Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.53.0] [Selebus]

[PhiloPhilo]

I think all of the adults really should know things already, and at the very least are displaying willful ignorance with regards to Akira's behavior.

• Tsubasa and Haruka straight up know a lot of what he's doing or has done.
• Osako knows he's fucking Ayane.
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• Osako has basically said as much in front of Wakana (while also on a "double date" with Sensei and Maya), and Wakana has heard rumors about half of the class.
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• In front of Maki, Akira has repeatedly demonstrated his attraction to teenage girls and shown that he thinks about Makoto sexually. She'd have to be the most oblivious person on the face of the earth to not suspect him when she realizes Makoto is having sex. I had some screenshots on this in my Chapter 1 round-up, here's a few more from Chapter 2 so far:
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• Imani sees him interact daily with several teenage girls (not known for subtlety or discretion) that he's boning.
• Rika lives in the dorms that he visits late at night and has repeated sexual encounters in.
• Niki is aware of aspects of Sensei's relations with his students, but is unwilling to think about them
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• From their first acquaintance, Yuki is convinced that he's fucking Yumi.
• Sara might have the most excuse for not knowing, but she's at least seen him flirt with his students in her bar. Edit: and was present when Ayane called him by her lust name.

Unless you're willing to suspend your disbelief to a really extreme level, it's easiest to just assume that he has some sort of supernatural protection, either preventing people from reaching obvious conclusions or making them think that what he's doing is acceptable.

There's definitely some less than realistic plot magic going on. Oddly enough, and this may be a weird take, I think Yuki might have the worst reaction. Or the best, it's kind of hard to say. I just feel like there's some dissonance between her being weirded out by his relationships and suspecting something weird, but not actually believing he's gone all the way with it, more-so just fucking around and being a weirdo. She's the most willing to tell someone they're fucked up and to choke a bitch, and I feel like she'd have pushed much harder if she actually thought he was fucking Yumi and others deep down, and wasn't just kind of a creep. (I could be wrong or forgetting scenes that contradict this.) Her past and attitude towards bad decisions like that lead me to the think she'd be the most angry, at least.
Either that or she'd be like "Fuck, man, I didn't think you were actually putting it in highschoolers." And that'd basically be it, you can never really be too sure.
Edit: I can't type good

 

[GSwole]

It restored my faith in humanity that nobody here reacted well to the Io thing. Well at the very least if anyone actually enjoyed that scene they knew well enough to keep it to themselves. That stare still turns my stomach, the scene is well named I'll give Selly that.

I loved watching Io finally get it however awful it was. The bed creaking was awkward but it made the scene that much better.

 

[Comiies]

I mean, I sure hope so because she deserves way more than pity oral triggered by tragic backstory. In fact, I think Akira could learn a lot from someone that has that backstory and manages to become the Imani of today.

She didn't have anything going for her other than "I want to have sex with Akira", but given his reaction to her latest events, I think it's likely Akira intends to learn from her (he says something about learning to carry light or something like that).

I just hope it isn't a date to the amusement park or to watch sea turtles (that's for my girl Yumi, don't you dare, Selebus). I'm fine with anything other than that.

Maybe it's tickets to visit the new "low-income apartment complex" she plans to move into (can you imagine lol).

And the amusement park is for my best girl tsuneyo and hopefully for Io

 

[JelF547]

Amusement park for Io, but amusement is sex

 

[brknsoul]

How do I trigger Rin's Sex Dreams and Haruka's Limp-Dick Loser?

 

[Igor Ojegov]

Can someone explain what to do when the world is collapsing?

 

[Comiies]

How do I trigger Rin's Sex Dreams and Haruka's Limp-Dick Loser?

>Use URM
>Set affe/lust to 100
>Profit

 

[brknsoul]

>Use URM
>Set affe/lust to 100
>Profit

No, I meant the actual triggers, day, time, place? I already have a mod for increasing love/lust.

 

[PhiloPhilo]

No, I meant the actual triggers, day, time, place? I already have a mod for increasing love/lust.

