason people are “fanatical” about them or play the game? Like, who the hell has the patience to keep playing a game only to see Yumi get banged by her teacher and then just quit the game?

 

[DeSkel15]

I've been thinking some more about Ami's apparent mention of TERMINAL 24, and how the other things she says in the same event could be clues regarding what a TERMINAL is.

Spoiler: You & Me Against the World

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That analysis might feel pretty tenuous. So of course I'm now going to double down and use even flimsier evidence to speculate further.

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Just a note, the bugs may be a reference to Sekai, her mother, who may have referred to everyone as Bugs:

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Ami had likely been reading Sekai's poetry for months if not years.

Although it could definitely be referring to bugs as in errors. Ami seems to at least think this world is supposed to be like a video game:

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Which may be why Ayane not being like the Ayane NPC she's used to, seemed to bother her:

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And why she seems to ignore things that don't make sense:

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(Lots of "suppose"s. As if she's aware of how things are "supposed to be".)

It'd be interesting if Ami thinks she's in some kind of sentient game world that won't end until Sensei knocks her up, and only then can things truly change.

Like she's some kind of NPC that guides the player at the start, before becoming a love interest, but has now gone insane because the game never ends, and only repeats.

Erm... wtf? Yes, it would be so hot to see Yumi and, for example, Rin get finally impaled by a dick. But to think that's the only reason people are “fanatical” about them or play the game? Like, who the hell has the patience to keep playing a game only to see Yumi get banged by her teacher and then just quit the game?

Obsessive people. There are people out there who have made thousands by selling their bathwater to fans they'll never meet or even acknowledge. Humanity is...very human, and nothing would surprise me.

Also, I said some may lose interest, not quit the game, but that's also a possibility.

 

[LoveWhiteHairedGirl]

There are people out there who have made thousands by selling their bathwater to fans they'll never meet or even acknowledge.

I bet Ami was selling Akira's c00mjars when he was in a vegetative state.

 

[DeSkel15]

I bet Ami was selling Akira's c00mjars when he was in a vegetative state.

Ami would be running Kumon-mi within a week, lmao.

Chika would be her first customer.

I'd definitely try a game, where the Ami parody just pimps out her uncle to her friends.

 

[Moonflare]

I'm not even sure if Yumi will be remembered by anyone after Sensei fucks her, as whether "she got the dick yet" seems to be her main selling point to fans. I wouldn't be surprised if some are only playing to finally get to that point, then will lose interest. Might even be why it hasn't happened.

I hope she gets something to make her and her story more interesting.

I think I both agree and disagree. Yumi's hot, and if I had to diagnose her appeal, it would boil down to boobs, tsundere, and "I can fix her" mixed with guilt. However, what is appealing about her to me is a girl that admits to being trash, slowly getting her life together while in contact with Akira (who assaulted her), and how their lives are forced to run in parallel sort of.

That's one thing, and what makes me keep getting back to her beyond that is the mystery. There is something going on there, and granted, maybe Selebus just chose to make the hot/problematic/tsundere girl the one that would get the big mystery of why the universe keeps forcing them together... But it's there regardless. I want to know what's up.

Erm... wtf? Yes, it would be so hot to see Yumi and, for example, Rin get finally impaled by a dick. But to think that's the only reason people are “fanatical” about them or play the game? Like, who the hell has the patience to keep playing a game only to see Yumi get banged by her teacher and then just quit the game?

I was going to answer something productive but I somehow lost myself in the mathematics of how many Rin events there are this year and her chances of finally having sex with Akira lol (and it's not looking good)

Edit: moved both answers to this post since it makes more topical sense.

 

[Algorist]

In actuality: Probably Yumi as a whole.

Spoiler: Controversial take probably for some reason

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Damn, you really dislike Yumi, don't you? Perhaps your fondness for Nodoka is one of the factors feeding this disdain? This isn't any protest, just curious (after all, this is purely a matter of personal preference.)

As for me, Yumi represents archetypes I deeply enjoy. Both behaviorally and physically. Tsunderes, "bad girls"/delinquents, moody, arguably potentially smart, yet lazy; unpretentious, candid, etc.

Pale, slim, long black hair, big breasts, slightly taller than average, natural look; athletic-ish.

Truly top-notch stuff.

I agree, however, that Yumi's plotline has room for improvement. Not because I think she's cliché, but rather due to some aspects not being explored as they should've been.

 

[aramaug]

oooooh, I smell a new game in our hands! What is something that annoys you in not having been resolved yet? It doesn't have to be the most annoying thing in terms of the whole story, it could be something small, but what just annoys you personally?

Like you think to yourself "for how long are we gonna have to wait yet?" or "Man, this situation is just getting ridiculous..."

