Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.53.0] [Selebus]

[hernestojavier621]

A new Bo Burnham reference!

I'll say, that song (That Funny Feeling) can be summarized in its line of "the quiet comprehension of the ending of it all", I doubt it relates to Akira rn but perhaps Niki, with the name "Broken Furniture" to me says that maybe she will find something out.

 

[LessonsInDissonance]

It's okay, everyone here is a boomer. We can't all be teenagers who still actually enjoy life and get phat dubs on the fortnite ig {le shrug} /srs /pol

Having been here for a while, I'm starting to think I might be one of the youngest and I am very concerned that this is the case

 

[Moonflare]

I am very concerned that this is the case

Careful lest you slip character. I think you're supposed to be calm.

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[OIUEFIU]

Having been here for a while, I'm starting to think I might be one of the youngest and I am very concerned that this is the case

Same, although I dont care what anyone plays, I just cant imagine any older person playing game like this. Anime looking stuff in general is here consumed mostly only by the younger people.

 

[Pedro4545454]

Having been here for a while, I'm starting to think I might be one of the youngest and I am very concerned that this is the case

I'm actually 99% sure that I'm the youngest here and that worries me too hahaha.....

 

[Detective Dc345]

The whole Nozomou impregnation spree theory doesn't really add up. The only person that Nozomu could pheasbily be the father of is Nodoka. She has the Arakawa brown hair and the red, crimson, burgundy eyes of whatever Sekai's maiden name is. Nodoka's mother could be Sekai's sister or relative. And Nozomou could've knocked up Sekai's presumed sister and then ran off with Sekai. There's no timeline as to when Nodoka's mother got sick but Nozomou could've ditched Nodoka's mother after she got sick and got with Sekai and had Ami.

 

[DeSkel15]

Having been here for a while, I'm starting to think I might be one of the youngest and I am very concerned that this is the case

Kind of random, but I do think it's interesting to see different viewpoints on the game no matter one's age.

For me, Sensei is quite old, which definitely makes him more creepy in my eyes. I can't even imagine being 30, let alone being a 31 year old messing around with teens or...wizards.

Frankly, even someone that's Kaori's age getting with Sensei seems a little odd to me.

Meanwhile, I know others immerse themselves in Sensei, which brings out interesting PoVs. Those who don't, also bring out interesting PoVs. There's value to be found here, no matter the age of the player, imo.

 

[Moonflare]

The whole Nozomou impregnation spree theory doesn't really add up. The only person that Nozomu could pheasbily be the father of is Nodoka. She has the Arakawa brown hair and the red, crimson, burgundy eyes of whatever Sekai's maiden name is. Nodoka's mother could be Sekai's sister or relative. And Nozomou could've knocked up Sekai's presumed sister and then ran off with Sekai. There's no timeline as to when Nodoka's mother got sick but Nozomou could've ditched Nodoka's mother after she got sick and got with Sekai and had Ami.

I don't like the theory, but Nozomu could have been going around fucking other girls.

Spoiler: my thoughts

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However, game's already complicated enough as it is, I highly doubt Nozomu being the father of anyone other than Ami will prove true (not even her).

 

[LessonsInDissonance]

Careful lest you slip character. I think you're supposed to be calm.

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really?

Do not mock me or I will attack you, these hands have been the cause of death to many and one more won't make a difference.

 

[LessonsInDissonance]

Kind of random, but I do think it's interesting to see different viewpoints on the game no matter one's age.

For me, Sensei is quite old, which definitely makes him more creepy in my eyes. I can't even imagine being 30, let alone being a 31 year old messing around with teens or...wizards.

Frankly, even someone that's Kaori's age getting with Sensei seems a little odd to me.

Meanwhile, I know others immerse themselves in Sensei, which brings out interesting PoVs. Those who don't, also bring out interesting PoVs. There's value to be found here, no matter the age of the player, imo.

I'm not even gonna be Akira's age by the time this game ends in 6 years, I'm not sure if it's gonna be weird for me to play this when I get there.
Is it hipocritical to beat it to teen girls if they are a videogame?

When it comes to Kaori I don't think there's anything wrong, past 20 years of age I feel like it doesn't really matter, my first woman was when I was 18 and she was mature, never felt like it was wrong

 

[Moonflare]

Kind of random, but I do think it's interesting to see different viewpoints on the game no matter one's age.