Koi cafe, morning, IIRC. Don't know if it's a specific day, might just be weekend or something

 

[Bingoogus]

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[rightsaidfred]

I didn't have a "Bad uncle" save, so i used one i found on the forums... not wanting to play all the way back through "Selebus's self-loathing simulator"... Anywho, this save is "soap-locked" .. what value do i need to URM out, so i can bypass this petty bullshit?

{EDIT} for the next poor bastard that has to waste time for sillyness
shampooescape - false

 

[LessonsInDissonance]

Putting all of Io's stuff aside.

Haven't we got Confirmation that what happened to Maya Prime is the same that happened to Akira, and that she is definitely Alive and that her memories can be brought back too?

Does that mean that Akira Prime is trapped somewhere too?
Does that mean that Nao-Chan can take us there too?


I also recently noticed a thing that reinforces my "Akira has holy sperm" theory which would be why the Users and other deities brainwash girls into loving Akira

this is on Niki's 2nd photo event

 

[Moonflare]

There's definitely some less than realistic plot magic going on. Oddly enough, and this may be a weird take, I think Yuki might have the worst reaction. Or the best, it's kind of hard to say. I just feel like there's some dissonance between her being weirded out by his relationships and suspecting something weird, but not actually believing he's gone all the way with it, more-so just fucking around and being a weirdo. She's the most willing to tell someone they're fucked up and to choke a bitch, and I feel like she'd have pushed much harder if she actually thought he was fucking Yumi and others deep down, and wasn't just kind of a creep. (I could be wrong or forgetting scenes that contradict this.) Her past and attitude towards bad decisions like that lead me to the think she'd be the most angry, at least.
Either that or she'd be like "Fuck, man, I didn't think you were actually putting it in highschoolers." And that'd basically be it, you can never really be too sure.
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I think Yuki is one of the most grounded people in the plot. She doesn't judge because she fully recognizes that she has no right to. The things you're referring to are very specific in the sense that:

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Basically, Yuki hasn't got that much time left. Between battling with addiction and trying to have some relationship with her daughter, she won't be interfering with anything unless strictly necessary. Most importantly, her view of what is harmful to these girls is very particular because it borrows from what she went through at their age. Akira's treatment of them should look pretty good in comparison, almost "normal" actually. Edit: As an example, the idea of Akira actively trying to help Yumi find a job and not asking for sex in return baffles her. That's the sort of notion Yuki sees the world from.

 

[Moonflare]

Putting all of Io's stuff aside.

Haven't we got Confirmation that what happened to Maya Prime is the same that happened to Akira, and that she is definitely Alive and that her memories can be brought back too?

Does that mean that Akira Prime is trapped somewhere too?
Does that mean that Nao-Chan can take us there too?


I also recently noticed a thing that reinforces my "Akira has holy sperm" theory which would be why the Users and other deities brainwash girls into loving Akira View attachment 3811504

this is on Niki's 2nd photo event

It looks like Maya Prime is trapped at her replica of heaven, yes. And in that sense, she could be brought back. However, if the narrator for that event is herself, she is both confirmed as a narrator (which could mean that her "restoration" is becoming an observer instead, and narrating the game same as Himawari), and confirmed to be shrinking (which could mean a lot of things, most troubling being that we have a time-limit to recover her from there).

Lastly, the question remains as to who is keeping her there. Pareidolia had no intention of saving her, so probably not him. That Nao-chan led Noriko there would point to USER4, but AmIOkay says that Noriko shouldn't be there, so it could be that USER4 had Nao-chan lead Noriko to another god's domain instead. Unclear for now.

 

[PhiloPhilo]

I think Yuki is one of the most grounded people in the plot. She doesn't judge because she fully recognizes that she has no right to. The things you're referring to are very specific in the sense that:

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Basically, Yuki hasn't got that much time left. Between battling with addiction and trying to have some relationship with her daughter, she won't be interfering with anything unless strictly necessary. Most importantly, her view of what is harmful to these girls is very particular because it borrows from what she went through at their age. Akira's treatment of them should look pretty good in comparison, almost "normal" actually. Edit: As an example, the idea of Akira actively trying to help Yumi find a job and not asking for sex in return baffles her. That's the sort of notion Yuki sees the world from.