For me, it's the Chika thing - I thought it was bizarre from the first scene when she overreacted by Akira mentioning Niki, and it's been seasons of everyone accepting that he dated her, and yet here we are years later.

Spoiler: David Beckham's Large Banana

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Well, what's yours?

For me it's the Nodoka book thing. As soon as it was introduced, I felt there was no way it couldn't have immediate and probably massive "real world" impact. Then nothing happened. Then Futaba found out, and I thought certainly NOW something has to happen. Then nothing happened. There are so many people whose lives stand on a knife's edge if just one wrong person finds out - like, what happens to Sensei if noted reader Wakana spots the book in a store, recognizes the author's surname, and flips through it? And yet no one seems to care except Futaba, and she hasn't done much more than make a frowny face. Hopefully it finally goes somewhere in this update with the Futaba events, but I'm not optimistic.

In contrast, I don't mind the Chika thing nearly as much as everyone else. To me, it makes a lot more sense than Nodoka's book from a character perspective; Chika keeps getting hints, but she never follows them up and finds out because she's scared of finding out. Though I imagine my patience is also helped by the fact that I haven't been sitting around waiting for updates in "real time" yet.

In actuality: Probably Yumi as a whole.

Spoiler: Controversial take probably for some reason

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Interestingly, Yumi is one of my favorite characters, and for reasons that have very little to do with how much I want to see her get a good dicking. I can agree that her backstory and the delinquent tsundere persona aren't very interesting, but I think she has actual depth of character beyond that. For one thing, she might be the only member of the main cast that has any sort of inner conflict over her feelings towards Sensei that lasts longer than two seconds. Yeah, she obviously has a crush on him, but it feels like she really wished she didn't a lot of the time. She can get seriously skeeved out by him and feels a lot of guilt due to her loyalty to Chika (and knowing that he's "cheating" on her), even without acting on her feelings. She tries to grapple with what she knows about his dark side, whereas every character that knows more than her either has unconditional love toward him or is sociopath with an extremely punchable face (not to name names).

I also enjoy the effect she has on Sensei. Because he knows about the complexity of her feelings (and her connection to his blackouts) he tends to get more introspective around her and even sometimes allows himself to be vulnerable.

I started trying to order the main characters by how cliche I find them and it took me a while to get to Yumi. For me, Molly, Miku, Ayane, Touka, and Rin are all definitely more cliche (I forgive Rin and Molly because they're funny). Otoha is only not more cliche because she is somehow still a complete non-character. Sana would have been on the list until recent developments. And while they're not cliche per se, Uta and Noriko still feel more one-dimensional.

Edit: typos/grammar

 

[DeSkel15]

Damn, you really dislike Yumi, don't you? Perhaps your fondness for Nodoka is one of the factors feeding this disdain? This isn't any protest, just curious (after all, this is purely a matter of personal preference.)

As for me, Yumi represents archetypes I deeply enjoy. Both behaviorally and physically. Tsunderes, "bad girls"/delinquents, moody, arguably potentially smart, yet lazy; unpretentious, candid, etc.

Pale, slim, long black hair, big breasts, slightly taller than average, natural look; athletic-ish.

Truly top-notch stuff.

I agree, however, that Yumi's plotline has room for improvement. Not because I think she's cliché, but rather due to some aspects not being explored as they should've been.

It's less disliking her and more being exhausted by her. I find Yumi cliché and basically everything you just mentioned about her is a reason why, lmao. Different strokes for different folks I suppose.

And no, Nodoka has basically nothing to do with this. If anything, she made Yumi more interesting.

I actually find Nodoka kind of annoying for reasons I doubt most would understand. She is like top 10 for me, though.

 

[Leoxsama]

Just a note, the bugs may be a reference to Sekai, her mother, who may have referred to everyone as Bugs:

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Ami had likely been reading Sekai's poetry for months if not years.

Although it could definitely be referring to bugs as in errors. Ami seems to at least think this world is supposed to be like a video game:

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Which may be why Ayane not being like the Ayane NPC she's used to, seemed to bother her:

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And why she seems to ignore things that don't make sense:

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(Lots of "suppose"s. As if she's aware of how things are "supposed to be".)

It'd be interesting if Ami thinks she's in some kind of sentient game world that won't end until Sensei knocks her up, and only then can things truly change.

Like she's some kind of NPC that guides the player at the start, before becoming a love interest, but has now gone insane because the game never ends, and only repeats.

Obsessive people. There are people out there who have made thousands by selling their bathwater to fans they'll never meet or even acknowledge. Humanity is...very human, and nothing would surprise me.

Also, I said some may lose interest, not quit the game, but that's also a possibility.

Io being a computer bug would actually make sense in a way because who the fuck names there kid "Io." Sound's like a piece of code in a program or something.