For me, Sensei is quite old, which definitely makes him more creepy in my eyes. I can't even imagine being 30, let alone being a 31 year old messing around with teens or...wizards.

Frankly, even someone that's Kaori's age getting with Sensei seems a little odd to me.

Meanwhile, I know others immerse themselves in Sensei, which brings out interesting PoVs. Those who don't, also bring out interesting PoVs. There's value to be found here, no matter the age of the player, imo.

I agree that it's interesting to have many differently aged viewpoints. And I think it's rather important for Akira to be at least 30 in this story because, although still illegal, if he was, say, 22 (sort of Imani's age) - I feel like he'd be closer to a gray area age-wise. No disrespect to early twenties folk, but sometimes when you talk with certain 20 year olds there's barely a difference than when talking to a 16 year old.

Obviously the teacher-student thing is simply a no-no, but if Akira was 22 and he went out with a 16 year old it'd be different than what it is. Cause I can hardly imagine how a 30 year old would go out with a 15 year old when even having a conversation with one can be hard at times (but I can imagine a 22 year old doing it though). Tbh, regardless, I don't even think the sex would make much sense cause they simply wouldn't be there mentally... Even Imani and Kaori would already be stretching it as dateable in my eyes (age-wise).

Spoiler: Fruits of torment

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Also important to note that none of this would apply anyway because, as Yumi points out, Akira isn't dating a student - there's no gray area (other than the supernatural one): he's dating 20 different people and is basically one step away from a sex cult.

 

[LessonsInDissonance]

I agree that it's interesting to have many differently aged viewpoints. And I think it's rather important for Akira to be at least 30 in this story because, although still illegal, if he was, say, 22 (sort of Imani's age) - I feel like he'd be closer to a gray area age-wise. No disrespect to early twenties folk, but sometimes when you talk with certain 20 year olds there's barely a difference than when talking to a 16 year old.

Obviously the teacher-student thing is simply a no-no, but if Akira was 22 and he went out with a 16 year old it'd be different than what it is. Cause I can hardly imagine how a 30 year old would go out with a 15 year old when even having a conversation with one can be hard at times (but I can imagine a 22 year old doing it though). Tbh, regardless, I don't even think the sex would make much sense cause they'd simply wouldn't be there mentally... Even Imani and Kaori would already be stretching it as dateable in my eyes (age-wise).

Also important to note that none of this would apply anyway because, as Yumi points out, Akira isn't dating a student - there's no gray area (other than the supernatural one): he's dating 20 different people and is basically one step away from a sex cult.

Is it wrong that I kind of agree with this? The legal age of consent is made to protect minors, but it's not like everybody magically matures the second they turn 18
There's people who even at 20 years old aren't ready and should not get married, and there's people who are ready before they turn 18.
If it was up to me I would change the age of consent so that it was based on brackets and not a singular age.
As a matter of fact, I would raise the global age of consent from 18 to 20. (you are free to do anything)
When you turn 18 you can go as high as 24
When you turn 16 you can go as high as 20.
And probably leave it there.


EDIT: I just realized that under my proposition, the lady that I was intimate with for the first time would be in trouble.
Forget what I said

 

[Moonflare]

EDIT: I just realized that under my proposition, the lady that I was intimate with for the first time would be in trouble.

I guess it depends on the country, but iirc there can be a difference between a certain age in which nothing can be had between people (a child), and an age in which something constitutes a crime if there is a report (done by either the victim or their family/legal guardians), which would apply to late teens. Could be wrong about this though.

 

[barglenarglezous]

Reading back through, I see discussion about Nozomu being Akira's brother? But I can't find messages discussing evidence on that. (I'd like to see more).
Regardless, at the very least, I think Rin is Sekai's with a considerable lack of info.

It's well established that Ami's (presumed) father is Akira's brother.

When you go to visit Sekai's grave, the headstone reads "Nozomu and Sekai Arakawa"

So it's not implied or hidden. It's laid out right in front of you multiple times throughout the game.

 

[Moonflare]

Assuming that Rin's mother is one of the currently known characters, I don't know how you'd explain her pink eyes. Perhaps those come from the father.

I also wonder whether Kaori's eyes are heterochromatic from birth or if that's a result of her surgery.

And is Sensei's eye color actually black? Do we know what the "true" color is?

1. Rika is Rin's adoptive mother, same as the other mom. So her eyes could come from either unnamed father or mother. I don't see how one of the known characters would be her biological mom.