I'm really split on it, honestly, and it's hard to put down why. I can't really argue with anything you brought up, though. Only thing I'd say is if you mean the

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event, I think she'd intervene there, too, at least with how clearly batshit both were acting. It just seems like there's one side of her that would look at it unfavorably specifically because she knows better now and has (mostly?) distanced herself from the Yakuza, and her old accomplices and way of life. She's still not a perfect person, and can't kick cigarettes and alcohol, but she's tried to generally be 'better' in a sort of 'good enough' way. No hurting people, living honestly, kicking the funky chalk/needle habit, and as a compliment to her character (holy fuck, Yakuza mommy) she's done pretty well. That makes me question if he'd said "Yeah I had sex with her" instead of kissed her, what she'd say. But on the other hand, her overall attitude is nonchalance and that "I've seen worse" sentiment like you mentioned. I'd really like to know, although that might mean another awkward scene with her walking in on something blasphemous.
Also, I did completely forget that he told her about that. I thought most recently her reservations were because of Sara though? Of the top of my head I can only recall Yuki being okay with him, like, hanging out with the girls way too much and whatnot. Anyway, if you keep handing me Ls I'm gonna ask for a punch card or something.

 

[Moonflare]

I'm really split on it, honestly, and it's hard to put down why. I can't really argue with anything you brought up, though. Only thing I'd say is if you mean the

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event, I think she'd intervene there, too, at least with how clearly batshit both were acting. It just seems like there's one side of her that would look at it unfavorably specifically because she knows better now and has (mostly?) distanced herself from the Yakuza, and her old accomplices and way of life. She's still not a perfect person, and can't kick cigarettes and alcohol, but she's tried to generally be 'better' in a sort of 'good enough' way. No hurting people, living honestly, kicking the funky chalk/needle habit, and as a compliment to her character (holy fuck, Yakuza mommy) she's done pretty well. That makes me question if he'd said "Yeah I had sex with her" instead of kissed her, what she'd say. But on the other hand, her overall attitude is nonchalance and that "I've seen worse" sentiment like you mentioned. I'd really like to know, although that might mean another awkward scene with her walking in on something blasphemous.
Also, I did completely forget that he told her about that. I thought most recently her reservations were because of Sara though? Of the top of my head I can only recall Yuki being okay with him, like, hanging out with the girls way too much and whatnot. Anyway, if you keep handing me Ls I'm gonna ask for a punch card or something.

Nonsense, man, we're all just talking lol People keep reminding me of things I missed all the time too.

Regarding Io, no, I mean that Yuki probably wouldn't go after Akira or something following "stomachache". Of course she'd interfere if she was there at the moment, or if she got the wrong idea about it, I think anyone probably would since seeing it from the outside it would very much look like it was forced.

Also, I wonder if it's more likely for Akira to have sex with Yuki or Yumi first. Probably Yuki? Can you imagine how the conversation will go when Yumi has been cucked by her mom? yeah, both seem very unlikely to be honest. I'd settle for all three of them going to see turtles, I think that'd be a hell of a win for Akira to put together.

 

[Fire Lord Zuko]

I'd settle for all three of them going to see turtles, I think that'd be a hell of a win for Akira to put together.

Hell, why not bring the whole family? Kaori would enjoy tagging along for that too. One of her picture messages is quite literally that of a turtle and her spitting facts about them.

If we can’t get the Akira/Yumi solo trip to see the sea turtles, then a trip with the whole Yamaguchi family is the next best thing. It’d be entertaining seeing all the interactions.

 

[PhiloPhilo]

Nonsense, man, we're all just talking lol People keep reminding me of things I missed all the time too.

Regarding Io, no, I mean that Yuki probably wouldn't go after Akira or something following "stomachache". Of course she'd interfere if she was there at the moment, or if she got the wrong idea about it, I think anyone probably would since seeing it from the outside it would very much look like it was forced.

Also, I wonder if it's more likely for Akira to have sex with Yuki or Yumi first. Probably Yuki? Can you imagine how the conversation will go when Yumi has been cucked by her mom? yeah, both seem very unlikely to be honest. I'd settle for all three of them going to see turtles, I think that'd be a hell of a win for Akira to put together.

True that brother. Mentioning destroy was probably dumb too, that event was a bit overboard. To be fair I didn't fully read it though, I checked it out of curiosity and then hit skip. The Sara walk-in scene was uncomfortable enough.

You know, the more I think about it, the more I think it depends which girl it is. Oddly enough, Yumi might be one she's fine with. Probably because she can "handle herself." But someone more ditzy, less mature, or less 'ready' might be a no-go. Something like, Tsukioka as the best example on the side "okay," and Yasu at the other end of the spectrum of "definitely not okay." And I think she'd be upset with other things, like if she knew that Chika thought they were exclusive and in a pretty serious relationship, rightfully so. But a rich girl that basically acts like an adult might get an "I probably would, too."

I'd agree that Yuki first is more likely. Personally, I'm rooting for Yuki to get her Yamaguchi spread first. Yuki is hot as fuck. And Yumi finding out that Akira banged her mom would be top 3 scenes in LiL.

I definitely want more wholesome scenes and Yuki scenes, getting a 'family' trip to the aquarium or something would be nice. One must imagine the VN reader happy...

 

[fdsasdf_p]

Haven't we got Confirmation that what happened to Maya Prime is the same that happened to Akira, and that she is definitely Alive and that her memories can be brought back too?

Does that mean that Akira Prime is trapped somewhere too?
Does that mean that Nao-Chan can take us there too?

Honestly, no. If this is about Noriko's pep talk then I want to point out that what happened to Sensei isn't exactly the same as what happened to Maya Prime.

What memories Sensei has been recovering slowly are fragments from the past prior to resets. Meanwhile, what defines Maya Prime is her accumulative experiences in the loops and her resulting attitude toward life; these are not the same. What would be a closer equivalent is current Sensei recovering "previous Senseis' memories", or Ayane recovering her “very first visit to the roof as a pregnant lady”. Thus, there is no Akira Prime or, technically, this current Sensei IS Akira Prime.

Of course, it makes narrative sense to have Maya Prime still linger somewhere that enables the possibility of bringing her back (and I demand it damnit!), but for now we can only indulge ourselves with optimism when going over whatever Transpacific Sadness Symposium might insinuate, as the nature of brining Maya Prime back is completely unprecedent.

Lastly, the question remains as to who is keeping her there. Pareidolia had no intention of saving her, so probably not him. That Nao-chan led Noriko there would point to USER4, but AmIOkay says that Noriko shouldn't be there, so it could be that USER4 had Nao-chan lead Noriko to another god's domain instead. Unclear for now.

My money is on HOPE/USER1 for a few reasons.
- In terms of gods, this replica of Heaven is seen occupied only by HOPE in the past events
- amiokay's screen time (along with the rest of the paranormal Maya clones) with any god is exclusively with HOPE iirc
- the deadline Sensei failed to meet back in Ch3 was from HOPE, so I am assuming it's also HOPE who bestowed the consequence and took Maya Prime away (I have to go over again what Pareidolia said immediately after Maya Prime got reset; currently I don't remember whether Pareidolia claimed that Maya Prime's death was exactly his doing, or he was just mocking Sensei's loss due to his inaction and complacency)

 

[Comiies]

So because my theories lately have been going around in circles i decided to watch some of the happy events and whatnot and i reached the event where we escape from our room.I wonder.Why was Sanna the one to come to us and not someone like Ami,ayane Niki noriko or Maya.Like Ami would KILL for us(she has in past cycles).Its truly curious.And Sensei talked to sana about this dream of his and it was kinda glossed over BUT i hope that it will be further developed in the future.Anyways my question is this.Why do you guys think was the reason why it was Sana that visited us?