2. Kaori's eyes seem to have always been that way because both Yumi and Yuki have known her since childhood and none of them comment on her having new eyes, or something to that effect.

3. Akira's eye color is silver, that's what other characters see when they compliment his eyes (presumably, since none have commented on his "bluejay/wishing well" eyes).

Spoiler: Spotless Mind

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[DeSkel15]

Hm, besides Sensei (Akira), and Nozomu, there is one other and presumably the only other Arakawa male: Their father, who may be Yuu, and the prequel's Main Character.

We don't know much about him, but we do have Pareidolia implying that Sensei may end up like him:

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Based off the themes of cycles, fucking teens, etc, it's not exactly impossible that Sensei is merely Yuu 2.0.

Possibly fucking his own sisters if his father was the one who seduced and knocked up Sara, Chiaki, Kyoko, and Rin's mother, to keep the cycle going, before he was eventually replaced by his children, which is what Nao seems to imply will be Sensei's fate.

To have his offspring carry him away:

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I agree that it's interesting to have many differently aged viewpoints. And I think it's rather important for Akira to be at least 30 in this story because, although still illegal, if he was, say, 22 (sort of Imani's age) - I feel like he'd be closer to a gray area age-wise. No disrespect to early twenties folk, but sometimes when you talk with certain 20 year olds there's barely a difference than when talking to a 16 year old.

Obviously the teacher-student thing is simply a no-no, but if Akira was 22 and he went out with a 16 year old it'd be different than what it is. Cause I can hardly imagine how a 30 year old would go out with a 15 year old when even having a conversation with one can be hard at times (but I can imagine a 22 year old doing it though). Tbh, regardless, I don't even think the sex would make much sense cause they simply wouldn't be there mentally... Even Imani and Kaori would already be stretching it as dateable in my eyes (age-wise).

Spoiler: Fruits of torment

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Also important to note that none of this would apply anyway because, as Yumi points out, Akira isn't dating a student - there's no gray area (other than the supernatural one): he's dating 20 different people and is basically one step away from a sex cult.

Spoiler: Viewpoint

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[Moonflare]

For me, Sensei is quite old, [...] I can't even imagine being 30 [...]

We old folk reading this:

Spoiler: meanwhile, at the bottom of the wishing well

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[Pedro4545454]

Kind of random, but I do think it's interesting to see different viewpoints on the game no matter one's age.

For me, Sensei is quite old, which definitely makes him more creepy in my eyes. I can't even imagine being 30, let alone being a 31 year old messing around with teens or...wizards.

It's quite interesting to see this difference in point of view, I spent a long part of my childhood and adolescence around adults, like adults even between 30 and 50 years old who weren't members of my family, and I had never realized how bizarre or scary this could seem to other people who always saw a child/adolescent with an adult and never people of similar age to him, so only nowadays can I understand how strange this can seem to other people, but I have I'm 99% sure that because I've been used to adults being close to me since childhood, I don't see it in the same scary tone that most people do because I'm already used to it.

 

[12345431]

It's well established that Ami's (presumed) father is Akira's brother.

When you go to visit Sekai's grave, the headstone reads "Nozomu and Sekai Arakawa"

I wasn't questioning that Ami's (presumed) father is Akira's brother. Just that Nozomu is Akira's brother, and I'd never read the gravestone. It wasn't until Sekai started bleeding through the world (Akira's mind) that I even learned her name.

I really should have expected that in a game where people pop in and out of being dead that the dead could come back(?), so I didn't see a reason to read it. I should have, obviously.

 

[Bingoogus]

DrDisrespect

Literal "who?"... just call her a pedo dude, no need to be 'extra' and throw random references in, but if you absolutely must, just add a note as to wtf the reference even is.

Kind of random, but I do think it's interesting to see different viewpoints on the game no matter one's age.

For me, Sensei is quite old, which definitely makes him more creepy in my eyes. I can't even imagine being 30, let alone being a 31 year old messing around with teens or...wizards.

Frankly, even someone that's Kaori's age getting with Sensei seems a little odd to me.

Meanwhile, I know others immerse themselves in Sensei, which brings out interesting PoVs. Those who don't, also bring out interesting PoVs. There's value to be found here, no matter the age of the player, imo.

Omg, how young are you man... is... is the 15 in your name your birth year? Are you 8 or 9 years old?...